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On March 19 2015 00:18 Half the Sky wrote: I might need to start offering some of you beer or something to fully tempt you all in.  Holyflare, Mocsta, Soren and whoever else....you know you want to Cider ty | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:05 Alakaslam wrote: Confirmation by speed is something I have used as scum. It's just BUTTHIJOLE. mafia | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:18 Toadesstern wrote: sup guyses For not for I have rolled town and I will lead us to glorious days of dancing under rainbows while lynching all of mafia. Gone are the days when I just showed that I'm blatantly town to everyone and lose nontheless because I trusted people that want to get attention. For that I ask you to vote to become your mayor so we can slay all of mafia. The position of my personal sheriff is still open and I shall announce the guy or girl that gets that position soon! also mafia that's 2 now mafia list slam toad | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:27 Toadesstern wrote: I've basicly copy & pasted that post as I've done in my last.... 5 or so games in a row, both as mafia as well as town. So why don't you go ahead and explain a little more in detail about what you think rather than just killing me for "I don't know, I forgot what I don't like about toad but he's mafia" like you did last time? Let's kill Toad! | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:28 Eden1892 wrote: About rsoultin? No it isn't. About anybody else? Sure you can't seriously say "mind meld" when someone points out the most obvious observation in the game | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:41 sicklucker wrote: Slam pretty much just always busses his partners. Sup hf? then you should be voting for the majority target of alakaslam instead of being tedious and annoying | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:45 Alakaslam wrote: Why exactly? You are using bs to claim I am scum and voted me equally seriously. Your own logic condemns you here, so if you are town you should rescind it. no u | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:48 Holyflare wrote: I don't particularly see what's wrong with my logic that serious posts that try and look jokey = mafia. It's not just your meta, it's a general rough tell. Then you overreacted and said it made ME mafia instead of just shrugging it off like a joke. It's seriousness compounded with over-defensiveness and more seriousness. | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote: Heres the thing that i'm struggling with on this initial slam scum read even though I agree with it in principle, I recently played a game with slam over at another site and he played like this there as town. It gives me a bit of pause at this juncture, also Slam went against quite possibly the hardest hitting player in the thread because he thought he was getting railroaded early. I think that's kind of towny coming from slams position rather than just straight omgus. He still looks a bit scummy because of his seriousness but this post reads sort of towny to me. link me the game | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Then why do you scumread HF for using meta that has been correct thus far? ![[image loading]](http://media1.giphy.com/media/5O3k4fxKARpVS/200.gif) | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:53 Damdred wrote: http://smashboards.com/threads/death-note-mafia-3-slots.373759/page-2#post-18133659 its somewhere around that, that's the sign up thread I ost the address for the game. http://smashboards.com/threads/death-note-mafia-game-thread-ovah.382165/ it's here but there's no filters so effort... | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:57 Alakaslam wrote: Based solely on your own serious allegation to my own cautions toward jokes along confirmation lines in a big game where people sheep stuff. I won as mafia doing what you are doing. I will not let that ahit fly. you think my serious allegation was a post that had the word "mafia" solely in it? | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:01 Alakaslam wrote: Holyflare is scum. He knows this is not why I am scumreading him. I actually wasn't sure earlier now I am. On March 19 2015 08:23 Alakaslam wrote: So I point out that Holyflare is using wifom, based on my own actions in the past, and I am scum for it? Scum need to find mislynches, and wifom is their tool. This is why I like wifom so much and will expose it every chance I get. FITE me palmar, what, are you scum? liar | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:03 Alakaslam wrote: No. The vote and the following postings led to my vote. ^^^^^ This is the ONLY other post that I posted since that post slam, | ||
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a) Full of crappy bs b) confirmed lying reasons for voting me | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:08 Alakaslam wrote: Actually, you lie very descreetly here. You bolded my defense instead of my offense. I do not think you are scum because you used wifom. I do not think you are scum because you claimed confirmation early. I think you are scum because you voted on a very weak premise. This is why o hate RVS on smashboards No. Let's break this down instead of you being an obtuse lying asshole. I post once that you are mafia, highlighting the post that made you look mafia to me based on previous meta and meta that is generally used in finding mafia and townies that I use successfully in almost every game I ever play. I then post again highlighting a post of toad's that looked like a mafia post. THEN you vote me. Highlighting my post of my list of 2 people (you and toad) saying i'm not this bad. I actually misread your post about wifom because I thought you were applying that to me using wifom about yourself instead. So really you misread the entire situation and called me mafia because you thought I was voting you for wifom reasons. I clarify these reasons are because it is about your TONE of seriousness, your over defensiveness and seriousness again. You then update DO NOT UPDATE YOUR SCUM READ TO RECTIFY YOUR ERROR and instead continue on like I initially voted you because of some wifom which is not the case. You can clearly see my error in misreading the highlighted because my post explains that my case is based on your meta and disregarding that is based on seriousness, hence why I agree with artanis post. YOU DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING EVER. WHy is this slam? Why are you trying to derail any attempt I had at pushing anything and instead fling shit in my direction when I was being the most productive asset here. You don't even comment on the toad thing which is actually very good indeed. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote: I heard about it somewhere but I never saw the context or the game like when I brought it up I was asking a question . That emocon thing? Because I vaguely heard it (from you) but I dont know anything about it. Once again you guys take the smallest qeustion and turn it into something so annoying. I dont see what your angle is here this is not something I would lie about as either alignment. Its not alignment indignitive, also we 100% lynch this guy because he was in horn and read the game so knows everything about what they are saying | ||
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On February 06 2015 04:42 sicklucker wrote: Cool bro? So do I vote her? I would like to know who among my scum reads the vote is most likely to go on so I can go have a nap no don't give him the benefit of the doubt since this quote proves he is 100% a liar | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:22 Alakaslam wrote: Apparently it is still going. Like politics. Repeat that I only am doing what in fact you are doing and hope it sticks. Not going to fly; who voted first? This answers absolutely nothing. If you are trying something new and trying to be productive (what I assume your ramble at me was trying to be) then you should absolutely be up front with me. Why did you not update your first vote when you saw the actual reasons that I was voting for you? | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:22 Holyflare wrote: no don't give him the benefit of the doubt since this quote proves he is 100% a liar | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:25 Alakaslam wrote: Because there was no need. You are mafia; you are using fallacy and wifom to an excess. Please outline this to absolutely everyone. Where is my wifom? I thought your post was too serious for slam meta which is a useful heuristic and even if it's not anymore it's a valid general heuristic at the start of the game. I vote you. You vote me for a misunderstanding, thinking I'm voting you for you talking about what you do as mafia. When I clarify it you try and shovel more shit on me instead of admitting flat out you were mistaken. You are still trying to do that. Why. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:29 rsoultin wrote: my ass is amazingly pert thank you much  i really have to stop responding to these comments lol ![[image loading]](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img7/504/wreckitralph.gif) wutttt | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:29 Alakaslam wrote: Also, you ignore any time I said tone sucks, meta (that's not actually true meta because I can alter it at will) sucks, and continued to push for my lynch, successfully because people here have been used to stuff that I want to shake up. No, I didn't ignore it. In fact I responded to it directly here: On March 19 2015 08:33 Holyflare wrote: Disregarding all meta, your vote is far too serious for anybody of a towny persuasion. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:31 Toadesstern wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=guyses&t=c&f=-1&u=Toadesstern&gb=date&d= so we know the first thing is a lie from you because you didn't even bother to check a simple TL search for me, despite knowing that you did exactly the same bullshit the last game we played together in which you lynched me when we both were town. I'm starting to believe you're doing this on purpose and not just to start some discussion. The second thing is the same bullshit you did without explaining anything just "kill toad" you did last game as well and again, I'd think you'd not repeat that especially after last game and having ragequitted there. So why are you doing this Palmar? 