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On April 11 2015 21:18 Soren333 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:On April 10 2015 15:09 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ Plot, can you explain why you think this? I'm assuming you didn't actually 100% believe it, but you just think he's town. Also, what do you think of dwarf and onegu so far? whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town. about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^ Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can. On April 10 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:On April 10 2015 21:00 plotspot wrote:
Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended. How is perceived poor play alignment indicative? IIRC you were scumreading or calling out scum behaviour based on him "playing like a fucktard?" Especially in a newbie game - yes I know Onegu is not a noob but the point still stands - how are you distinguishing between poor play and scum play? Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things. I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote? Where do I even begin with this horrendous post... I'll dissect that post when I'm on the pc.
I'm only quoting this because this never happened. Not a huge deal, but it would have been nice to see a case on plot though, since he voted for him and stuff.
His list has Plot and Dwarf as #1 and #2. Seems blown away by the tubesock case, so why not vote Dwarf? Before he voted the vote count was 3 in favor of plot and 1 in favor of Dwarf (without Tubesock voting yet). His biggest case clears prp. I'm surprised he left it that way. I would think he would want to make the effort to lynch the right guy. If Soren is mafia, I could see how he might think plot would take less effort and take the attention away from him later on.
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I think my brain passed out a few hours ago...lol
I gotta crash.
Shining your right about Rso. I can vouch for her trip if that means anything. And that post of mine was dumb, cuz Rso didn't bus because plot was actually town...
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Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?)
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On April 12 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game?
He's a veteran, but probably not.
##unvote
##vote stutters695
If I got Rso's argument right, she thinks that HTS vote switch is strange due primarily to the fact that HTS thought both targets were bad and there was no chance stutters was dying at EOD, which HTS was there long enough to understand.
IF SO This would be the only quote that would even make you think that HTS thought plotspot was town. But I would argue that when HTS went to post this, she already knew she was going to vote stutters. It might be a formatting thing, but most people post their votes after everything else they say in the post.
Given all that, I can only see her doing this vote for three reasons:
1. She is scum trying to look better later on.
2. She is scum trying to bus stutters later just in case people keep scumming him.
3. She is town, and wants to feel good about not mislynching plot.
Also a lot of people haven't been reading her that much before N1. IF she does flip scum, this could give some merit to my point #3 earlier, that scum didn't feel threatened enough to kill someone in game.
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Honestly, my 3rd point in my last post doesn't even make sense, because she still thought plot was mafia unless she had an epiphany before her post at 5:56 and 5:58
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On April 13 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 12 2015 05:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters voted plotspot. Would someone bus someone this early in a newbie game?
He's a veteran, but probably not.
##unvote
##vote stutters695
If I got Rso's argument right, she thinks that HTS vote switch is strange due primarily to the fact that HTS thought both targets were bad and there was no chance stutters was dying at EOD, which HTS was there long enough to understand. IF SO This would be the only quote that would even make you think that HTS thought plotspot was town. But I would argue that when HTS went to post this, she already knew she was going to vote stutters. It might be a formatting thing, but most people post their votes after everything else they say in the post. Given all that, I can only see her doing this vote for three reasons: 1. She is scum trying to look better later on. 2. She is scum trying to bus stutters later just in case people keep scumming him. 3. She is town, and wants to feel good about not mislynching plot. Also a lot of people haven't been reading her that much before N1. IF she does flip scum, this could give some merit to my point #3 earlier, that scum didn't feel threatened enough to kill someone in game. lol jjb >> thank you for the rundown but what do you actually think, gungan? i've been wanting to sink my claws into you! xD
lolz so angry! and btw I had thoughts in there I swear! They were real things lol
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lolz
ya I was scumreading her in that post...lol
i'm confused as to how HTS missed the rationale behind tube's change as well. I mean it wasn't a solid case for a change, but it was clearly there in his filter around his vote. He shows more rationale for his change than HTS did for hers.
Altho I definite missed things on pretty much everything I said last night...lol
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On April 13 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:54 jarjarbinks wrote:
Wow....hope to actually play with you next time HF.
