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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:28 GMT
#637
"I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). "

I still do something similar, although it has been updated. Still not the greatest though, and I don't really base my vote on it too much. Got some other things in the works. I'm hoping one day it is good enough to use, just not now.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:34 GMT
#638
On April 11 2015 02:33 prplhz wrote:
i hope jarjar agrees with his sister on something then i'm just going to sheep them


lol scrub sibs (siblings...) for the win! you know i'm a noob right?

but you know, you should try to make reads. me and my sis do argue...pretty much all the time... and she hurts my man feelings lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:46 GMT
#640
Basic thoughts I felt reiterating:

Dwarf: Post about dwarf IS correct: I don't really see reads.

PRP: Prp's half joke? (was it a joke? or not a joke?) is bothersome if he was super serious.

Stutter: Entrance slightly bothersome but already addressed. Stutter, do you have any association with Onegu? What are the four people you mentioned you would be fine hanging?

IN GENERAL: It seems like people are OMGUS'ing a lot in this game. Please be honest with your reads. I don't want to have to decipher if you actually believe they are scum besides the fact they scumread you. Someone scumreading you doesn't mean that they are evil. They are just right or wrong, depending on your alignment.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:53 GMT
#642
"I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?"

Ok I could see that. I think I interpreted the post as an "angry that he scummed you" post rather than you having actual reasons. My B
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:54 GMT
#643
On April 11 2015 07:49 prplhz wrote:
what joke


About you sheeping me and RS
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:54 GMT
#644
On April 11 2015 07:53 jarjarbinks wrote:
"I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?"

Ok I could see that. I think I interpreted the post as an "angry that he scummed you" post rather than you having actual reasons. My B


@Plot
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:02 GMT
#646
On April 11 2015 07:56 prplhz wrote:
i wasn't joking at all. at that point i seriously intended to sheep you and rso if you agreed on something. but now you just implied that i don't have any reads so i'm not going to sheep you (singular) anyway.


Yaaaaaa lol I did do that.

Honestly I think that if your town you have a better shot of going off of your reads than sheeping someone you don't know the alignment of. Are you 100% sure Rso's town? I'm not. She could definitely play like this as mafia or town.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:03 GMT
#647
I'll be around if anyone has questions. Need to look through all of this a few more times.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:20 GMT
#650
I don't see where dwarf is his biggest scumread, at least after this morning. Did I miss something? It was before the shift off of dwarf.

You could be on to something with the shift. He generally was all for dwarf when everyone else was on him. One of the slower ones off of that train. Now is on Ace, who many people are either scumming or suspicious of.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:39 GMT
#655
Hmm The flip flop begins lol

So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.

Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.

I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 00:01 GMT
#662
Breshke a few questions for you:

I believe you are still voting dwarf. If say dwarf came back and made reads and stuff and looked super towny, who would you vote next? Who's your next top scumread and why? Based on your filter, I would guess Bourne. Is this correct?

You don't seem to notice Plot or Tube much, are they null in your book?
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 00:11 GMT
#664
poop I gotta run

i'll come back and finish later lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:20 GMT
#801
Just read up again i'll go back and respond to peeps.

That tinfoil hat theory?! WHAT?! I mean it's possible and the quotes were spot on. I would say the chances of that happening are slim, but it does kind of fit.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:23 GMT
#802
On April 11 2015 09:14 plotspot wrote:
Oh yea, please explain what you guys mean by nulling someone. No read?


Yes.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:27 GMT
#803
On April 11 2015 10:48 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 08:39 jarjarbinks wrote:
Hmm The flip flop begins lol

So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.

Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.

I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all.


Was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. Was really hoping it'd be a newbie to see their reaction, but can't win them all.

Ace: obv policy lynch, nothing more. I'm less confident in seeing an increase in posting from him if we give him time, do he's my fall back if I can't get my main lynch going.

Currently I still want Breshke's head. I'm not sure how to vocalize it exactly, but he just feels off.

I still see plenty of scum mindset behind his actions and skimming his past 4 (2 scum, 2 town) games day 1 hasn't put me at ease. His play so far doesn't match either meta really. As town he has much more focus in his posts. He might change his mind, but if he saw something he didn't like (my post for example) he would challenge it until he's satisfied, not brush it off. There is also a distinct lack of interaction with the people he suspects.

His scum meta does seem to withhold reads until later, but after dying n1 and n2, I can see why he would attempt to change that. He's currently who I want to lynch.

The other two I'm really interested in are prpl and plot, but I haven't had the time to really get into them yet.