24. Toadesstern As Queen Zeal, Was Lynched Cycle 5! as mafia gg | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:32 Alakaslam wrote: Because I am NOT mistaken about the fallacies and attempts at deceit that followed, versus statements to that end. And the stubborn holding to your vote, which essentially spurred mine. You seem to conveniently leave that out of your projections of my reasoning. i'm just going to ignore you then because you are just stubborn and will continue to act like this the rest of the game | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:33 sicklucker wrote: spoiler alert + Show Spoiler + I dont really read threads when im mafia. Also I died pretty early in that game YOU WERE TOWN YOU MOFO LIAR | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:35 sicklucker wrote: So let me get this straight. You guys are calling me mafia for not remembering townie things people said in a game where i was mafia and not trying to find towns. Is this correct? for lying, twice now + having a really random read on rsoul that shouldn't exist | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:36 Toadesstern wrote: did you even bother going through the list? You see I'm using it in my towngames as well: first game is this, second game is JoaT that has Toadesstern in the OP. There are posts in there from outside of mafiagames, yet you only mention one where I was mafia and Palmar didn't even bother to check it at all? Why not come to the conclusion that I'm just using that word a lot no matter what? Even in irc when not playing mafia... no i didn't bother because it was far too much effort and I don't really care enough to click past one game (+ i still thought joat was ongoing for some reason) | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:36 Alakaslam wrote: Or you are lynched. If you are town, let it be a little annoying gnat that bites any time you use fallacy as town, because it opens probability for Mislynch. There is always a logical reason to scumread scum, so stick with the logical whenever you can. please slam, when my mafia lynch % drops below 80%+ then i'll listen to you | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote: Nope, I made it after I knew my role. Not like the geript vote. i really don't want to read into this too far and abuse pm timings so i'm going to ignore it | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:39 Holyflare wrote: no i didn't bother because it was far too much effort and I don't really care enough to click past one game (+ i still thought joat was ongoing for some reason) but this doesn't matter because what palmar said is true because it's exactly how I felt | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote: Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly? whatever you want it to mean baby you tell me what you think of it | ||
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how does any of that make him mafia? | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:55 Damdred wrote: I kinda want to town read art for mind meld mind meld on what...? that he thought palmar was memorable??? that doesn't really make sense | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote: yeah but I am not paying attention very well. I am kind of certain of this HF SO Who caught it? Where is it? hey guess who caught it you twat | ||
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"I am not agianst SL lynch." "why are you not against an sl lynch" "because i want to lynch you!" "I'm not reading the thread because i'm so certain on hf!" ^ somehow you know you want to lynch sl (for unknown reasons still because you didn't even answer me) and you ignore the entire thread where you might be wrong on me even though i've found this guy lying twice AND QUOTED IT and NOW you are trying to get people OFF of SL because I am pushing it WITHOUT EVEN READING THE QUOTES OR GAMES YOURSELF wtfh slam | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:05 sicklucker wrote: Oh ya this epic post it was super angly and It always stuck in my head. but here he just "hard claimed town" so I think I overreacted I dont know why this post came into my head ![[image loading]](http://media1.giphy.com/media/zkSFsZpQMZuG4/200.gif) | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:05 Alakaslam wrote: just went back and read stuff. Unfortunately it is about a game I wasn't in, but it looks really legit. And it was right during my argument, so I didn't see the stuff. Revoting. summarise it for me quickly so i know you aren't lying | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:08 Superbia wrote: Like your past few posts have done absolutely nothing. It looks like you're doing something. But you're not really doing anything. is this not 10000% true of you too? | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:03 Holyflare wrote: yeh sl gimme some quick reads | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:12 Superbia wrote: Why the fuck did you feel the need to justify your question to this degree? I really like his answer | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:16 Eden1892 wrote: eh. i still don't like it. but if rso and artie and hf all like it then i'll worry about something else for now speaking of. hf why were you so pissed at slam earlier? i commented on how it was giving me mafia vibes from you earlier if you want to find the example. i don't think you're mafia based on total body of work but that post gave me the heebie-jeebies because i get frustrated when people call me mafia for bs reasons especially as I perceived him to be lying and just throwing more crap onto the fire and nobody was really listening at all | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:39 Alakaslam wrote: I can get behind this sentiment and statement, I didn't think I could read hoa However good to verify stuff in case so since toad will do what he will do, I am not gonna FoS him for this. yes but how can he read that game without establishing any real basis on what we're even talking about when all he knows is a quoted post from eden which doesn't even quote what i quoted in my filter | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:48 Toadesstern wrote: I liked to at least check something people mentioned actually happened. That takes me 5 minutes and I don't bother with more than that because reading an entire game takes me forever. I was asked what I think about the SL emoticon thing, I said I have no idea because I don't know what people are takling about and I'd have to check that if you really want me to. And I did spend 5 minutes on checking it. Not more or less... Does wasting 5 minutes make me scummy in your book or are you just still on about my first post and use whatever I post to push that along? not reading the actual thread is scummy yes | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:49 Fecalfeast wrote: am I wrong or did eden fakeclaim miller? apparently so | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:55 Superbia wrote: HF, what did you think of SL's list? it's particularly listy | ||
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On March 19 2015 17:51 Holyflare wrote: The second half of that sentence hasn't been researched though but i know he used it as an excuse to be town read as mafia, sec just going to leave it alone and seee how productive he gets instead so nvm | ||
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Like super duper heavily. | ||
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On March 19 2015 18:04 Holyflare wrote: Also, I kind of want to heavily lynch superbia. Like super duper heavily. hmmmm maybe not after reading his database games | ||
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On March 19 2015 10:26 Alakaslam wrote: rayn has posted. A vote on me that he didn't actually do | ||
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On March 19 2015 18:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: pretty fast read holyflare.  i only skim games to get an overall feel for his posting/angryness and it seems pretty different already | ||
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On March 19 2015 18:48 Breshke wrote: My fave bit of this thread is where sicklucker says he doesn't read the thread as mafia. Then posts this Which is retarded because he was town in the game he was referring to so what is he not reading this thread? This doesn't even make him mafia though it just makes him sicklucker. Also i googled blanda upp. Not sure what I was expecting at least we know this guy isn't reading the thread at all | ||
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On March 19 2015 19:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare are you around for little talks? kind of i guess | ||
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On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon. Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything? probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone | ||
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On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah me too. but let's not talk about more of it yet. Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him. well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful | ||
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On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote: well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful actually no i lied i forgot i moved to vivax | ||
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On March 19 2015 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Please Palmar explain this. You call me probably mafia for "not being dick to you". I answer that i am never dick towards you when i am town, and that it's your job to do that to me if you are scum (yes, that's what my post says and don't you even dare to say you don't understand that). You respond with some smartass comment (which in fact IS being dick towards me) and proceed on calling me mafia. So again, can you show me a game where i am being a dick towards you when i am town Palmar? A game where i start it. I know there are a lot of games where i lose my cool when YOU do this kinda stuff, but that's not relevant. isn't your last paragraph just saying you lose your cool with him lol? | ||
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On March 19 2015 20:42 Palmar wrote: Like it was just a random thought and somehow it has developed into a full scale argument. It makes absolutely no sense that you'd jump this this hard. let's be real now it makes sense in some scenario | ||