Reasons why HF was killed that I can think of
1. HF can read another vet well or is good at this game? I have no experience with the guy
2. Scum doesn't want to reveal anything
3. Scum is not worried about anyone so far
#2 is probably most likely...if anyone think #3 is very possible we might need to check our highly townread people in the game (bresh? tube?) or doublecheck at the highly scumread right now (dwarf? stutters?) this post was interesting to me have you looked into who you think is scum given the second option yet?
I started it, im super behind on my reads sheet so I tried to go with whoever it appeared were each persons top 3 scum. It has a lot of issues with is but in general there were some people who weren't being scummed much and some people who were being towned a ton.
People who weren't on top town or top scum the most:
Onegu
HTS
JJB
Tube
People who were top 3 town most:
Prp
Tube
Bresh
JJB
Granted, this analysis has flaws. And note I AM ON BOTH, so if anything it I'm showing that I am not altering the analysis AT ALL. I think if I had my reads stuff updated this would be better, and there was a few people that it was hard to tell who their top scum/town were while others it was easier to ascertain.
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On April 13 2015 13:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 13:40 jarjarbinks wrote:
lolz
ya I was scumreading her in that post...lol
i'm confused as to how HTS missed the rationale behind tube's change as well. I mean it wasn't a solid case for a change, but it was clearly there in his filter around his vote. He shows more rationale for his change than HTS did for hers.
Altho I definite missed things on pretty much everything I said last night...lol honestly i kind of got the impression you were half-drunk making some of those posts >> were you out drinking? xP did you notice something else or just like my case?
lolz well it was like 3-4 am xD
I pointed out the only time she mentioned thinking plot was good! and then said she probably thought of voting first
that's like a thing right lol
but ya besides the lack of strong reads on HTS before D2 started I got nothing else lol
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This was more for the third option....lol I'm an idiot
The second option said they were just trying not to reveal anything with the kill. If that was mafia's pure reason than the only thing you can analyze is that they are confident that whatever people have against the team won't stick.
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I gotta crash. I'll be on for like 5 ish more min if I was confusing above
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...and you wanted to ask me something.... geez its only 1 this time lol
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On April 13 2015 14:07 rsoultin wrote:
uhhh i meant...maybe i got the options mixed up? we can both be idiots lol ><
i don't know what your lists mean or what conclusion you've drawn from them, is what i'm trying to say
yo tube what about my case on hts?
I was saying that if mafia could have been comfortable enough in the game to not need to lynch anyone specifically.
Those lists show the people that are least noticed or most townread, hence "not being threatened" before the NK
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got in and read up
lol hey Trf.....sooooo....its been awhile...lol
first readthrough of hts's case was pretty good. really looking forward to the other two.
also i'm pretty sure Trf's first case is longer than at least two people's filters in this game lol
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On April 14 2015 07:47 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 07:43 jarjarbinks wrote:
got in and read up
lol hey Trf.....sooooo....its been awhile...lol
first readthrough of hts's case was pretty good. really looking forward to the other two.
also i'm pretty sure Trf's first case is longer than at least two people's filters in this game lol
Hi, jarjarbinks! It has been a while. And with good reason, if we played again sooner, I probably would have lynched you out of pure spite.
lol actually that was literally my last game xD Rso's in here, then shining replaces, then you replace lolz pretty hilarious lol
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So I'm trying to figure out stutters because most people are scumming him and I wasn't. I can take two conclusion from what he's done so far.
1. He is scum and not really trying. This is evident in his first read on bresh. His posting is rather small for someone who has played and knows the game. He seems to focus on himself and people talking to him over others His largest case is on prp, the guy who got the train started for him D1.
2. He is town and is going for a low content/high quality kind of game. Is probing and looking for reactions. His first read on Bresh didn't have much right? He was probably looking for a reaction there and didn't like the reaction, which is evident in his later post on him (i'll quote after this). He sets a trap for Trf. He doesn't really defend himself (I guess he's confident he won't get lynched?) but instead focuses on figuring people out in this game.
