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On April 14 2015 11:41 Stutters695 wrote:
Or they withheld the rb?
What's the point?
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On April 14 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:
lol um
i'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that there's no medic, bresh, unless you're saying the medic would definitely protect hf?
Okay follow my logic here.
Noone has claimed roleblocked. So it is safe to assume scum most likely blocked HF. Why would they do this?
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On April 14 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 11:37 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 11:27 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely. Why? Who is going to prot the new guy? Roleblocks are notified. Noone has said they were roleblocked which you 100% do because theres no reason not to. This means that HF was roleblocked as he was killed. There is only a couple cases where this is useful. You must remember scum knows the setup If he is cop and gets medic saved he doesn't get a check (not likely if it is a cop medic setup scum would probs try spread out their kill and roleblock unless they were sure someone was a role. If he is vigi he dies and doesn't get his shot off. (This doesn't feel that important as even if the vigi shot htis town doesn't gain a miss lynch and there is a possibility of vigi hitting a town.) Finally if they know there is a vet they want to ensure that they dont have to put kp on him twice. While this doesn't gain town a miss lynch town gains a confirmed town for at least one phase. ah, nvm, i am apparently having reading comprehension issues lol >< you're referring to the possible setups not containing both a doc and a vet okay ^^
There is no setup with both doc and vet? Idk if im misreading what you mean but there is 1 of vigi/cop and one of vet/medic
Im saying because of mafias roleblock im like 85% sure we have a vet.
I could go further and say there is probably a vigi aswell but that logic comes down to personal preference and how much they thought HF would be a threat.
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On April 14 2015 12:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Also, Breahke's logic makes sense, but I can't shake the feeling he plays scum like I do. Reminds me to follow up when I'm not drunk tomorrow. It just feels off.
Lol do you play scum really badly? If so we play scum the same
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On April 14 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 12:25 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 11:37 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 11:27 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself.
2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely. Why? Who is going to prot the new guy? Roleblocks are notified. Noone has said they were roleblocked which you 100% do because theres no reason not to. This means that HF was roleblocked as he was killed. There is only a couple cases where this is useful. You must remember scum knows the setup If he is cop and gets medic saved he doesn't get a check (not likely if it is a cop medic setup scum would probs try spread out their kill and roleblock unless they were sure someone was a role. If he is vigi he dies and doesn't get his shot off. (This doesn't feel that important as even if the vigi shot htis town doesn't gain a miss lynch and there is a possibility of vigi hitting a town.) Finally if they know there is a vet they want to ensure that they dont have to put kp on him twice. While this doesn't gain town a miss lynch town gains a confirmed town for at least one phase. ah, nvm, i am apparently having reading comprehension issues lol >< you're referring to the possible setups not containing both a doc and a vet okay ^^ There is no setup with both doc and vet? Idk if im misreading what you mean but there is 1 of vigi/cop and one of vet/medic Im saying because of mafias roleblock im like 85% sure we have a vet. I could go further and say there is probably a vigi aswell but that logic comes down to personal preference and how much they thought HF would be a threat. ummm yes that is exactly what i just said xP
Yeah i thought i was misreading
On April 14 2015 12:28 Tubesock wrote:
I think you're right Breshke. No reason for someone to not claim RB.
Trfel said he still wasn't caught up. I think he's only to the end of the Day 1? He's looking pretty towny though. Course, he could be doing this as scum to solidify his entrance but that seems like a lot of work.
I agree i like trefels analysis (maybe partly because he kind of agrees with me on HTS). Who do you want to lynch currently tube is it still HTS?
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On April 14 2015 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
wait now i think i'm confused again -_-
you were trying to say that the lack of an rb claim is indicative of a vet and if there's a vet there isn't a vet/doc setup in the op, right?
CORRECT so im saying we most likely don't have a doc
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Im not going to actually posting much until tonight i think irl excuse i feel like shit and dont have the motivation but that isnt relevant to this game
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Stutters if you had one read you were most sure of who would it be and what do you think their alignment is? I don't need a reason.
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On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_-
So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later).
The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment.
Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today
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On April 14 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_- So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later). The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment. Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today <3! lol sorry but your "no bad rso bad hts read" followed by sheeping what i perceived to be thread sentiment on bourne was giving me the willies. i expect more from you lol >< this makes me feel better about you (and not just cause you're agreeing with me) i don't think you ever answered why you're so certain on hts being town, though?
Honestly not sure. I think its because like I felt the reasons you guys were pushing to make her scum didn't make her scum. That coupled with the fact that I felt like she actually tried to make me take my vote off of a town gives me good vibes. Typing this out makes me wonder why I was so certain but at the same time i still think she is town? I guess its a gut read.
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Trefel when you say you don't want to lynch an active player today who does that leave you with left in your lynch pool?
dwarf, bourne and theshining? anyone else?