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Fecalfeast rsoultin Trfel probably townish Eden1892 (potential to drop) Artanis[Xp] (potential to drop) VisceraEyes (look at later) Bill Murray (feels alright atm) Damdred (look at later, seems happyish enough to me though so maybe up later) meeeeeeehhhhbeeee townish Alakaslam (heavily reevaluate) Vivax (do more work plz) Breshke (probably down to complete null, parroting things already said, even if good things (slam bit was ok though) Palmar meh raynpelikoneet (just asked a lot of questions and starting something stupid with palmar, underwhelming) Onegu (not really read him but opening was funny so maybe up if he plays or not, later++) ExO_ (no idea, don't remember filter atm) LightningStrike (really no idea at the moment, seems okish) Superbia (maybe down a tier?) meh to the extreme Toadesstern sicklucker (should be own category, reads are a load of bollocks but then again, it's sl) | ||
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On March 19 2015 20:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also hf can you tell me why you tr Fecal and Rso? fecal did some diving, looked like he was reading and picking up on things, looked happy/and logical thoughts rsoul pretty much same + found myself agreeing on some things she was saying like being hesitant on ls etc | ||
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and fecal is what it is, it's not like it isn't subject to change | ||
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On March 19 2015 21:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay I have no idea how you read Fecal as town for what he's posted so far. He posted one comment from Horn from what I can see, and with how many times he's rolled VT I'd expect him to be happier as mafia than as town. I also barely see any game related comments to call logical. this isn't strictly true either, it shows he's THINKING about the game, his quote from SL meant that he remembered something to the contrary and brought it to our attention, I think that's pretty towny, especially as he doesn't try and bury sl for it or anything. Then, the miller thing shows he started rereading the game from the start and knows about the roles and picked up on it but not only that, when eden returned he tried to do some trap to catch eden out in a lie. That's super duper towny imo and I like it quite a bit. also pretty carefree | ||
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On March 19 2015 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think anyone should ever use the orb unless they are mafia and claim when they have it asap. everyone should use the orb wtf are you talking about it's super pro town | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:17 Damdred wrote: Well I'm caught up. Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point. Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop. Cooking will be here to answer most questions I'm pretty sure this is on you | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:34 Holyflare wrote: also the fact that he's literally only asking random pointless questions that lead nowhere and then trying to start fake shit REALLY REALLY fake shit with palmar and has all these provisional things like "let me wait for damdred and ask you questions later" crap, it's not solving game it's doing silly things to buy time and blend ^ also this kind of gives me the heebie jeebies about artanis atm too because i feel that he is only asking questions and making obvious posts | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wtf, I've townread like 9 different people all with reasoning, was the first to tr ExO, first to tr Trfel, pointed out the superbia/Trfel thing and we've been having similar thoughts throughout the game. If you actually think I can be mafia this game after Imperial and Student Mafia you are insane, scum, or don't know me very well at all. I've only played a tiny proportion of games with you and that's genuinely how I felt reading your last page or two. It's also not very hard to point out someone has been thinking similar things at all. | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also Rayn might be mafia, yes. no he is 100% without a doubt mafia | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:53 LightningStrike wrote: Okay so Artanis just answered the question while I was making my big post and saying Rayn but HF is backing him up so here my new question directed at both of you: Had both of you played with Mafia!Rayn before and if Yes can you give me a few example posts he makes as Mafia and compared them to some of his posts here? he's not useless as town he's useless here | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd rather give Rayn some more time because putting pressure on Rayn rarely has its intended effect and we're not even half a day in. no i've literally caught him out on something that makes him most definitely mafia, he can bitch and whine all you want and you can relax in the knowledge that he's just still plain old mafia and we are guaranteed a mafia lynch today so sheep me | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:18 Trfel wrote: And you're more sure about this than your previous reads on Alakaslam and sicklucker? my slam read was a misunderstanding and i've put him on the down lo for now, sicklucker is just sicklucker and makes no sense whatsoever at all so it's impossible to be sure on him so i've also given him some time to actually do something productive and post things that aren't a defence | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: No you haven't, he's just been pretty useless so far. Piling on him is just going to make him mad and be guaranteed unproductive for the rest of the day and shit up the thread. If he's still unproductive by the time we approach deadline I'm happy to vote him but not until then. well you can sit there twiddling your thumbs all day thinking like this but i'm telling you I HAVE caught him on something that makes him definitely mafia, rayn is NOT a useless player, he pretty much called out mafia in his last town game within the first few times he was posting, there is nothing productive whatsoever he's just been pretty useless so far ^ this is not something you should EVER attribute to town rayn at any point in time | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:27 Trfel wrote: Which is exactly what mafia!Artanis[Xp] would want to do with suspicion on mafia!raynpelikoneet. I see why town!Artanis[Xp] would do exactly what you just did. And I think the chance that my comment actually means something isn't all that high. I'm just saying it to make sure I don't forget. When I miss something and it costs me the game (in this case, lost the game at 5p LYLO due to this), I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake again. i'll never forget for you buddy | ||
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On March 19 2015 23:29 Vivax wrote: You say yourself that FF telling you it's a fake claim was the point where you hesitated on Eden for a slight moment, but obviously you must have already TRd him before, and you TR him after, and you decided for yourself that the claim was nothing serious. Trfel argued in a way that would fit your own narrative (Eden town + fakeclaim not alignment indicative), so being suspicious of him for saying Eden's post was a joke doesn't make sense. Your only way of justifying that question to Trfel was saying that the fakeclaim made you doubt him, and here I smell a lie to make that question to Trfel look like it made sense at that moment, when it really didn't, unless you already decided to go after Trfel for other reasons, but then you wouldn't feel like calling out things like these to try and nail him in something that looks scummy. wait wait so explain this to me sup town reads eden and bla bla ff points out miller thing and trfel defends it superbia says that trfel is weird says it's not so weird because he hesitated on same point is that right? | ||
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On March 20 2015 00:30 rsoultin wrote: i'm not getting strong town vibes from rayn either, tbh like i have certain ways of reading him when he's town xP that kind of fall in line with HF's "useless" claim, as well as a general way for both him and HF and basically any other player who would be good at scum lol involving pointless shitfights xP like i initially townread HF based on his fluidity while in the middle of the argument with slam cause he'll carry arguments on forever as scum whether they're important or not xP regarding rayn, i'm just not sure if his push at palmar was a pointless shitfight just yet. he seems to have gotten nothing from it. anyway lol, i think HF is better at reading rayn than most of the other players here (at least of my townreads) so he needs to come back and talk to me >< it's a pointless shit fight based on a lie | ||
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he's going to come back here call me mafia or something/keep on palmar and like trash talk all the posts I made gonna rage for a bit going to try and resemble a bit of town play and make people unvote him i'm going leave it totally alone and just yell for people to switch at deadline accurate representation of rayn in a few minutes/hours: ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/18ALWngczIFzi/giphy.gif) | ||
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On March 19 2015 12:20 Toadesstern wrote: from JoaT: not really offended but annoyed. I thought he was town early on doing it on purpose to start some discussion or get some read from me based on how I'd react if he misreads me again like that, so yeah I got annoyed at the possible idea of having to deal with that again because he might make someone else agree with it... Right know I'm pretty sure he's mafia for keeping at it and knowing that it annoys me. Can some of the guys who think my tone is so awful and completly different this game please go ahead and at least compare that post above with my first post in here instead of just believing all this about how my tone is completly different? Props for nailing it on my seriousness though LS. Because yeah, that did change, just not the thing Palmar and HF mentioned. I dunno in the quote it's different in joat isn't it? | ||