The more I read his filter, the more I believe in #2.
IF THIS IS TRUE, than I'm much more suspicious of the people on his train: tube, hts , and prp. With his low content posts, he appears to be an easy target. You could call it a trap? And guess what? All three were on my lists I drew up earlier. hts and prp drew red flags from me earlier. This also helps make the NK make more sense.
Looks like I know where to look to find some scum lol
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Hmm so besides the whole "I'm not sure if she really thought stutters was the better lynch", HTS has some pretty good analysis in her filter. I don't remember her being this active when she was scum in my only game with her either.
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On April 14 2015 08:58 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 08:46 jarjarbinks wrote:
So I'm trying to figure out stutters because most people are scumming him and I wasn't. I can take two conclusion from what he's done so far.
1. He is scum and not really trying. This is evident in his first read on bresh. His posting is rather small for someone who has played and knows the game. He seems to focus on himself and people talking to him over others His largest case is on prp, the guy who got the train started for him D1.
2. He is town and is going for a low content/high quality kind of game. Is probing and looking for reactions. His first read on Bresh didn't have much right? He was probably looking for a reaction there and didn't like the reaction, which is evident in his later post on him (i'll quote after this). He sets a trap for Trf. He doesn't really defend himself (I guess he's confident he won't get lynched?) but instead focuses on figuring people out in this game.
The more I read his filter, the more I believe in #2.
IF THIS IS TRUE, than I'm much more suspicious of the people on his train: tube, hts , and prp. With his low content posts, he appears to be an easy target. You could call it a trap? And guess what? All three were on my lists I drew up earlier. hts and prp drew red flags from me earlier. This also helps make the NK make more sense.
Looks like I know where to look to find some scum lol I legit have no idea, are you JarJarDinks as well from Basterd Mini?
Nope. Just the straight up Gungan lol My last game was as scum in a newbie game...I'm not sure who you check past games... Rso, Shining, and Trf were in it though.
I think I had a different student game with Rso, Trf, and Shining as well if that helps
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Ugh this day got away from me xD taxes are evil. Also, HTS might not be that evil, questions for HTS:
1. Who is your top scum target? Bourneq? Onegu? Tube? Stutters? If you say Onegu we have a problem. Granted, I think #2 on your case might be viable, but I think you blew that case out of proportion. If you don't mind putting out a top 2 or something that would help me understand where you stand?
Since EOD happens before I return from work I'm going to put up a tier list and a vote right now.
List: lower you are the scummier I think you are even in categories
IF I had to say you were town:
Breshke- not most vocal but reads are pretty good and I liked D2 play.
Townleans
Stutters- Still think he's town. If HTS clears her name and PRP gets more towny I'm completely wrong...
Trf/Onegu- Onegu was on drugs + funny. HTS's case on him was good, but it didn't convince me he's scum. Trf seems like superTrf like my last game with him.
Rso- Didn't dominate D1. Did more D2. Interactions with her didn't draw red flags, but she could fool me in a heartbeat
Unlynchables
Shining- Ace was questionable. Shining's gone. Excuse? Idk. Literal null for me prob. We shall see.
Tube- On Stutter wagon (lolz) and seemed to be TR or not read much. And he dissed the list. Tinfoil tunnel seemed genuine though. And HTS's case on him was weakest by far.
Bourneq- I didn't get much chance to go through him, but HTS's case on him I thought was her strongest. Especially the policy over the hard scumread. Plus he's the guy I keep forgetting is playing.
HTS- unless her top two scumreads strikes a nerve I don't want to lynch. Some pretty good analysis and I liked the D1 analysis more as I went through it. I could see how her EOD story is believable, just not sure to believe it or not...
Lynchables
Dwarf- Scummy D1 play + on Stutter train + earlier case I posted + 0 scumhunting + policy + no real danger of lynched?
Prp- I wish I got to this. If I magically have free time tomorrow I will make a case. If not pretend I did and check him. Red flag + worse filter than HTS + earlier case I posted + on my list for most TR
##vote: Prp
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