Can you rephrase that question about interactions with Onegu? If you mean us playing together, we have, but nothing notable from memory.


Maybe you are right. I just don't see it right now. I don't have the meta experience you do, but I felt like breshke was scumhunting around when reading his filter yesterday. Went after the person he thought was most scummy and has questioned a good range of others.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:34 GMT
#804
On April 11 2015 14:05 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 15:40 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 15:35 Onegu wrote:
On April 10 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 15:16 Onegu wrote:
On April 10 2015 15:04 Breshke wrote:
Dwarf is starting to feel like lynchbait



Ugg really hate this post. Like in my experience calling people lynchbait especially when those players are newer for no reason scummy as hell.

Also rsoul could be scum, her points on HtS are non alignment indicative, she hasn't town read me yet and she is currently like the only person on the site I think can read me correctly. And she plus 1'd the post I'm pointing out for no reason also.


Idk if this is what you are saying but i agree lynchbait is different in newbie games with brand new players because they are more likely to just jump on wagons but w/e

Also rso didnt point out that post for no reason i asked why she ahdnt read me and it was because i havnt posted enough but she went on to say she liked that post.



Like you scum read him almost all game and then flip he's lynchbait without any reason.


I'm actually still voting for him so i havnt exactly flipped.

The lynchbait thing was because i felt a bunch of people were jumping on the wagon but i was actually wrong theres only 4 and one is sorren and one if me so it is still fairly pure. The other two are tube and ace and I am kinda town lean on tube but expect more from him. Ace's post where he votes didnt impress me much and thats another thing that attributed to me calling it lynchbait.


oh, and while you're at it...

what is your read on ace? you mentioned he's scummy later but i don't think you've ever said you want to lynch him? it seems to me that if your read on him is strong enough to make you question your initial scumread you'd have more to say about him xP


lol I couldn't help it. I understand Ace's post wasn't the best, but don't you feel like you might be tunneling? On an inactive player? like literally inactive to the point where he was switched lol

I feel like Shining deserves BOD until he at least posts things.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:39 GMT
#805
On April 11 2015 16:30 rsoultin wrote:
fair enough...i want to wait on oneg and shining myself lol



I=tard

sorry sis lol
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#807
On April 11 2015 17:56 Tubesock wrote:
There is risk in this play for sure. He could be straight up lynched. But doesn't softing vet help AND taking advantage of people's general unnease of "easy lynches" or "low-hanging fruit"? You can see it in this game with him. He got 4 votes fairly quickly and people started getting quesy. I unvoted. Breshke said something. Prplhz said "I wish people would stop voting a guy who wants to play mysteriously. It's not scummy."

It fucking worked. People are talking about other stuff and there is ZERO direction. Exactly what mafia wants.

For sweet justice

##Vote: TheBloodyDwarf


OK for dwarf (as godfather) to do this a bunch of things would have to happen:

1. He gets the scared mafia thing. It's possible, it is a thing I've seen it twice in 3 games. I think there is a chance he's played as mafia in a different game but probably not one this intense.

2. There is no easy targets. He just said he has no reads so that could be a thing. Plot also said the same, so to a new person this could be the case?

3. He comes up with this plan. Beyond risky, he would have value his life very little. Most of my games see people like dwarf get lynched day one (all been town too). If you look at your quotes, he would have to be very obvious about it too, which might be a problem for someone who was scared mafia (#1).

4. There's even a cop in the game. Take the chances of #1-3 happening and divide it by two.

Final Verdict: Ehh. I mean it is possible, but I would say the chances of him doing this are less than the random chance he is any of the mafia roles. I think he is the most like to be godfather out of all of us, but I think we would be more successful at focusing on why people are mafia over straight up godfather.

Verdict on Tube for posting: Out there factor could put you in a weird town category. You would look more town if you weren't on him before everyone switched to someone else. Definitely not lynchable today though.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 16:02 GMT
#809
On April 11 2015 18:47 prplhz wrote:
a green check is useless until godfather has flipped.


I disagree. A 67% chance of someone being scum is better than random chance they roll scum by a lot. I don't see a cop killing themselves over it though, both because it is not the smartest move and you would definitely lose face if the person you check does flip godfather.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 11 2015 16:05 GMT
#811
On April 11 2015 18:53 prplhz wrote:
this is super debatable but what isn't debatable is that sc2 arcade mafia players in a newbie game would never do this.

anyway, COP SHOULDN'T OUT HIMSELF TO GIVE A GREEN CHECK.


Is sc2 like starkingdoms? If that's the only place dwarf came from he definitely didn't do this lol
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