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On March 19 2015 20:57 Holyflare wrote: and toad if you read this don't defend your shit just scum hunt plz | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:27 Toadesstern wrote: read his fucking reasoning. He said "Toad is mafia for using the word guyses and not formatting like he did last time" That's literally been his words. I quote: now stop taking things out of context um you are blind, maybe you should read the thread | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:03 Palmar wrote: It's weaker. I guess I was wrong that he wouldn't use the word guyses, apparently he's simply not a viable human being. But the point still stands that was a half-assed "vote me major" entrance compared to the last one in hammertime. On March 20 2015 01:07 Holyflare wrote: it's worse because he actually changed the opening? and he doesn't even just quote it with colours and everything On March 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote: I dunno in the quote it's different in joat isn't it? | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:32 Toadesstern wrote: there's no coloring in the Joat one. Literally no coloring at all. Also no formatting. Also I change them everytime. I never copy & paste those posts but do them roughly the same but I'm sure you know that because I have about 15 posts like that, that all read like that and they're all slightly different because I copy&pasted none other than the general structure of it. look dude i just don't really care to be honest, your post seemed off and I thought it was too forced but then you said it was copy and pasted so then it meant nothing but now you're just wasting time all game on palmar just like you did in cultured to geript and it's bugging me so stop it and move on, we know you scum read palmar now, thanks for the information | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Damdred is mafia because his scumreads are: 1) a guy he has had a read on before he can have a read on them, apparently now he agrees with what guy another person is scummy but still this guy has said nothing in value 2) another guy who scumread a third guy for the same reasons he did ##vote Damdred explain the bolded really just explain both because this is a badly worded post | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:41 Toadesstern wrote: so stop fucking bringing up the stupid coloring or formating that I've already shown to be bullshit. I was doing just fine when you left the thread yesterday and did my thing reading up on LS & Palmar and now you're just keeping at it. I know you don't like my Palmar read but that doesn't mean I'm not doing anything. I'm not going to keep on harping about it. I made my point and that's why I made that one big post with the [*big] tags in it. Next guy to look into is Artanis followed up by you if you for just a second stop bugging me. look at rayn first plz <3 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully. | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I meant i find it odd Holyflare and Artanis say you are mafia for completely opposite reasons and there is no confrontation between them for it. Like i am not sure if it's important but it's a good point i find interesting. Also you focusing onto other stuff momentarily is a towntell. then you just aren't reading the thread at all because i most definitely already called him potential mafia | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:54 Toadesstern wrote: I honestly find it more daming for HF atm because he ended up doing a lot of "you're mafia so whatever you say shows that you're mafia" like that entire formating & color thing but he's apparently town... so yeah chances are Artanis was trying to agree and parot along while not realising that he used the exact opposite of what HF was getting at only to come to the same conclusion? hey dude i never said that's why you're mafia at all i just said it was weird | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:55 Toadesstern wrote: you just said you have different problems with Artanis though, implying what I mentioned about him disagreeing with you yet comming to the same conclusion isn't one of them? no, it's in the thread, my problem was much the same problem I had with rayn that he said absolutely nothing that wasn't easy and asked multiple questions that ended up absolutely nowhere, also his list I didn't like very much | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure you did not do it because of what Toad said in his post, amiright? Or if i am not feel free to show me which of your posts say or even imply so. i think his play is poop and i'm not interested in individual aspects so much | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:38 Eden1892 wrote: holyflare bro why don't i know you're lock-town yet? bear in mind i haven't read everything and don't plan to. why should i have you as lock-town rn because your list is wrong, you should have me as town seeing as my list like 10 hours ago is basically yours | ||
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On March 20 2015 14:51 Eden1892 wrote: so is our list still the same then or what holybro actually go read the thing with superbia i just had and tell me if i'm retarded or if i'm getting somewhere then we can worry about lists seemed somewhat trivial | ||
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Fecalfeast rsoultin Trfel Eden1892 ExO_ (read his database, pretty consistent) probably townish Palmar Bill Murray (FELT alright, very very likely to drop soon, many inactivity excuses) Damdred (look at later, seemed happy but is kind of under pressure and behaving in odd ways, i don't know though) meeeeeeehhhhbeeee townish Artanis[Xp] (meeeeeeeehhhhhhhhbe down, keep looking at) Alakaslam (heavily reevaluate, KEEP HEAVILY RE-EVALUATING THE NOTHINGNESS) Vivax Breshke (still hmmmmmmmmish but not meh) VisceraEyes (tempted to drop, depends if he actually does more playing and not just talking about things) meh raynpelikoneet ( Onegu ( )LightningStrike (really no idea at the moment, seems okish????????? still big ???????) Superbia (still meh) Toadesstern (potential to move up! maybe not if he keeps talking about this artanis/me thing though because arriving at the same conclusion for opposite reasons means nothing unless you ask questions to those people and try and figure it out instead of just pointing at it with a stick from afar like some old man) meh to the extreme sicklucker (should be own category, reads are a load of bollocks but then again, it's sl.... MUCH INACTIVITY SINCE THEN AND FULFILLING HIS OWN INACTIVITY QUOTA) | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:10 Fecalfeast wrote: does it include daydreams? + Show Spoiler + alakaslam is mafia. someone once said that if slam is not having fun he's mafia. Does this slam look like he's having fun? bro... did you even read the start of the game lol??? | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:24 Eden1892 wrote: oh they added a fifth dimension, neat wait how are assertive and turbulent opposites? assertive - unwavering turbulent - wtfamidoing | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote: My reads are the best in the game hf... you lost your townread Like how do you guys not see that dandred is mafia? Do you not play mafia with him? When he leads hes town when he lurks and sits on the sideline hes mafia its not hard when did I say anything about your reads? I just said you were a confirmed liar | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:27 Fecalfeast wrote: idk sometimes I get infp and other times i get istp maybe I have multiple personalities that's what the other ff said | ||
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"he does it all the time as town!" "he did it as mafia in that game and I caught him lying because I knew he'd emulate his town miller stuff as mafia! even though I was mafia and he's only done it as town... I knew..........." -.- | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:31 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- i don't read him the same way y'all do? most people scumread him for inconsistencies or phrasing (or fucking punctuation) or something arbitrary like that. his reads are mostly meta in his list post xP and i thought he was asking you for evidence for your rayn read from other mafia games with rayn, which is by definition meta? lol for me it's as simple as him commenting on things, asking what other people think, engaging and responding quickly to questions :/ there's a natural way about him as town that isn't there when he's scum yeh meta, no meta on me though and asking if he should sheep me is weird if he doesn't have that meta read at all | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:25 LightningStrike wrote: I just got home and Superbia is scumreading me for not being here T_T Also I saw Trfel and Eden claimed Mafia and I thinking they just trolling knowing that Eden loves to troll as Town and Trfel being a newish player I don't think he would pull a Damdred. Also saw HF made a meta point about Slam being Mafia but I can't read Slam for shit since after Carol when I read him right. Should I sheep your thing on Slam HF? | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:33 sicklucker wrote: it was my opinion . An opinion that mattered because he did the same thing. Its not a brag I would have brought it up postgame not now... yes, you tried to use it to see if eden slipped and i'm telling you that your logic about it is bad | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:37 sicklucker wrote: Is that a slip? Because if im trying to see if he slipped that makes me town right..? ......? I don't even know how you reach this conclusion | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:39 sicklucker wrote: You just called me town hf. Because if im mafia I know hes town and if it's bad logic why does that stop you being mafia? you need to push bad logic to throw dirt on people as mafia? | ||
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On March 20 2015 15:54 sicklucker wrote: Because rayn did research and defended me seems dumb to do as mafia that's exactly what mafia do, counter popular opinion because you know it's wrong >_> | ||
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On March 20 2015 20:41 Vivax wrote: Why don't you care? What are you and your mason partner doing, provided your claim is real? me and onegu just chilling man, calm your tits | ||