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On April 14 2015 14:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:19 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_- So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later). The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment. Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today <3! lol sorry but your "no bad rso bad hts read" followed by sheeping what i perceived to be thread sentiment on bourne was giving me the willies. i expect more from you lol >< this makes me feel better about you (and not just cause you're agreeing with me) i don't think you ever answered why you're so certain on hts being town, though? Honestly not sure. I think its because like I felt the reasons you guys were pushing to make her scum didn't make her scum. That coupled with the fact that I felt like she actually tried to make me take my vote off of a town gives me good vibes. Typing this out makes me wonder why I was so certain but at the same time i still think she is town? I guess its a gut read. heh i still don't understand how you read her post as her actively trying to get you to change your vote when it was clearly responding to your question on why there were shenanigans >< and she didn't even take a stance between the two players in it but i guess if it's a gut read there's really nothing to say about it :/
Yeah i know thats why it sucks because it feels like a cop out and why i kind of wanted to take a step back and stop interfering and actually try and get a proper read.
On April 14 2015 14:23 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:20 Breshke wrote:
Trefel when you say you don't want to lynch an active player today who does that leave you with left in your lynch pool?
dwarf, bourne and theshining? anyone else? Also Stutters695. I said it at the top of the page. Note that the reason that I don't want to lynch active players isn't (primarily) activity. I just see these four as significantly more scummy at this time.
That you did my bad.
No i agree that these four seem to be the scummier of the game not just because of activity. Personally i don't think bourne should be lynched today also im giving stutters a day pass for a stupid reason when i should probably just analyse his play.
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On April 14 2015 13:58 Breshke wrote:
Stutters if you had one read you were most sure of who would it be and what do you think their alignment is? I don't need a reason.
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Is thread dead? Ended up going to a friends and the night got away from me. I should probably go to sleep so i have a chance of being around for the deadline but i feel that the way these days have been progressing with many people seemingly holding back their votes is bad for town. Not scummy as ive been doing it myself but it is hard to see where people stand and i feel it is harder for scum to buss or whatever if everyone is actually voting.
That being said I hate that stutters seemingly has little time to play yet when he is in the thread he makes posts like these.
On April 14 2015 14:36 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. This is a real good post.
On April 14 2015 14:37 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:
So far, I'm not impressed with TheBloodyDwarf at all. His play is clearly not towny, there is no question of that. I guess I could see him being a stubborn SC2 Mafia player who is new to a forum mafia environment. But then, he clearly stated, in bold, that this isn't SC2 mafia. From there, I expected to see him attempting to play the forum mafia style (not necessarily succeeding, just attempting). And I haven't seen that at all yet.
His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.
My current lynch pool is as follows (no particular order):
TheBloodyDwarf, Stutters695, The Shining, and Bourneq Is this guy scum? I really want to lynch him.
He does not explain anything. Yes he wasnt immediately prompted to do so by someone yet if you cant stick around to interact and talk about these things why not just post your thoughts not shitty general comments. This being said I WILL NOT be voting stutters today and im probably going to regret it.
On April 14 2015 22:04 Bourneq wrote:
Prplhz activity in d2 is really poor. He has been consistent in 2 things, defending dwarf and trying to lynch the 1 person I can be absolut sure is town. D2 he seems to be sure about his scum read on stutters yet pushes a lynch on me instead.
This post again i kind of like from bourne as it is actually about stuff that is happening this phase and the last sentence is a good observation. Once again shows at elast some critical thinking about the game.
Heres where i start to feel really dirty.
##Vote Theshining
This is third placeholder third because he has promised stuff yet not delivered anything and a third because i don't like the other options
Im aiming to be awake in 5 hours so hopefully see you guys then
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Shining do you not see how absurd it.is you scum me for "casing stutters and voting you" When you basically case me and vote TBD. how do you think it is scummy when i do it but not when you do it.
Also i havnt talked about you because you have one page of filter and its boring.
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RSO could easily be scum here for thinking i was town enough to vote shining straight after i do.basically cheerleadering.me then trying to wagon me with shining when she thinks i.womt rock up.
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On April 15 2015 05:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2015 05:28 Breshke wrote:
RSO could easily be scum here for thinking i was town enough to vote shining straight after i do.basically cheerleadering.me then trying to wagon me with shining when she thinks i.womt rock up. lol xP suuuuuure like i wasn't the one who first brought up shining. go sell it somewhere else
Yet werent confident enough to vote him until i did? This is pointless you arnt getting lynched.
Basically it isnt strange for me to ignore people on my filters rso knows this Hts might idk how.much she reads her own games. Prp is someone else i have largely not mentioned. I would probably lynch him over dwarf
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On April 15 2015 05:31 rsoultin wrote:
no seriously, bresh, do you have any strong opinions? or lukewarm ones?
HTS town
tube town
JJB town
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It really is too early to this. You arn't going to lynch me you don't have the numbers.
Right now id still lynch the shining.
I would also lynch stutters for not taking a stance on me when he is trying to push his lynch since as town you shouldnt let arguments like this fester without trying to help out. Im also done with my reason for giving him the pass.
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On April 15 2015 05:39 rsoultin wrote:
##vote: Breshke
i'll consolidate on dwarf or maybe bourne if i have to, but i'm not lynching prp or shining today
were you not the one who made a case on bourne being town? Why would you consolidate on dwarf?
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