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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#1401
On March 20 2015 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why am i mafia LS?

Your arguing with Palmar wasn't really productive as far I can on what your read on him and you seemed to be angrier than normal too O_o
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#1402
On March 20 2015 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey there are actually a couple of really good points there Toad.
you go to townpile.

I've got no idea if I'm supposed to laugh, cry or whatever else at this moment because I have no idea if that was sacrasmn or not with this being in there:
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
[...]
The one thing Artanis has going for himself is that he apparently thinks I'm mafia. Mafias don't tend to mafiaread me because I post too big walloftexts and they're too lazy to actually read them so they'll nullread me or townread me because "wow, much text, very town"
But the reasoning is really bad here.

Still want to lynch Palmar. I'd be up for Artanis though.


I meant i find it odd Holyflare and Artanis say you are mafia for completely opposite reasons and there is no confrontation between them for it. Like i am not sure if it's important but it's a good point i find interesting.

Also you focusing onto other stuff momentarily is a towntell.


then you just aren't reading the thread at all because i most definitely already called him potential mafia

I am pretty sure you did not do it because of what Toad said in his post, amiright?
Or if i am not feel free to show me which of your posts say or even imply so.


i think his play is poop and i'm not interested in individual aspects so much

well then don't incorrectly say i am not reading the thread.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 18:20 GMT
#1403
+ Show Spoiler +
rayn is mafia because he's mafia!
- totes the best reason evar xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 18:21 GMT
#1404
truthfully, rayn, i haven't seen what makes me go town!rayn in the house! you were a super easy townread for me in joat because of those few things
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2015 18:22 GMT
#1405
omg you guys played league without me
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 18:23 GMT
#1406
i added you just a sec ago! lol >< taking a shower now but maybe later we can all play <3

(i suck super bad btw xP)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 18:23 GMT
#1407
On March 20 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
truthfully, rayn, i haven't seen what makes me go town!rayn in the house! you were a super easy townread for me in joat because of those few things

I am sorry but thewn you are going to think i am mafia in every single game from now on because i was really shit on D1 in that game behaviorvise.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 18:25 GMT
#1408
On March 20 2015 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 03:21 rsoultin wrote:
truthfully, rayn, i haven't seen what makes me go town!rayn in the house! you were a super easy townread for me in joat because of those few things

I am sorry but thewn you are going to think i am mafia in every single game from now on because i was really shit on D1 in that game behaviorvise.


lol yes you were shit xP

but it's not that you were shit, it's how you were shit lol like i townread you and still didn't agree with your push i'm capable of separating the two
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 19 2015 18:26 GMT
#1409
On March 20 2015 03:22 Holyflare wrote:
omg you guys played league without me

We will play with you when rsoultin wants to play again
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 18:27 GMT
#1410
i don't even know what you are saying now.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 19 2015 18:38 GMT
#1411
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 19 2015 18:39 GMT
#1412
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
okay here's the thing about Artanis, to get this straight with context I'll explain the context for you guys as well!

It is 24:00 CET, the game begings. Toad is currently playing boat-moba thus only posting inbetween and didn't even realize the game started. Thus the rushed inbetween posts while alt-tabbing in games.
About 01:00 CET, my internet crashes and I am afk for about... idk at least an hour
About 02:00 CET, I'm back and actually doing stuff. You might not agree with things I did like my Palmar read but I did some stuff. Enough for people to figure out that I don't like Palmar and want him lynched at least.
This continues until around 05:30 CET. Argueably I got distracted everytime HF got in the thread but I felt like I was actually getting my thoughts out at least when I made it pretty obvious that I don't want to lean back another game as townie and just lose that way.

So that's the basic background, Artanis gets in the thread and posts this:

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1) I'm reading Toad's filter now and the only thing I got out of it was that he thinks Palmar is scum, some interactions with SL 2) and a lot of fluff particularly on Pg 2. 3) What I don't really understand is why he let go of the Palmar scum theory in favour of chasing SL, then jumped back to Palmar without any real 'trigger' for it other than rsoultin asking him.

Problem with that is that he mentions he's back to voting for Palmar in response to that question before he expands, so he had already been thinking of switching back to Palmar before anyone triggered him. Palmar hadn't posted between the time Toad switched to SL and went back to Palmar.


