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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:01 GMT
#1361
LightningStrike could be scum too because he wants to sheep HF onto someone he doesn't necessarily think is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 19 2015 17:14 GMT
#1362
To be fair I guess Toad looks slightly less bad for actually calling Artanis mafia. Not because it's a good read or likely to be right, but because he's quite clearly not out to make friends.

I'm off for now.
Computer says mafia
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:20 GMT
#1363
okay here's the thing about Artanis, to get this straight with context I'll explain the context for you guys as well!

It is 24:00 CET, the game begings. Toad is currently playing boat-moba thus only posting inbetween and didn't even realize the game started. Thus the rushed inbetween posts while alt-tabbing in games.
About 01:00 CET, my internet crashes and I am afk for about... idk at least an hour
About 02:00 CET, I'm back and actually doing stuff. You might not agree with things I did like my Palmar read but I did some stuff. Enough for people to figure out that I don't like Palmar and want him lynched at least.
This continues until around 05:30 CET. Argueably I got distracted everytime HF got in the thread but I felt like I was actually getting my thoughts out at least when I made it pretty obvious that I don't want to lean back another game as townie and just lose that way.

So that's the basic background, Artanis gets in the thread and posts this:

On March 19 2015 20:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
1) I'm reading Toad's filter now and the only thing I got out of it was that he thinks Palmar is scum, some interactions with SL 2) and a lot of fluff particularly on Pg 2. 3) What I don't really understand is why he let go of the Palmar scum theory in favour of chasing SL, then jumped back to Palmar without any real 'trigger' for it other than rsoultin asking him.

Problem with that is that he mentions he's back to voting for Palmar in response to that question before he expands, so he had already been thinking of switching back to Palmar before anyone triggered him. Palmar hadn't posted between the time Toad switched to SL and went back to Palmar.


3 important things here:

1) Hypocrisy. He even mentioned someone else being a hypocrite towards him and fos'es me for only getting 1 mafiaread during the time between... 00:00AM and 05:30AM? He knows I'm from europe, he knows I've got to sleep, heck I even wrote it in the thread and he says he doesn't know enough about my reads despite him not giving out a single hard read up to that point. Check his filter up to that point and you won't find anything and yet he criticizes me for that?

2) He knows me. Everyone on here that knows me knows that I'm the boxxy of TL-mafia. I post a lot. I post a lot of big walls that noone reads. Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully. That's what I do. No matter of alignment. Every single game.
Sorry I just can't help it but he knows that I do it and he knows that I do it no matter of alignment. There's a big famous game that I had with VE + gom... whatever his name was that had like 200pages by the end of d2 because we're all very talkactive. He knows about that shit. He should not bring up my fluffyness no matter how cute I am.

3) I never gave up on Palmar. I think I made it plenty clear that I want him lynched and if I ever get the chance to lynch him I'm going to grab that chance and kick him out of this game. So HF reads me mafia for focussing too much on Palmar, Artanis reads me mafia for not focusing enough on Palmar and discussing other people even if I think Palmar is 99% confirmed mafia at this point. Great.

Did anyone here really think I let go of my Palmar read in general? I thought it was pretty damn obvious that I was just putting it aside for a sec to discuss some other stuff at that time, in this case SL.

Feels like he's pushing me because he wants to push me rather than actually being convinced I'm mafia. He directly goes against what HF thinks and comes to the same conclusion as HF with the opposite interpretation with his #3. He knows better than to use #2 and he himself is worse than me for what he's accusing me about with his #1 at that point in time.

The one thing Artanis has going for himself is that he apparently thinks I'm mafia. Mafias don't tend to mafiaread me because I post too big walloftexts and they're too lazy to actually read them so they'll nullread me or townread me because "wow, much text, very town"
But the reasoning is really bad here.

Still want to lynch Palmar. I'd be up for Artanis though.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#1364
whoever quotes a certain phrase up there, proving that he is reading gets a free townread from me.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:25 GMT
#1365
hey there are actually a couple of really good points there Toad.
you go to townpile.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2015 17:28 GMT
#1366
yeh yeh i read it and i have dem artanis qualms, although different ones

+ Show Spoiler +
Chances are you, my dear non-reader, aren't actually reading this very sentence because you already gave up on it because it's too long and fully.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:30 GMT
#1367
damn it, that was supposed to be fluffy. Guess HF is town...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2015 17:32 GMT
#1368
Literally I can't remember anything you've said or done besides have a shit fight with Palmar over nothing Rayn so yes, I don't think you have done anything of value in the thread. Nor do I remember your reads or care if they in any way line up with early d1 reads that are bound to change as the game progresses. All reads at this stage are formative and doesn't really matter what association they bring to me.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:41 GMT
#1369
On March 20 2015 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey there are actually a couple of really good points there Toad.
you go to townpile.

