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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 26 2015 12:18 Eden1892 wrote: ritoky postrt_this_game: 4.7438 postrt_town: 3.7115 postrt_scum: 1.9685 Wow, that's a pretty big discrepancy I have there......I need to start fixing that next time I roll scum LOL | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 27 2015 04:20 Vivax wrote: You're the guy I was just looking for. Aren't you suspicious of Damdred? Now is the time for a good case. give me like 20 mins to catch up on the thread, then i will start working on it. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Onegu if your vote is locked in why aren't you voting? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
will be deciding my vote in the next hourish. apparently i have work from 4-10 tonight | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 23 2015 12:53 Onegu wrote: show good intent and the idea that Onegu was fakeclaiming to draw hits as well as help town or does it look like he abused it for something else?You dumb dumbs lynch me before Rayn. When I flip mason you lynch toad when he flips scum you lynch rsoul. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
Vivax you're drunk go home | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 27 2015 04:33 Toadesstern wrote: Eden, do you think posts like this:show good intent and the idea that Onegu was fakeclaiming to draw hits as well as help town or does it look like he abused it for something else? I can't figure out what that something else would be. Looks completely within his town range and mafia range, also looks pointless | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
(1) SCIENCE BITCH (2) The fact that he seemed to just be arguing points with Artanis instead of actually trying to figure anything out or get anywherre and say we lynch Superbia today. (1) is pretty self-evident, of the people who I bothered to do my Advanced AnalysisTM on Superbia's data clearly fit scum profile rather than town. (2), when I read that argument (and I'm gonna reread to find examples or reevaluate if I'm wrong), it seemed more like Superbia was interested in arguing the individual points Artanis was raising instead of demonstrating why he was town instead of scum. I got the impression that it was debate without a conclusion. I'm not really sure why Artanis was satisfied with it, but I don't think it means anything for his alignment, so idgaf. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Breshke: On March 26 2015 10:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay after checking Breshke's scumgames he seems much more aggressive in them, calling people out and being very certain of himself which is in contrast to both his last two towngames and this game so he goes into townpile. Onegu: On March 25 2015 23:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay there's something in Onegu's tone I noticed in Neat & Tidy (mafia) that struck my eye because it felt very un-Oneguish. There's something that feels very defeatist about this, and it's formulated in a way very differently to how Onegu said he's fine with getting lynched this game. It feels more... theatrical, like he has to put on a show. Onegu this game has not felt like he's putting on a show at all. I think I'm going to go with town onegu for now. Fecal: On March 27 2015 00:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Fecal's interaction with rso though reads quite genuine. The sudden "fuck you are town aren't you" popping up is something I can really imagine as town and would find hard to fake as scum. I guess it's possible to fake if you're aware that what you're pushing is definitely going nowhere but I think scum would try to find some excuse for it. Superbia: Fact that he actually started doubting his read on me after meta'ing me despite having thrown just about anything he could at me beforehand and that there's certainly stuff in Imperial that you could parallel to here if you searched hard enough if he wanted to paint me off as scummy. Slam: Basically other people's reads, I dunno how to read him for shit. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On March 27 2015 03:58 Damdred wrote: I kinda want to lynch ritokyvright now for totally vanishing and not pushing his soul scum read currently. He also is missing the drive to push much of anything and he's super serial wasn't I town, if not for rayn's play earlier to you? what changed that? just my inactivity cuz of my wife's bday? also this seems like a damnded if i do damned if i don't set-up (PUN INTENDED). you're scum reading me for not tunneling you? which is the thing i am most prone to do as scum outside of bus like mad? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
damdred mentioned onegu so little in his filter, basically not even regarding his existence that it just reeks of partners ignoring eachother. if i am wrong and 1 of them flips town, then i am probably wrong on both of them and the other 1 is clear imo. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Today is between Onegu/Slam/Superbia/Fecal, maaaaybe Breshke. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On March 27 2015 04:45 ritoky wrote: i kinda want to lynch damdred or onegu. damdred mentioned onegu so little in his filter, basically not even regarding his existence that it just reeks of partners ignoring eachother. if i am wrong and 1 of them flips town, then i am probably wrong on both of them and the other 1 is clear imo. that's pretty shitty reason to vote anyone. There's a crapton of people I ignore in most games just because I don't have a lot of games played with them while mostly sticking and talking to the guys that I know for 1+ years in games if there are such people. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 22:36 Superbia wrote: Your reads haven't been "fluid". They've been chaotic. I've demonstrated that your "reads" do not influence your progression whatsoever. You move top scum to hard town in a split second. You are town-read your previous top scum after he does exactly what you predicted he would do if he were scum (partial thanks to FF for pointing that out). So this is a good example. This doesn't actually prove that Artanis is mafia. Superbia is interested in demonstrating that Artanis's reads were chaotic instead of fluid. Sweet argument, who the fuck cares, is he town or mafia for this? He almost gets to the point of arguing that something might be mafia-indicative (disconnect between stated reads and apparent progression of those reads), but he uses one example (Vivax read) that is actually pretty reasonable to flip like that on (since Vivax really dialed his game up around n1). Later on is more damning to me: On March 26 2015 22:54 Superbia wrote: I bussed in Imperial? Hardly. I threw some scum on Ritoky (iirc), my team mate. That's about it. You can't half-ass this shit. Expand all the quotes and read it. I snipped some of the older stuff that's not relevant, you can read that on your own if you wish. You'll notice that Superbia doesn't bother to rebut the arguments Artanis made about his play in this game, only instead demanding that Artanis also make a meta argument against him. When Artanis says he hasn't meta-read Superbia, Superbia rebuts by saying that one of Artanis's points was based on meta. He doesn't actually try to rebut the point being made based on meta, notice; he just corrects Artanis on the fact that one point was meta-based. Artanis rightfully tells him that he's arguing points instead of reads and demands his case be addressed again; Superbia responds by halfway-arguing that in one game in the past he didn't bus. This doesn't even rebut the substantive part of the one point being made (that Superbia buses as mafia), it's just semantics about one example. The rest of the case goes unaddressed. This guy is just arguing to argue. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
slam is town lean cuz of my crazy reasoning that no1 but me understood. onegu is mafia, but that is mostly as a result of me not being a fan of letting fakeclaims go unpunished and damdred association. the other 2 i don't have a particularly firm opinion on. superbia really seemed to believe in his case on artanis earlier which was really town for me, but he backed out of it after it got no traction. can't tell if it was because his read on artanis changed or if it was cuz it had 0 traction yet...kinda meh on him. fecal...dunno LOL, hardly remember any of his posts. that's probably no bueno for him. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Superbia | ||
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