3 important things here:

1) Hypocrisy. He even mentioned someone else being a hypocrite towards him and fos'es me for only getting 1 mafiaread during the time between... 00:00AM and 05:30AM? He knows I'm from europe, he knows I've got to sleep, heck I even wrote it in the thread and he says he doesn't know enough about my reads despite him not giving out a single hard read up to that point. Check his filter up to that point and you won't find anything and yet he criticizes me for that?

False, I went after Alakaslam, SL, and called out Superbia in that time.

2) He knows me. Everyone on here that knows me knows that I'm the boxxy of TL-mafia. I post a lot. I post a lot of big walls that noone reads. Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully. That's what I do. No matter of alignment. Every single game.
Sorry I just can't help it but he knows that I do it and he knows that I do it no matter of alignment. There's a big famous game that I had with VE + gom... whatever his name was that had like 200pages by the end of d2 because we're all very talkactive. He knows about that shit. He should not bring up my fluffyness no matter how cute I am.

Actually, I don't know you that well though I've always found you to be a good addition to games I've hosted as you generally had a positive vibe, one which I'm kind of missing this game so far. Not alignment indicative though as you've had it as both alignments, but a shame. Fluffyness is relevant when it's the majority of your filter.

3) I never gave up on Palmar. I think I made it plenty clear that I want him lynched and if I ever get the chance to lynch him I'm going to grab that chance and kick him out of this game. So HF reads me mafia for focussing too much on Palmar, Artanis reads me mafia for not focusing enough on Palmar and discussing other people even if I think Palmar is 99% confirmed mafia at this point. Great.

My point was that you went back to Palmar without anything initiating it. You just randomly decided "hey let's go back to Palmar" without anything seemingly triggering you. Like I said in my initial post, the way you replied to rso insinuated that you were already in the process of going back to him without him posting in the meantime.

Did anyone here really think I let go of my Palmar read in general? I thought it was pretty damn obvious that I was just putting it aside for a sec to discuss some other stuff at that time, in this case SL.

Feels like he's pushing me because he wants to push me rather than actually being convinced I'm mafia. He directly goes against what HF thinks and comes to the same conclusion as HF with the opposite interpretation with his #3. He knows better than to use #2 and he himself is worse than me for what he's accusing me about with his #1 at that point in time.

I didn't read HF's suspicions on you. I was triggered to read your filter by remembering that Palmar suspected you, and the reason I brought the whole thing up was because Palmar and Rayn were in a shitfight that wasn't going anywhere and I wanted to redirect their attention and get reads on a broader field.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 19 2015 18:40 GMT
#1413
Also, afaik HF's suspicion on Toad came from an early post rather than anything to do with how he chased Palmar.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 18:41 GMT
#1414
man mutsuki just sucks... minekaze was a crapton more fun to play.

Voting Artanis because I think I'm more likely to get him lynched than Palmar. No real change of mind, just that.

this does not in any way or form mean I am backing down from my Palmar-read or think Artanis is more scummy than Palmar. I think they're both scummy, Palmar a lot more so than Artanis but if I can't get Palmar I'll take Artanis instead.
Don't even dare to call me backpaddling on my Palmar-read. I. Am. Not. In. The. Slightest.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 19 2015 18:42 GMT
#1415
On March 20 2015 03:41 Toadesstern wrote:
man mutsuki just sucks... minekaze was a crapton more fun to play.

Voting Artanis because I think I'm more likely to get him lynched than Palmar. No real change of mind, just that.

this does not in any way or form mean I am backing down from my Palmar-read or think Artanis is more scummy than Palmar. I think they're both scummy, Palmar a lot more so than Artanis but if I can't get Palmar I'll take Artanis instead.
Don't even dare to call me backpaddling on my Palmar-read. I. Am. Not. In. The. Slightest.

backpedaling
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 18:43 GMT
#1416
On March 20 2015 03:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
okay here's the thing about Artanis, to get this straight with context I'll explain the context for you guys as well!

It is 24:00 CET, the game begings. Toad is currently playing boat-moba thus only posting inbetween and didn't even realize the game started. Thus the rushed inbetween posts while alt-tabbing in games.
About 01:00 CET, my internet crashes and I am afk for about... idk at least an hour
About 02:00 CET, I'm back and actually doing stuff. You might not agree with things I did like my Palmar read but I did some stuff. Enough for people to figure out that I don't like Palmar and want him lynched at least.
This continues until around 05:30 CET. Argueably I got distracted everytime HF got in the thread but I felt like I was actually getting my thoughts out at least when I made it pretty obvious that I don't want to lean back another game as townie and just lose that way.