I've got no idea if I'm supposed to laugh, cry or whatever else at this moment because I have no idea if that was sacrasmn or not with this being in there:
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
[...]
The one thing Artanis has going for himself is that he apparently thinks I'm mafia. Mafias don't tend to mafiaread me because I post too big walloftexts and they're too lazy to actually read them so they'll nullread me or townread me because "wow, much text, very town"
But the reasoning is really bad here.

Still want to lynch Palmar. I'd be up for Artanis though.

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2015 17:44 GMT
#1370
Toad have I ever told you that I love your traps?

Anyway I actually think you might have a stronger case for artanis in there than you do for Palmar at this point.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:44 GMT
#1371
On March 20 2015 02:32 Damdred wrote:
Literally I can't remember anything you've said or done besides have a shit fight with Palmar over nothing Rayn so yes, I don't think you have done anything of value in the thread. Nor do I remember your reads or care if they in any way line up with early d1 reads that are bound to change as the game progresses. All reads at this stage are formative and doesn't really matter what association they bring to me.

First of all that was not a shit fight and it lasted about five posts. I think it's kind of an exaggeration to call it a shitfight...
How can you read me scum when you don't even know what i have done?
And why do you read ExO scum?
table for two on a tv tray
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:44 GMT
#1372
Well, HF is town as we just figured out.
Palmar is still mafia.

So it can't be Palmar+HF after all. So we change it to either Palmar+Artanis or Palmar+Rayn imo
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:47 GMT
#1373
On March 20 2015 02:44 Damdred wrote:
Toad have I ever told you that I love your traps?

Anyway I actually think you might have a stronger case for artanis in there than you do for Palmar at this point.

nah my case on Palmar is a crapton better. Like even if you argue that he was just making fun you're arguing that he was trying to get me pissed on purpose to have some fun and derail the thread. That's mafiaagenda if there ever was one.
And if not he's mafia because of my thread

caught mafia no matter what.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:47 GMT
#1374
On March 20 2015 02:41 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey there are actually a couple of really good points there Toad.
you go to townpile.

I've got no idea if I'm supposed to laugh, cry or whatever else at this moment because I have no idea if that was sacrasmn or not with this being in there:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
[...]
The one thing Artanis has going for himself is that he apparently thinks I'm mafia. Mafias don't tend to mafiaread me because I post too big walloftexts and they're too lazy to actually read them so they'll nullread me or townread me because "wow, much text, very town"
But the reasoning is really bad here.

Still want to lynch Palmar. I'd be up for Artanis though.


I meant i find it odd Holyflare and Artanis say you are mafia for completely opposite reasons and there is no confrontation between them for it. Like i am not sure if it's important but it's a good point i find interesting.

Also you focusing onto other stuff momentarily is a towntell.
table for two on a tv tray
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 19 2015 17:47 GMT
#1375
*thread = case
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2015 17:49 GMT
#1376
On March 20 2015 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:32 Damdred wrote:
Literally I can't remember anything you've said or done besides have a shit fight with Palmar over nothing Rayn so yes, I don't think you have done anything of value in the thread. Nor do I remember your reads or care if they in any way line up with early d1 reads that are bound to change as the game progresses. All reads at this stage are formative and doesn't really matter what association they bring to me.

First of all that was not a shit fight and it lasted about five posts. I think it's kind of an exaggeration to call it a shitfight...
How can you read me scum when you don't even know what i have done?
And why do you read ExO scum?


You argued over nothing with Palmar over nothing? That is a shit fight like you made that section of the thread shitty over nothing?

Exactly

Exo might be scum for not being contributive like he normally would be, he might be behind but hes boring and on the side lines.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:51 GMT
#1377
You are boring and on the sidelines.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 19 2015 17:52 GMT
#1378
On March 20 2015 02:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 02:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 20 2015 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey there are actually a couple of really good points there Toad.
you go to townpile.

I've got no idea if I'm supposed to laugh, cry or whatever else at this moment because I have no idea if that was sacrasmn or not with this being in there:
On March 20 2015 02:20 Toadesstern wrote:
[...]
The one thing Artanis has going for himself is that he apparently thinks I'm mafia. Mafias don't tend to mafiaread me because I post too big walloftexts and they're too lazy to actually read them so they'll nullread me or townread me because "wow, much text, very town"
But the reasoning is really bad here.

Still want to lynch Palmar. I'd be up for Artanis though.


I meant i find it odd Holyflare and Artanis say you are mafia for completely opposite reasons and there is no confrontation between them for it. Like i am not sure if it's important but it's a good point i find interesting.

Also you focusing onto other stuff momentarily is a towntell.


then you just aren't reading the thread at all because i most definitely already called him potential mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 17:53 GMT
#1379
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum

all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite.
table for two on a tv tray
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 19 2015 17:53 GMT
#1380
Nope whenever i'm here i'm in the fray not on the sidelines XD
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