EPTyou need to either point out something i missed (not make up reasoning i can't verify) or convince me someone else is scummier than you, cause i don't think this argument is getting you anywhere
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rsoultin
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you need to either point out something i missed (not make up reasoning i can't verify) or convince me someone else is scummier than you, cause i don't think this argument is getting you anywhere | ||
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Half the Sky
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On April 13 2015 11:12 rsoultin wrote: like i'm gonna be frank with you here, hts...unless i'm just completely missing something, your behavior at EoD is basically indefensible. if stutters is town, you may very well have scum-slipped saying you voted an unflipped townie you need to either point out something i missed (not make up reasoning i can't verify) or convince me someone else is scummier than you, cause i don't think this argument is getting you anywhere Eh, I'm not really making anything up. If you are mafia deliberately choosing not to understand it, it wouldn't surprise me if you were but if you're town not getting what I'm trying to say, it wouldn't surprise me either. Not the first time this has happened. | ||
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On April 13 2015 11:15 Half the Sky wrote: Eh, I'm not really making anything up. If you are mafia deliberately choosing not to understand it, it wouldn't surprise me if you were but if you're town not getting what I'm trying to say, it wouldn't surprise me either. Not the first time this has happened. >< lol it has nothing to do with not getting your explanation for EoD. it's 1. your explanation doesn't make sense if you had any expectation whatsoever of getting stutters lynched over plotspot, especially when you weren't trying to get anyone to switch with you in any meaningful way 2. you telling me reasoning after the fact that isn't in any of your posts, even if it did make sense from a townie perspective (though I'd be much more open to it, then) is a matter of whether or not i believe you're telling the truth, not a matter of whether or not i understand what you're saying | ||
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On April 11 2015 19:17 Tubesock wrote: I've read Plot's filter, and I don't think he looks that great. My problem with him though is that there are at least three posts where I feel I need a rosetta stone. I have no idea what he's saying. The stuff I did understand, I don't remember having any eureka moment, or a sharing a brain type moment either. So far he hasn't been useful to me at all. That's not towny. I haven't invested any energy in him though. Sorry this isn't very helpful for you. On April 11 2015 19:35 Tubesock wrote: These reek of covering his ass as mafia. It's pretty waffly. I think it's different than how Breshke waffled on Dwarf though. I feel like Breshke didn't actually care what people though of his waffle. Yet, this is very much defensive. Then we get this. On April 12 2015 02:22 Tubesock wrote: Town, don't do any stupid shinanny shit. Vote Dwarf or vote Plotspot. He's not looking good either. Now wait a minute - here's the kicker - this comes RIGHT after prplhz calls attention to lynching Soren or Stutters On April 12 2015 05:13 Tubesock wrote: Stutters. Well, he has like 5 posts but they seem to have content and I read them and think he's at least thinking about the game. I think he's WAY more towny and useful than Dwarf or even Plotspot considering his weirdness. So this tells me that Tube is townreading Stutters. Then Tube says THIS about Plot. I then immediately question why he's not trying to interpret Plotspot when he brought the rosetta stone thing up and he said he wasn't a good multitasker. A cop out? On April 12 2015 05:23 Tubesock wrote: You guys should probably jump off Plot. This is I don't even know what this is. And the rest of his recent stuff. (Note: butched the quote bracket from Tube) I didn't really try because I was trying to figure out why Dwarf is doing what Dwarf is doing. I don't think I'm a very good multitasker. [...] Long story, mostly I was thinking about Dwarf. But I also wasn't too worried about others since people were doing stuff. My current towns Breshke, Soren, Prp, Rso, Jar, and you if you were posting as a smurf or something. And then BOOM. Vote on Stutters. Why didn't I see this before. On April 12 2015 05:37 Tubesock wrote: If this can save Plotspots for now I'll shenanny to Stutters695. ##Unvote ##Vote: Stutters695 There is no rationale - I'm not seeing it in his filter of any progression on Stutters other than "sheeping prp" and wanting to save plotspots. You think I look bad for my switch? Tube was townreading Stutters and then he voted him. In page 3 of his filter, he says he's sheeping prplhz. On April 12 2015 05:55 Tubesock wrote: Basically, Plots been doing some weird weird scumclaimy play. Just in the last 3 pages. Makes me queasy and Prplhz also. I'm basically sheeping Prp. I realise this is a wall post - But basically he's townreading Stutters and then he votes Stutters. I have no idea how Tube plays scum. But just taking a sharp look at his filter (pages 2-3) this looks pretty bad. | ||
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prp looked fine, On re-examination, Tube did not. That long wall post is me illustrating why Tube's switch to Stutters is problematic. | ||
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Tube townreads Stutters. At the very least I'm understanding from him Stutters is higher on the townie totem pole for him than Plot. Why doesn't he question his townread? I asked him to grasp plotspot but he used the rosetta stone/mutitasking argument and then sheeped prplhz onto a townread. prplhz had a decent thought process for the switch. But with Tube something isn't adding up. | ||
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favmirage