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On March 20 2015 21:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Like Holy this looks EXACTLY like townRayn trying to solve the game. He's trying to break down someone's thought process to figure out if it makes sense and to him it doesn't. This is hard to emulate as mafia. it's not hard and he's mafia | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: My D1 filter this game is already longer than that of my best mafia games D1 and we're not even at EOD yet. I'm pretty much confirmed town to anyone that knows how much I despise playing mafia, especially considering I rolled mafia 2/3 times in last 3 games. Exactly what a try harding mafia artanis would say. | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:51 Onegu wrote: My mason has you in his town pile so you are in mine! Shhhhhhhdhdhhdjfjf don'truin my list | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like it's pretty fucking clear why both of Superbia and LS are mafia. any time we want to lynch this guy is cool | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah this game is so awful, then there are people like rsoultin who just sit on their asses with like a 100 page filter ignoring everything relevant in thread. Yeah she is scum too. And Holyflare who contradicts himself all the time and apparently has nothing to do but to call me mafia for shit reasons. But probably not scum, just idiot. Like, i don't care. I am never voting Vivax here. I am never voting for anyone other than LS, Superbia, or rsoultin. If someone else is going to get lynched and i am the counterwagon i will vote for myself to prove a point. I don't really want to play this game any more. Shouldn't join big games because they are shit anyways. where have i contradicted myself at all? | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:21 LightningStrike wrote: Hi Holyflare any thoughts on Damdred's case on Vivax? nah not really, it was okish | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:24 Vivax wrote: FYI, only HF's cases are good cases. + Show Spoiler + when you ask him i sheep sometimes :O | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:35 sicklucker wrote: Thats a terrible reason because literally anyone can be busy irl but we still have to play around it. Anyway I might take off seems to be going in circles everyone is a asking for there lynch damdred would have a special exception in this case so fu | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:39 rsoultin wrote: ??? sooooo we're worried that he's doing what he said he would and saying that's alignment indicative lol? dunno that was like 4 hours ago + i missed it anyway | ||
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On March 21 2015 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: excuse me but who is a broken record here? not me because i've reevaluated everyone multiple times (you can see my lists) and you're still bottom bro | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:53 Damdred wrote: That took more time then I thought. Comment on it, I have a few chores to do now i'll be back soon On March 21 2015 01:44 rsoultin wrote: o.0 that can't have been 4 hours ago lol maybe 1 but regardless, the point stands. if he doesn't come back maybe discussing him dropping a case and not staying to talk is valid xP 3 hours but whatever, the point is I missed it :D | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Well I don't like it cause it's the usual meta argument where people expect you to play exactly the same in every game, it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to rayn. People can change their styles, maybe rayn has become more considerate? I know mafia rayn as being more disruptive than town rayn so if I made the same observations as Toad I'd argue in the opposite direction. how is it just solely based on meta and an exaggeration? if you get rid of the meta then it just leaves rayn has reads and he isn't driving them home like he should be and isn't really doing anything | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:23 Vivax wrote: Artanis too srs for my taste. On March 21 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Well I don't like it cause it's the usual meta argument where people expect you to play exactly the same in every game, it doesn't apply to me, it doesn't apply to rayn. People can change their styles, maybe rayn has become more considerate? I know mafia rayn as being more disruptive than town rayn so if I made the same observations as Toad I'd argue in the opposite direction. | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:25 Vivax wrote: I have reads too and people aren't falling to their knees when I post reasons for these reads, there's only so much you can do when they don't listen. You are in the same spot. You have a scumread on rayn and only few people willing to pile up, does this make you the same as rayn? i'm not really doing much to push rayn at all so that's the reason really? | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:26 Damdred wrote: Sorry guys really busy irl don't scun read me or vote for me. And kinda depressed so be nice while I'm gone (( feel better damdy! | ||
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On March 21 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote: you do realize that none of your case actually makes me scum, right? lol - emoticons - fluff - aggravatingly arrogant/annoying xP please do ask if for some reason you don't understand why i'm scumreading rayn despite reading my filter Why are you scum reading rayn? Dude is towniest in the thread. | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:25 Toadesstern wrote: we don't want it to resolve in the night... why would you want a possible mafiaVig to shoot Because bm mafia and could be a role | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:28 Vivax wrote: I'll shoot who the hell I please, I'm not your puppet. Yeh ok die | ||
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On March 21 2015 06:29 Superbia wrote: Mafia just "RB" the vig shooting mafia and let the town shot go through. This only works if we 100% find two mafia to fire upon. Who the fuck cares get rid of peripheral shit people doing nothing | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote: HF. Give me a small push more and I'll vote on BM. Are you familiar with his meta? Also what do you think of having a wagon on SL or LS? Stop this shit. Vote bm. Who cares about his meta. I'm pretty surw he's spammy town and lurky mafia though | ||
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On March 20 2015 01:22 Holyflare wrote: spent far too long on this | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: But if we don't kill between vivax/toad today it'll probably still be going on tomorrow as mafia has perfect information on this thing and we don't. Seems to make more sense to resolve it today. Whwt the fuck no. You're stupuf or mafia get out. They are forced to shoot who we want. There is absolutely no downside. | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:31 Vivax wrote: Like HF, your arguments on BM are overshadowed by everything that has been going on besides that. It's a fart in the wind That's why you are one of the shittiest egos here | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: [/b]Vivax is town Toad is mafia. [b9TOAD HAS A SCUMREAD ON ME WHICH HE CAN'T HAVE BECAUSE HE HASN'T READ THE THREAD!!! Are you all fucking obtuse!?!?!? Another shitter ego who thinks there ks only 1 mafis | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 1 mafia vig and 1 mafia rber and we're fucked, tell me how your grand master plan works then. Mafia shoots who we want?? Profit???? | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: And the one that isn't mafia gets rbed and we end up wondering if they're just getting framed or not and waste another day on that. stop perpetuating this bull shit, right now we have this info: vivax claimed vig with like 2 hours to go???? toad claimed vig in response to vivax????? could be 2 town vigis, could be mafia vigi and town vigi, could be whatever??? NO INFORMATION TO GO ON AT ALL day 2 discussion: hey look people died, more info, MORE TALKING WHRE PEOPLE AREN'T IRRATIONAL TITS FULL OF ADRENALINE AT DEADLINE people take stances, stances are GREAT i also have a shit tonne of new scum reads based on this bm wagon now, there were SO MANY PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND JOINING AT SAME TIME <----------- classic mafia tell | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:29 Toadesstern wrote: what if I shoot you in the dick for starting this crap then you're a fucking moron and deserve to be lynched for it, bm was a good lynch | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Vivax was about to get lynched. If he didn't claim something he died. If he's mafia, that's the point - to not die. I don't know why you're dismissing this as possible. not at that length of time, would think he'd wait till later to cause confusion and avoid discussion, he also wasn't that bad during the day imo | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote: HF what makes me curious is who you think is scum on the BM wagon as I suspect the scum to be entirely on my wagon. go to deadline, look at people saying this is awful but coming along anyway, I saw quite a few, can't remember names though i'll have a check when i'm in | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh so you don't think the last two hours of the day were confusing? LMAO 2 vigs screaming at each other, a tracker claim out of nowhere, and then lynching a borderline modkill. I think the claim caused more confusion than you're saying he would have caused at EoD. Plus at EoD there's the possiblility of people going "LOL look at the desperation claim NOPE!" it wasn't really confusing to be honest you just summed it up in 2 sentences so it's obviously not | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:37 VisceraEyes wrote: Because as blue Vivax knows how to not get lynched without claiming. And he also knows to claim before he's a leading lynch candidate. Or at least I think he does. Maybe he doesn't. :O this isn't true I pushed vivax in cultured and he was the lynch and he claimed vigi there too just the same iirc | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:38 ExO_ wrote: No? why don't you go lynch some random BM instead of solving this chaotic mess? Was such a horrible idea. And now HF wants both to live, causing more chaos. playing Russian roulette would be better than listening to him exo, stop discrediting me, explain how this is causing more chaos, be rational with me, don't baselessly defame me | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote: We ended up on a modkill - that means that there was no clear direction and no one's REAL candidates were even being discussed. That's confusing HF, and that you're representing otherwise is scummy as hell. nobody ever gets modkilled for inactivty and he wasn't a modkill, I got valid points across and he looked liek mafia because of them, I think directing all vigi shoots is nothing but pro town regardless if one of them is mafia or not, 2 directed vig shots with 1 basically guaranteed to go through is undeniably good we are essentially controlling mafia | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:42 VisceraEyes wrote: I will give you that your points on BM were semi valid. The problem with them is that none of them actually made him mafia and he didn't particularly look like mafia from when he was posting. Ugh....I really wish we'd sacked up and lynched one of the vigs. With Palmar and rayn on Toad I thought I was safe to go have dinner with the family. GUESS NOT!! well to be fair im pretty intoixicated and i didn't like ppl yelling and wanted to control 2 vig shots cz power trip/dominant stuff | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:38 Holyflare wrote: this isn't true I pushed vivax in cultured and he was the lynch and he claimed vigi there too just the same iirc On March 21 2015 08:45 Vivax wrote: Otherwise just look it up in my filter. There was a similar game with scum HF where I was vig as well and I built in references to getting rid of him as well. Funny thing is that HF was actually scum that game lol (the one where he bussed suki D1, scooby doo etc.) | ||