So that's the basic background, Artanis gets in the thread and posts this:

On March 19 2015 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1) I'm reading Toad's filter now and the only thing I got out of it was that he thinks Palmar is scum, some interactions with SL 2) and a lot of fluff particularly on Pg 2. 3) What I don't really understand is why he let go of the Palmar scum theory in favour of chasing SL, then jumped back to Palmar without any real 'trigger' for it other than rsoultin asking him.

Problem with that is that he mentions he's back to voting for Palmar in response to that question before he expands, so he had already been thinking of switching back to Palmar before anyone triggered him. Palmar hadn't posted between the time Toad switched to SL and went back to Palmar.


3 important things here:

1) Hypocrisy. He even mentioned someone else being a hypocrite towards him and fos'es me for only getting 1 mafiaread during the time between... 00:00AM and 05:30AM? He knows I'm from europe, he knows I've got to sleep, heck I even wrote it in the thread and he says he doesn't know enough about my reads despite him not giving out a single hard read up to that point. Check his filter up to that point and you won't find anything and yet he criticizes me for that?

False, I went after Alakaslam, SL, and called out Superbia in that time.

Show nested quote +
2) He knows me. Everyone on here that knows me knows that I'm the boxxy of TL-mafia. I post a lot. I post a lot of big walls that noone reads. Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully. That's what I do. No matter of alignment. Every single game.
Sorry I just can't help it but he knows that I do it and he knows that I do it no matter of alignment. There's a big famous game that I had with VE + gom... whatever his name was that had like 200pages by the end of d2 because we're all very talkactive. He knows about that shit. He should not bring up my fluffyness no matter how cute I am.

Actually, I don't know you that well though I've always found you to be a good addition to games I've hosted as you generally had a positive vibe, one which I'm kind of missing this game so far. Not alignment indicative though as you've had it as both alignments, but a shame. Fluffyness is relevant when it's the majority of your filter.

Show nested quote +
3) I never gave up on Palmar. I think I made it plenty clear that I want him lynched and if I ever get the chance to lynch him I'm going to grab that chance and kick him out of this game. So HF reads me mafia for focussing too much on Palmar, Artanis reads me mafia for not focusing enough on Palmar and discussing other people even if I think Palmar is 99% confirmed mafia at this point. Great.

My point was that you went back to Palmar without anything initiating it. You just randomly decided "hey let's go back to Palmar" without anything seemingly triggering you. Like I said in my initial post, the way you replied to rso insinuated that you were already in the process of going back to him without him posting in the meantime.

Show nested quote +
Did anyone here really think I let go of my Palmar read in general? I thought it was pretty damn obvious that I was just putting it aside for a sec to discuss some other stuff at that time, in this case SL.

Feels like he's pushing me because he wants to push me rather than actually being convinced I'm mafia. He directly goes against what HF thinks and comes to the same conclusion as HF with the opposite interpretation with his #3. He knows better than to use #2 and he himself is worse than me for what he's accusing me about with his #1 at that point in time.

I didn't read HF's suspicions on you. I was triggered to read your filter by remembering that Palmar suspected you, and the reason I brought the whole thing up was because Palmar and Rayn were in a shitfight that wasn't going anywhere and I wanted to redirect their attention and get reads on a broader field.

you mentioned them, you never ended up really calling them mafia.

In fact I'm the only mafia in your list you posted later on the the read on them has got to be a lot weaker than the one on me, right?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 19 2015 18:44 GMT
#1417
On March 20 2015 03:43 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 03:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
okay here's the thing about Artanis, to get this straight with context I'll explain the context for you guys as well!

It is 24:00 CET, the game begings. Toad is currently playing boat-moba thus only posting inbetween and didn't even realize the game started. Thus the rushed inbetween posts while alt-tabbing in games.
About 01:00 CET, my internet crashes and I am afk for about... idk at least an hour
About 02:00 CET, I'm back and actually doing stuff. You might not agree with things I did like my Palmar read but I did some stuff. Enough for people to figure out that I don't like Palmar and want him lynched at least.
This continues until around 05:30 CET. Argueably I got distracted everytime HF got in the thread but I felt like I was actually getting my thoughts out at least when I made it pretty obvious that I don't want to lean back another game as townie and just lose that way.