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On April 12 2015 05:02 Tubesock wrote: Uh. This is pretty late in the day. Has anyone done the decoder with Plot? What the what? You guys should probably jump off Plot. This is I don't even know what this is. And the rest of his recent stuff. On April 12 2015 05:34 Tubesock wrote: Let's say you joined as a SmurfX this game. You played the same, I'll objectively say I would town you. Problem is, of the games I've read and you've been in, I have a 30% success rate in reading you. I'm FAR more comfortable reading Sicklucker and even ALakaslam than you. I think with you I have to wait to see you solve the game or something. I don't even know how to begin. Anyway. Let's talk Plot or Stutters. We can talk tonight about you and I. I'm not comfortable lynching Plot right now because I feel like he's trying to talk to me. I said in my tinfoil post that I love to read difficult/cryptic people. He then later towns me for some reason. And does this weird ^^ "code". So, I think he's trying to get me to read him and put in effort. WIFOM if he's buddying me? Seems like a real reach, I think he's honestly trying to get someone to dig deep into him. WIFOM for newbs from Princess Bride movie Wine in Front of Me. Great scene, google it. It's either or type of argument. Unfortunately, it's too late in the day and these things take me a longtime. On April 12 2015 05:42 Tubesock wrote: Plotspot in a way reminds me of me in Carol of the Bells. I had no idea what the fuck i was doing. You mentioned it when you and others shenannied onto me that game. My game play changed drastically each day. I was trying to figure out the game, and then how to get peoples attention AND then get them to listen to me. Plot is making an effort to change his play to be reconsidered. If he survives and then goes back to his old behavior then we lynch him day 2. But, I'd like to hear more from him. so...i'm really not trying to be an asshole here, hts, but i think it's fairly obvious why he didn't want to vote plot based on these posts? though it's a good point that he seems to have dropped his townread on stutters...all of these posts came after he said he thought stutters looked better than plot and dwarf and they came after plot stated that the ^^ basically meant "lies" (which i interpret as "sarcasm" not "lies") | ||
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i'm not deliberately trying to be confusing lolol >< | ||
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Stutters695
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On April 13 2015 09:24 prplhz wrote: reading some of strutters other games he can live for now Don't really have time to play right now, but what games and what did you see that changed your mind? I'm off all day tomorrow, so I'll be here then. | ||
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Stutters695
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On April 13 2015 12:55 prplhz wrote: uh i'm not going to say what changed my mind right now I'm aware of my meta, but it's a drastic change, even if you don't have me as town. Give me just one thing you saw. Going off of memory, I can see a few reasons pro-town and pro-scum justifications from my play so far. I want to see where you're coming from. | ||
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jarjarbinks
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On April 12 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote: Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game? He's a veteran, but probably not. ##unvote ##vote stutters695 If I got Rso's argument right, she thinks that HTS vote switch is strange due primarily to the fact that HTS thought both targets were bad and there was no chance stutters was dying at EOD, which HTS was there long enough to understand. IF SO This would be the only quote that would even make you think that HTS thought plotspot was town. But I would argue that when HTS went to post this, she already knew she was going to vote stutters. It might be a formatting thing, but most people post their votes after everything else they say in the post. Given all that, I can only see her doing this vote for three reasons: 1. She is scum trying to look better later on. 2. She is scum trying to bus stutters later just in case people keep scumming him. 3. She is town, and wants to feel good about not mislynching plot. Also a lot of people haven't been reading her that much before N1. IF she does flip scum, this could give some merit to my point #3 earlier, that scum didn't feel threatened enough to kill someone in game. | ||
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On April 13 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote: If I got Rso's argument right, she thinks that HTS vote switch is strange due primarily to the fact that HTS thought both targets were bad and there was no chance stutters was dying at EOD, which HTS was there long enough to understand. IF SO This would be the only quote that would even make you think that HTS thought plotspot was town. But I would argue that when HTS went to post this, she already knew she was going to vote stutters. It might be a formatting thing, but most people post their votes after everything else they say in the post. Given all that, I can only see her doing this vote for three reasons: 1. She is scum trying to look better later on. 2. She is scum trying to bus stutters later just in case people keep scumming him. 3. She is town, and wants to feel good about not mislynching plot. Also a lot of people haven't been reading her that much before N1. IF she does flip scum, this could give some merit to my point #3 earlier, that scum didn't feel threatened enough to kill someone in game. lol jjb >> thank you for the rundown but what do you actually think, gungan? i've been wanting to sink my claws into you! xD | ||
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On April 13 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote: lol jjb >> thank you for the rundown but what do you actually think, gungan? i've been wanting to sink my claws into you! xD lolz so angry! and btw I had thoughts in there I swear! They were real things lol | ||
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On April 13 2015 12:21 Stutters695 wrote: Don't really have time to play right now, but what games and what did you see that changed your mind? I'm off all day tomorrow, so I'll be here then. then you show us the magic yeah? xP | ||
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