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On March 21 2015 09:00 ExO_ wrote: What if rb believes you (stupidly) and blocks toad? or worse there is a mafia RB? its pretty obvious how "this line of logic" works just don't block any of the vigi shots if you are town...? look even if there is a MAFIA rb we direct BOTH shots to people of OUR choosing, worst case mafia rb's the one shooting mafia and let's a town die but that town will be a decision WE have made because we think they are scummy. We effectively gain another lynch here at night any of the vigis that don't follow this plan are automatically claiming mafia because it should be more than obvious there is a very real chance there is 2 town vigi's since kp on vigis was changed in op and balanced for more people toad at the preesnt moment is claiming mafia | ||
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On March 21 2015 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: you just called me and vivax town a couple minutes ago. You're just afraid to get shot in the dick and trying to make me shoot rayn by scare-tactics. Sorry, I am reading the thread. i said you felt towny but you're trying to throw away the game with your rage baby | ||
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On March 21 2015 09:37 ExO_ wrote: when we wake up day 2 and both vivax and toad are alive, I think HF, rsoultin, palmar, and ryan should apologize to town. How short sighted to assume both of them are just going to shoot each other without anybody else interferring. i... want both vivax and toad to be town, are you even reading what i'm writing at all? | ||
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On March 21 2015 16:38 sicklucker wrote: Hf is a player that will always make a counter wagon if he thinks a team mate is in trouble. If vivax flips scum I would look long and hard at him name a game as town where I haven't pushed a counter wagon because you KNOW this is bs hts in void w/e that guy was that was mafia when rayn killed mafia in mini mafia mini mini thing etc etc etc the list is endless | ||
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On March 21 2015 16:43 sicklucker wrote: Hf which do you think is real btw? read the thread, I said both did believable things and there could well be 2 town vigis | ||
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On March 21 2015 16:49 ExO_ wrote: So you really think they're both town is the more likely scenario here? And if not, which one is lying? And now what's gonna happen if they both live through until tomorrow? What's the plan to deal with it then? completely ignore it and find the other mafia because that's only one out of seemingly possible 5 | ||
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On March 21 2015 16:52 sicklucker wrote: I just thought of something. Its absolutely incorrect for the veggies to shoot each other if theres a chance there both town. If there plan is to shoot each other then neither dies like 100% of the time if ones mafia. (theres always going to be a roleblocker in a big game like this.) So it might just be better to shoot who they think is scummy and mafia will be wifmoed not knowing to rb them. And if thereboth town we can kill mafia no they shoot who we want, nothing else | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least. @Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? if you've caught up and say I look bad for lynching bm then why don't you know my reasons for lynching bm? what if they were awesome reasons? | ||
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On March 21 2015 17:03 ExO_ wrote: Are you kidding me? It's almost certain 1 of the 2 is lying and you want to ignore it? yes | ||
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You now have 0 budget to fight crime and 2 terrorist suspects were actually good citizens all along. OR You can put those terrorist suspects in jail for a bit and interrogate them a little during the time you spend your allotted budget on finding those jihad/ISIS training camps and shutting them down. Tackling the root cause and getting all of the real terrorists. I'd much rather spend my budget on eradicating the unknown threat than executing 2 potentially good guys | ||
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On March 21 2015 17:07 ExO_ wrote: Fuck why even find the mafia, let's just kill off all the town and then we'll know for sure who the mafia are. why are you so angry? is there only 1 mafia in the game that you're capable of processing or what? | ||
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why do people have to be divided and instead do actual scum hunting and not a random crap shoot in the dark? why can't you base it off their play d2 and not their vigi actions or their claims? like I said, are you incapable of actual scum hunting and why can't you just ignore them despite one of them being obviously mafia to you? Who are the other mafia? | ||
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On March 21 2015 17:34 ExO_ wrote: If I knew that, I'd tell you right now and we wouldn't have much of a game. Right now most of who I think is mafia comes from what happened at the end of the day. And I realize it might not be the best thing to base my opinion on, and should reevaluate. But I think Vivax is the top of my scum list. Then Rsoultin/Palmar because I don't agree with the vote switching they did. There are players like Breshke who seemed hella inactive then hopped on that wagon that are also suspicious as well. And then there's you for starting the whole "kill BM" thing which I really think was asinine. this is absolutely the best thing to base it on tbh? and i'm not mafia for providing good reasons to switch a wagon when I was drunk | ||
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On March 21 2015 20:32 Vivax wrote: To make it REALLY sit in your heads, I'll rephrase it again: what he said was 1. Vivax isn't scum and Damdred's case was exaggerated. Believe claim. Toad CCs 2. Two vigs are very possible in the game. 3. Toad wouldn't CC as scum so the claim is real 4. Superbia is right that two vigs are possible but Vivax could be a good lynch 5. I will vote Vivax cause he still attacks Toad, but townies could do it too. 6. Vivax mafia cause he said there can be multiple vigis As you see he jumped on the wagon after TRing me, and he did that right after arguing that Toad's claim is legit. i like this but i also liked trfel so i'm conflicted | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least. @Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? not sure I can handle this though | ||
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On March 21 2015 21:25 Palmar wrote: Like BM was definitely doing the BM thing (if anyone is super interested I can dig up links). I know of course it's terrible meta but I've been super busy and not really on top of this game, not to mention we've written 150+ pages in 48 hours so keeping up is always gonna be a nightmare anyway. maybe if you weren't such a filty spammer it would be more readable | ||
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On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch. if you thought this then why on earth did you ask me a question about why i wanted to lynch bm!?!?!?!? you should KNOW why i wanted to lynch bm if you think it looked like carol???????????????? | ||
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On March 21 2015 22:00 rsoultin wrote: oh, i lied slam is bugging me...does his reaction make sense to anyone? cause it doesn't to me -_- no it doesn't at all | ||
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On March 22 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote: Their reasons for switching is scummy that what I mean -_- Palmar never really mentioned BM in his filter at all and so did Rayn as far I remember reading their filters. nobody really in this entire game has mentioned bm | ||
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On March 22 2015 00:39 Holyflare wrote: nobody really in this entire game has mentioned bm and why does it matter if they mentioned him or not? why does that make them 100% mafia or whatever you said? | ||
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On March 22 2015 00:40 Vivax wrote: You literally TR me then decide Toad has to be town then that I have to be scum, in a timing where it was possible for you to pick one over the other. You threw all your reasoning away you presented previously to hop on my convenient wagon. buddy in a normal game if someone claims blue and someone else cc's them who do you believe? | ||
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On March 22 2015 00:41 Holyflare wrote: buddy in a normal game if someone claims blue and someone else cc's them who do you believe? but i don't know why you're twisting your original reason of him thinking there were 2 town vigis and then suddenly not to this ^^^ | ||
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Also. Why are you saying my push on bm is scummy WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES???? That just boggles my mind. | ||
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On March 22 2015 01:30 Trfel wrote: The Bill Murray push was bad. Do you want to argue with this? If I were to scumread anyone right now, it would be you and several of the people that followed your wagon. Why does the Bill Murray lynch make you town? I don't see that logic, unless you're treating Vivax and Toadesstern as extremely likely to be town. It wasn't actually bad by conventional lynch standards. Obviously he flipped town and it was bad but it's easy to call it bad after the matter. What was bad about it? Like I just don't understand. How on earth can you say you wanted to search for other wagons than vivax/toad but then scum read me for pushing other wagons?????? | ||
