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On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either.
I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying.
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Also Rayn I should be pretty much confirmed town to you.
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On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Rayn I should be pretty much confirmed town to you.
Am i saying otherwise?
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On March 20 2015 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Rayn I should be pretty much confirmed town to you. Am i saying otherwise?
You said Toad had good points which suggests that you no longer considered me in that fashion.
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On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either. I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying.
so show me the post that made you think I thought Palmar was a bad lynch. Because I'm pretty sure I never backed down on that in the first place.
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On March 20 2015 03:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also Rayn I should be pretty much confirmed town to you. Am i saying otherwise? You said Toad had good points which suggests that you no longer considered me in that fashion.
I think i explained it later.
I meant it's not that he is right and you or Holyflare is mafia but it's more likely that he is town for making those points.
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On March 20 2015 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town  so where did that read come from? No i haven't done myers briggs type test. sicklucker & superbia scum for being the lest town in the thread besides damdred. And Toad, but that scumread i don't have any more. As for what i don't like on them, sicklucker mainly because he goes full "again this shit where people call me mafia" and then doesn't really talk about anything else, it's old, and it doesn't help him if he is town, and he should know that. Superbia because of what Vivax said. I just don't post everything i have in mind, especially if other people have said the same things before.... It's just useless and i don't care if people think i am scum for "not contributing" while to be fair noone should because i can play more laid back game and it usually even benefits me in thinking more rationally. I don't what you mean by your last sentence, i do not read you scum.
tbf my perception of you is not as a lazy player who is content with two scumreads lol based on others' logic without using those reads to try to get reads on other people, too. granted i know you are now scumreading damdred as well, and that was originalish, but it wasn't impressive (i.e. your reasons were weak)
my perception of you may be wrong, but hf apparently shares it -shrugs-
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On March 20 2015 03:50 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either. I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying. so show me the post that made you think I thought Palmar was a bad lynch. Because I'm pretty sure I never backed down on that in the first place.
Again you're changing my argument to something I never said. I never said you think Palmar is a bad lynch. This is my argument:
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On March 20 2015 03:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from? No i haven't done myers briggs type test. sicklucker & superbia scum for being the lest town in the thread besides damdred. And Toad, but that scumread i don't have any more. As for what i don't like on them, sicklucker mainly because he goes full "again this shit where people call me mafia" and then doesn't really talk about anything else, it's old, and it doesn't help him if he is town, and he should know that. Superbia because of what Vivax said. I just don't post everything i have in mind, especially if other people have said the same things before.... It's just useless and i don't care if people think i am scum for "not contributing" while to be fair noone should because i can play more laid back game and it usually even benefits me in thinking more rationally. I don't what you mean by your last sentence, i do not read you scum. tbf my perception of you is not as a lazy player who is content with two scumreads lol based on others' logic without using those reads to try to get reads on other people, too. granted i know you are now scumreading damdred as well, and that was originalish, but it wasn't impressive (i.e. your reasons were weak) my perception of you may be wrong, but hf apparently shares it -shrugs-
My reasons are good.
And not posting != lazy
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Also i sheep good reads all the time. Sometimes even over my own reads which i find superior.
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lol rayn
i'm not going to tell you specifically what you have to do to make me read you town (for obvious reasons) but i can definitively say you haven't done it yet and it has nothing to do with how much you have or haven't posted xP
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On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?
+ Show Spoiler +
i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry
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On March 20 2015 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:50 Toadesstern wrote:On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either. I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying. so show me the post that made you think I thought Palmar was a bad lynch. Because I'm pretty sure I never backed down on that in the first place. Again you're changing my argument to something I never said. I never said you think Palmar is a bad lynch. This is my argument:
you realize that even if you say Palmar wasn't posting there I could be going through peoples filters? In fact I had half of the post finished when *whoever it was that asked about Palmar* asked about Palmar and included that because of an F5?
I could have talked with SL and thought he's more a lynchbait than anything else, like I mentioned, thus going back to Palmar?
I could have just thought "fuck it, I lost four games in a row by making sure everyone knows I'm town early on, got killed cycle-1 four times in a row without having enough influence on the game because I sat back as confirmed townie not pushing my reads hard enough" ?
Why is none of that a possibility for you?
It's not like I'm flip flopping from Palmar to LS to some guy I never mentioned before. I went from Palmar to LS back to Palmar. Stuff happens.
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On March 20 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
lol rayn
i'm not going to tell you specifically what you have to do to make me read you town (for obvious reasons) but i can definitively say you haven't done it yet and it has nothing to do with how much you have or haven't posted xP
well this discussion is obviously pointless.
i was thinking you might say you think i am scum for some real reason but if there are none then i guess i can go do something else.
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On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from? + Show Spoiler +i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry
+ Show Spoiler +lol can you guess?
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On March 20 2015 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
lol rayn
i'm not going to tell you specifically what you have to do to make me read you town (for obvious reasons) but i can definitively say you haven't done it yet and it has nothing to do with how much you have or haven't posted xP well this discussion is obviously pointless. i was thinking you might say you think i am scum for some real reason but if there are none then i guess i can go do something else.