So that's the basic background, Artanis gets in the thread and posts this:

On March 19 2015 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1) I'm reading Toad's filter now and the only thing I got out of it was that he thinks Palmar is scum, some interactions with SL 2) and a lot of fluff particularly on Pg 2. 3) What I don't really understand is why he let go of the Palmar scum theory in favour of chasing SL, then jumped back to Palmar without any real 'trigger' for it other than rsoultin asking him.

Problem with that is that he mentions he's back to voting for Palmar in response to that question before he expands, so he had already been thinking of switching back to Palmar before anyone triggered him. Palmar hadn't posted between the time Toad switched to SL and went back to Palmar.


3 important things here:

1) Hypocrisy. He even mentioned someone else being a hypocrite towards him and fos'es me for only getting 1 mafiaread during the time between... 00:00AM and 05:30AM? He knows I'm from europe, he knows I've got to sleep, heck I even wrote it in the thread and he says he doesn't know enough about my reads despite him not giving out a single hard read up to that point. Check his filter up to that point and you won't find anything and yet he criticizes me for that?

False, I went after Alakaslam, SL, and called out Superbia in that time.

2) He knows me. Everyone on here that knows me knows that I'm the boxxy of TL-mafia. I post a lot. I post a lot of big walls that noone reads. Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully. That's what I do. No matter of alignment. Every single game.
Sorry I just can't help it but he knows that I do it and he knows that I do it no matter of alignment. There's a big famous game that I had with VE + gom... whatever his name was that had like 200pages by the end of d2 because we're all very talkactive. He knows about that shit. He should not bring up my fluffyness no matter how cute I am.

Actually, I don't know you that well though I've always found you to be a good addition to games I've hosted as you generally had a positive vibe, one which I'm kind of missing this game so far. Not alignment indicative though as you've had it as both alignments, but a shame. Fluffyness is relevant when it's the majority of your filter.

3) I never gave up on Palmar. I think I made it plenty clear that I want him lynched and if I ever get the chance to lynch him I'm going to grab that chance and kick him out of this game. So HF reads me mafia for focussing too much on Palmar, Artanis reads me mafia for not focusing enough on Palmar and discussing other people even if I think Palmar is 99% confirmed mafia at this point. Great.

My point was that you went back to Palmar without anything initiating it. You just randomly decided "hey let's go back to Palmar" without anything seemingly triggering you. Like I said in my initial post, the way you replied to rso insinuated that you were already in the process of going back to him without him posting in the meantime.

Did anyone here really think I let go of my Palmar read in general? I thought it was pretty damn obvious that I was just putting it aside for a sec to discuss some other stuff at that time, in this case SL.

Feels like he's pushing me because he wants to push me rather than actually being convinced I'm mafia. He directly goes against what HF thinks and comes to the same conclusion as HF with the opposite interpretation with his #3. He knows better than to use #2 and he himself is worse than me for what he's accusing me about with his #1 at that point in time.

I didn't read HF's suspicions on you. I was triggered to read your filter by remembering that Palmar suspected you, and the reason I brought the whole thing up was because Palmar and Rayn were in a shitfight that wasn't going anywhere and I wanted to redirect their attention and get reads on a broader field.

you mentioned them, you never ended up really calling them mafia.

In fact I'm the only mafia in your list you posted later on the the read on them has got to be a lot weaker than the one on me, right?

I ended up townreading Alakaslam and Superbia both for reasons in my filter. You and Rayn are currently my only mafia suspects, which is unfortunate but I'm better at finding town than scum so it is what it is.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 18:45 GMT
#1418
On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now.


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

No i haven't done myers briggs type test.
sicklucker & superbia scum for being the lest town in the thread besides damdred. And Toad, but that scumread i don't have any more. As for what i don't like on them, sicklucker mainly because he goes full "again this shit where people call me mafia" and then doesn't really talk about anything else, it's old, and it doesn't help him if he is town, and he should know that. Superbia because of what Vivax said.

I just don't post everything i have in mind, especially if other people have said the same things before.... It's just useless and i don't care if people think i am scum for "not contributing" while to be fair noone should because i can play more laid back game and it usually even benefits me in thinking more rationally.

I don't what you mean by your last sentence, i do not read you scum.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 18:46 GMT
#1419
that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours:
On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel
- Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.

Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.

Null
Everyone not on other lists.

Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.

##Vote Toadesstern

and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 18:47 GMT
#1420
That's not what Artanis is saying Toad.
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