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but I brought up all these reasons before the lynch (well vivax being towny before obv) and theorised that they both could be town so why am I scummy for thinking what you do before you do? it just makes me smarter | ||
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On March 22 2015 01:48 Eden1892 wrote: what's scummy about those two things? i interpret this simply to mean that he thinks BM was town and is trying to make you explain why you thought otherwise because I posted all of my reasons for lynching bm in the thread at the time...........? honestly I thought he was towny at the start (you can see it in my list) went to go get drunk saw mass hysteria and wanted a new target because both claims pretty townyish remembered the multiple afk excuses and that bm was lurky as fuck so just thought he would be better, especially intoxicated but the thing is i made all my reasons very clear in the thread so why would he need to ask for my reasons to lynch BM? it just looks like a pointless question for the sake of asking a question | ||
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On March 22 2015 01:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Who should the vigs shoot Holyflare? You cited that as reasoning for not voting for Toad or Vivax, what's the verdict? I know after making that plan I should be putting in the work to follow it through but like...................................................................... meh? :D :D :D :D D: | ||
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On March 22 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Toad was suspicious of Palmar hard all day yesterday and then in the end all he did was scream about lynching Vivax. Even while a wagon built on someone that wasn't either one of them, he screamed about Vivax instead of Palmar. I think he bussed Palmar earlier on in the day and then saw an opportunity to back off it. Time to make him put his chips on the table. I think Vivax is town, and I think you're town, and I think rayn is town, and everyone seems to think LS is mafia. So I want Vivax to shoot LS. there's so many god damn null people | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:48 ExO_ wrote: You haven't made hardly an impression on me, and you didn't vote for BM. Should I have you on my scum list? Brooo is this some kind of joke? | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:51 ExO_ wrote: What? I'm not going to ignore the 2 vigi thing. We could've resolved it but you derailed it. You had nothing to do with the claims, so how in the world did you perpetuate it? You're scum reading me for pushing the wagons off of the 2 vigilante claims. That's only scummy if I perpetuate it and make the discussion only revolve around the 2 vigi claims. Which really absolutely only you is doing. You're also ignoring everything in the thread and you don't even know about me and onegu | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:05 ExO_ wrote: I don't think there's a mafia vig? I think Vivax slipped revealed there isn't a mafia vig, and he just fake claimed vig. That sounds like thw worst plan I've ever heard | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:54 Holyflare wrote: You're scum reading me for pushing the wagons off of the 2 vigilante claims. That's only scummy if I perpetuate it and make the discussion only revolve around the 2 vigi claims. Which really absolutely only you is doing. You're also ignoring everything in the thread and you don't even know about me and onegu On March 22 2015 03:56 Holyflare wrote: Like exo i want you to fully reason out your read on me. Why was my push on bm bad and why does it make me mafia? What was I trying ti achieve? | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:20 Holyflare wrote: you posted about 1 time in the hour after the cc and then didn't even make any effort to bring a lynch back to your target and twiddled your thumbs so why is it my fault exactly that you failed to get bm not lynched and your target lynched? doesn't that make you the bad one? 4-5 times* but yes, you made no effort to do any shit around the actual deadline | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:26 Toadesstern wrote: Sorry guys had a shitty day, stuff happened, no time for TL. Were there suggestions on what to shoot? If not I'd like to suggest a Holyflare shot. Trust me guys I know what I'm doing so then it's onegu too? | ||
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I'm a big mafia threat. Toad is posing that he scum reads me so that when his shot goes off at night and I die, massive mafia threat (me) gets eliminated it just looks like he's a vig shooting his target. Really though, he's probably mafia. | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:32 Toadesstern wrote: just said I'm shooting Onegu. But I like you for comming to the same conclusion that I am and proving that you're actually thinking o/ shooting a mason that claimed and was confirmed by me in the middle of the day before any of the other claims isn't my idea of thinking | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:34 Eden1892 wrote: well this whole scenario basically confirms HF and Onegu town even harder let's look at this situation and assume HF is mafia - Toad and Vivax both claim vig - Either one is mafia or neither are - If one is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch Toad to save his partner Vivax and instead lynched vt OR he passed on the chance to lynch Vivax to save his partner Toad and instead lynched vt and now his partner is threatening to shoot him - If neither is mafia then HF passed on the chance to lynch a town vig to lynch vt in no world does that make sense i already said all that | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:34 Onegu wrote: Meh I'm fine with this i'll make sure it's sorted at deadline don't worry bro | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare pls go read my filter if i die. Or someone. Vivax. VE. You are bright ppl. And i can''t play other than by phone tonight bcz i am not home. k | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:35 Toadesstern wrote: I'm honeslty not sure if HF is just raging right now and has a blackout because of that or what's going on. Or maybe it's reverse psychology and he IS thinking trying to help me ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha die | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:43 Eden1892 wrote: like i am dead serious vivax please do not shoot toad. i am pretty sure he is town despite this silliness fiery vengeance WILL occur if onegu gets shot FIERY he is my luigi ![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/kLEuIxZJh8VG0/giphy.gif) | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:47 Toadesstern wrote: I'm sorry, like I said I had a rough day. Little Sister got home in tears with troubles and that was more important than TL for me today and thus no posting from me. I understand that you're mad but you need to calm down for sec and kickstart your brain or give it a rest and come back 30 minutes when you calmed down a little. kickstart my brain................? you are the one that wants to shoot masons | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:49 sicklucker wrote: I know only one of you are really a mason because it would be really retarded if you both claimed for no reason. Be very careful with whoever the one who is faking being your partner. stfu | ||
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On March 22 2015 04:30 Holyflare wrote: yes i'm seeing that now/most of the game also that artanis post I forgot about because i read while taking a shit but it wasn't very good at all especially going on host wifom (like wtf seriously? bh is king rng and he's trying to host wifom, looks like a tmi thing) | ||
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On March 22 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yo guys, just got back from a long ass capoeira session. First of all, sorry to hear that LS. Second, Damdred, you seem to have forgotten the thing about Trfel/Superbia early on where they both asked how many mafia players are playing in this game. I still believe that tell to be valid. I also know I'm town so your team is guaranteed to be wrong. I also think that shooting into "unknowns" is terrible unless they don't post a lot. I've given plenty of info to read into, so I should either be lynched or kept alive but never shot by a town vig. So as to who I think you might be wrong on: Rayn and VE come to mind. Your current team lacks a lot of vet power, and though it's possible RNG made it that way, Host WIFOM dictates that there's probably at least one strong player in the mafia team. Rayn's claim can easily be bullshit. I dunno if scum can have a tracker but he can just unclaim it anytime anyway and it'd be just one more Rayn fakeclaim. I've given VE a peripheral townread for his tone but I seem to be getting too many townreads, and that was one of the weakest ones. I'm not sure what you saw in VE's filter that truly made you read him town, but I have not been convinced by him this game. I had to taunt him into actually going into his read on me and he hasn't pushed his opinions at all despite them being in conflict with town consensus (such as his Fecal scumread which no one agreed upon, yet he never tried to convince anyone). I think one of the two is probably scum and I'll spend some time digging into them once I'm a bit rested. this post for reference Not only is the wifom ridiculously strong but he makes assumptions based off of it and also adds rayn fake claiming for no reason whatsoever. His only mafia reads are a claimed blue and ve who isn't actually that bad looking | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote: Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum what on earth.........? like seriously what???? | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:04 Holyflare wrote: this post for reference Not only is the wifom ridiculously strong but he makes assumptions based off of it and also adds rayn fake claiming for no reason whatsoever. His only mafia reads are a claimed blue and ve who isn't actually that bad looking i really just want you to shoot artanis for this post plz | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Just went through Rayn's filter in his last two scumgames and compared them with his last towngame as well as this one. One thing I noticed as I scrolled through them was that Mafia Rayn tunnels a lot more than town Rayn. Another thing was that Scum Rayn never really gave out list posts or reads on the overall field whereas Town Rayn had more of an overview of the field. This game I feel like Rayn's attention has been going from person to person which would be much more in line with his Town game. you mean like the last game where rayn afk tunneled on 1 guy the entirety of day 1 as town????? i don't believe you | ||