-amused-
the reason is simple. you are not being productive in the way town rayn is productive. the factors you are lighting on
- posting or not posting
- sheeping or not sheeping
are inconsequential. it is how you are going about determining alignments. and no, you can't really argue against it. if i see what i'm looking for i'll move my vote
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On March 20 2015 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:50 Toadesstern wrote:On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either. I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying. so show me the post that made you think I thought Palmar was a bad lynch. Because I'm pretty sure I never backed down on that in the first place. Again you're changing my argument to something I never said. I never said you think Palmar is a bad lynch. This is my argument: you realize that even if you say Palmar wasn't posting there I could be going through peoples filters? In fact I had half of the post finished when *whoever it was that asked about Palmar* asked about Palmar and included that because of an F5? I could have talked with SL and thought he's more a lynchbait than anything else, like I mentioned, thus going back to Palmar? I could have just thought "fuck it, I lost four games in a row by making sure everyone knows I'm town early on, got killed cycle-1 four times in a row without having enough influence on the game because I sat back as confirmed townie not pushing my reads hard enough" ? Why is none of that a possibility for you? It's not like I'm flip flopping from Palmar to LS to some guy I never mentioned before. I went from Palmar to LS back to Palmar. Stuff happens.
Of course all of that is a possibility. I never said you were certain scum. I simply felt the timing was suspicious and seemingly unprovoked, but the play you've shown since coming back is satisfactory.
##Unvote
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On March 20 2015 04:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from? + Show Spoiler +i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry + Show Spoiler +lol can you guess?
+ Show Spoiler +No since I forgot what the biggs type test is it been so long 
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Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question:
Where did Eden run off to?
And then I checked his filter and saw this:
On March 20 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 20 2015 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i don't even know what you are saying now. out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process ^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point: your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why? lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from? + Show Spoiler +i am around but not caught up, and my other game i'm in got hella interesting, so i will probably be useless the rest of d1. sorry
His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing?
It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous.
##Vote: Eden
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On March 20 2015 04:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:01 Toadesstern wrote:On March 20 2015 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:50 Toadesstern wrote:On March 20 2015 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 03:46 Toadesstern wrote:that's literally the first time you comment on some hard reads of yours: On March 19 2015 21:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Leaning Town
Trfel - Questioned # of mafia after Superbia already did and got a nasty response from it. Doesn't seem to be afraid of any backlash, posting carefree.
LightningStrike - See above. Would expect him to have more trouble posting as mafia.
Fecalfeast - Brought up point against SL, didn't try to bury him
ExO_ - Made a stupid question, got called out on it by a lot of people, still responded and came to a reasonable for him conclusion.
Cautiously leaning town
rsoultin - Rayn and HF said so, haven't really looked into her further.
Alakaslam - Genuinely seems to want to change his meta in contrast to last time he rolled scum where he just admitted it was his scum meta.
Holyflare & Damdred - Similar thoughts a few times throughout the game, such as with ExO_ and Alakaslam.
Null
Everyone not on other lists.
Leaning Mafia
Toadesstern - Went after Palmar, then lots of fluff, then went after SL, then suddenly went back to Palmar without Palmar posting in between. Hasn't been as productive as Town!Toad normally is.
##Vote Toadesstern and I'm the only one in your mafiareads while you go at me for only being on Palmar. So it's fine for you to only have one read but it's not fine for me to only have one? I mentioned a bunch of people without putting them in the "KILL IT WITH FIRE" treshhold either. I didn't go after you for only being on Palmar. That's not my argument at all, what I'm saying is that for no reason at all you switched back from SL to Palmar when he had posted nothing in the meantime. THAT'S what I'm saying. so show me the post that made you think I thought Palmar was a bad lynch. Because I'm pretty sure I never backed down on that in the first place. Again you're changing my argument to something I never said. I never said you think Palmar is a bad lynch. This is my argument: you realize that even if you say Palmar wasn't posting there I could be going through peoples filters? In fact I had half of the post finished when *whoever it was that asked about Palmar* asked about Palmar and included that because of an F5? I could have talked with SL and thought he's more a lynchbait than anything else, like I mentioned, thus going back to Palmar? I could have just thought "fuck it, I lost four games in a row by making sure everyone knows I'm town early on, got killed cycle-1 four times in a row without having enough influence on the game because I sat back as confirmed townie not pushing my reads hard enough" ? Why is none of that a possibility for you? It's not like I'm flip flopping from Palmar to LS to some guy I never mentioned before. I went from Palmar to LS back to Palmar. Stuff happens. Of course all of that is a possibility. I never said you were certain scum. I simply felt the timing was suspicious and seemingly unprovoked, but the play you've shown since coming back is satisfactory. ##Unvote
was it my case on Palmar or my case on you that was satisfactory?
Or my #DETERMINED way of talking when I was raging at HF, because I could probably fake that as mafia?
If you want to lynch Palmar we can be friends. He hasn't really done anything other than throw shit at me and make me rage on purpose if I am to believe that he did that on purpose like some people here seem to imply.
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