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On March 19 2015 03:59 Half the Sky wrote: Those of you clamouring for certain roles this game, I leave you with this quote from BH in Horn of Africa: | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He voted Toad. Toad is Town. He also came back almost instantly after the deadline whilst being afk on the time leading up to it which is pretty highly sketch. if you think toad is town and i presume you think vivax is town because you didn't scum read him in your host wifom then why on earth was rayn in your list when he was on the bm lynch????? | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not why i am scumreading you. I am sorry if i am being a dick here for not explaining further. I just decided i would be "a dick" this game becaude noone reads what i write. i do bro, i've been reading all along | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because with two big wagons all mafia are always on one wagon right??????? ...................... when there's 2 town vig claims mafia wants to move to that afk vt claim right....? pretty sure rayn was a key person to vote switch too | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:37 Holyflare wrote: he could have just afk'd on toad and vivax would still die in fact i'm almost certain he'd rather do that as mafia | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Because afking at deadline never looks bad later on, especially when you're always there at deadlines. I'm not denying it makes him look better but it's far from the confirmed town story you're trying to present it as. this is nothing to do with rayn and everything to you not being analytical in the slightest when it came to your scum read rayn | ||
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i aint throwing no games bro | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:45 Vivax wrote: Artanis I thought of a similar argument for VE. He afk voted Toad during deadline and came back telling us we all suck, which was my main jist with him at the start of the night. Now you're telling me scum didn't afk vote? hah | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm posting in a stream of consciousness, I'm sorry I didn't consider every single fact. Point me to a towngame where I do that and I will give you a round of applause. you discredited everything damd said and talked about host wifom balancing and said his reads weren't good and gave a list of your mafia reads (rayn and ve) but now you're telling me you aren't considering the facts when damdred was and he's the wrong one? | ||
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On March 22 2015 05:48 Superbia wrote: HF, what are your thoughts on the two vigi targets for tonight? Do we have them down already? slam and x | ||
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and when I say pretty concerned I mean he's very likely mafia :/ | ||
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I also like this from slam. Him and Hf are going at it and slam tries to bring other peoples opinions into it. Feels more townie because if he is town he doesn't have the fear of people analyzing his posts. Can't read slam for shit though so not putting much into this other than I wouldn't vote for him Which is retarded because he was town in the game he was referring to so what is he not reading this thread? This doesn't even make him mafia though it just makes him sicklucker. This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people. also scum read sl for... no idea? after saying he is confusing his posts just don't say anything and I feeeeeeeeel like his town game has more direction than this from a cursory glance at his past games | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:01 Superbia wrote: I don't know. I felt like he very well may be mafia, but he seemed to have thoughts similar to mine at EoD. I'm not ready to defend him, but idk. His interaction with SL, who I think is scum, seems to indicate possible team mates. Like Breshke flips on SL (town -> mafia) as the wagon on SL comes to a full stop. Breshke is supposed to have the greatest read ever on SL (according to SL) and SL doesn't even give a shit about the flip. Hell, Breshke isn't even interested in getting SL lynched (what did he do to push the lynch?). So I guess in retrospect he may still be leaning scum. His (sort of) mindmeld at EoD confuses the fuck out of me, though. sl is definitely town like 100% | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:04 Superbia wrote: Why? I trust that you're town, but I have no idea why you would read him town. x: you just need to trust in this read | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:07 Superbia wrote: I hate this sort of shit. I doesn't really help me as a player. Share your knowledge post game in pm pls. will probably share it in game tomorrow | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Then go do so because both Eden and I want to shoot him and Toad thinks he's scummy but is using retarded logic. nah we shoot slam and breshke | ||
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mehhh maybe not breshke i'm having second thoughts i dunno really i feel like slam should be mafia at this point in time otherwise things might get a bit crazy | ||
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I also like this from slam. Him and Hf are going at it and slam tries to bring other peoples opinions into it. Feels more townie because if he is town he doesn't have the fear of people analyzing his posts. Can't read slam for shit though so not putting much into this other than I wouldn't vote for him | ||
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slam still definitely a shot though | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: What I find weird about Breshke though is that he posted a list of reads where he had Slam as leaning town, then when he quoted my list of reads he questioned the Slam read on which I also had him as leaning town. He questioned the reason, but still I'd imagine he'd be more interested in the reads that were different. he questioned it because you phrased it badly | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:16 Holyflare wrote: hmmmm theory is that because exo didn't say anything about onegu and me he's probably town because i'm sure mafia would be hyper aware of that fact | ||
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I know you're probably going to do this anyway but please shoot me tonight. Tomorrow, Mario Party 10 arrives at my door and I will be losing my friendships over it all day and would like to do so with the peace of mind that I am dead in this game. I also need to purchase a new mattress so want to spend the early portions of the day rolling around all of the beds in shops. If you are hesitant about who to shoot tonight, I can make your job easy for you with this list of reasons: 1) You're going to have to shoot me at some point anyway because I'm basically a named vt at this point. 2) I will wreck you if you leave me in the game. 3) Everybody town reads me and you'll never mislynch me. Even salty mcsalterson Exo_ town reads me reluctantly. 4) Onegu aint doing anything anyway so I'll be the better partner to get rid of. 5) If Palmar is in your team it removes another dirty spammer from the game which will please him. 6) If Palmar isn't in your team it removes a dirty spammer from the game which will please him and then you can use it as an excuse to mislynch him if he doesn't play 7) I probably won't be saved tonight anyway So, really, there is nothing to lose mafia. Please do the right thing. Thank you. | ||
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And no i have a theory that I'll reveal just at deadline | ||
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On March 22 2015 06:51 Toadesstern wrote: I spend like 2 hours to write this up and I'm pretty damn sure Onegu is mafia though if you spent 2 hours writing 1 sentence then you gotta get help with some writing skills bro | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:04 Toadesstern wrote: inb4 people asking why I posted this instead of waiting another 50 minutes and just pull through: HF is annoying and bad. Yes that's literally all the reason here. Have it your way HF, it's not going to work. it was quite obvious what you were doing btw I was just playing along | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:15 Onegu wrote: Also lol at toad having me as town in his post but shooting me cuz I'm scum did you even read his post lol? | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:16 Toadesstern wrote: what if we have 3 dead people, none of the two targets, both vivax and I claim to be RB'ed? It's not about what will happen but what we'll get to see um you might want to rethink that........? how is that even possible because if one of you is town and got rb'd and the other is mafia fake claiming rb then it's definitely confirmed there is one mafia between you and then it's just a 1 for 1 trade regardless which is more than cool with me but i'm still living in a world with 2 potential town vigis | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:24 Toadesstern wrote: Vivax even got in the thread claiming he might not shoot after all to save his bullet... that's literally the most anti-town thing you could do. What if he claims just that? i will lynch anyone that "saves" their bullet | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:29 Toadesstern wrote: he also said he's not willing to tell you what he did with his shot d2 because that would give info to mafia about wether or not he still has it. While having claimed he might still have it. Situation: Vivax says nothing, I say I shot slam. Slam is still alive. What do we do? i will lynch anyone that withholds information or a shot when the plan is to specifically shoot people to confirm alignments | ||
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On March 22 2015 07:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Then they could still just let slam die and rb toad shooting not slam and we'd have no idea who toad was shooting, nor does scum so it'd be a coinflip either way. Yes but then at least one of them is town | ||
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