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I actually want to fill in the votes with other people's reads and see how they match up/make sense.
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On March 21 2015 03:30 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 03:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fecal Rso is town because 14 pages on D1. Are there no filler posts in there? Have you never seen someone pad their filter length?
Even if you pad you don't get 14 pages as mafia.
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On March 21 2015 03:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Votes as I see them:
Vivax (5): Artanis[Xp], Damdred, LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern
LightningStrike (4): Bill Murray, FecalFeast, Vivax, Onegu
sicklucker (3): Superbia, Alakaslam, Breshke
Artanis[Xp] (2): VisceraEyes, Eden1892
raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, rsoultin
Toadesstern (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet
Eden1892 (1): ExO
Not Voting (1): Trfel
Only having 1.7 scumread is problematic. Was hoping this'd help more.
you have the game pretty much figured out with all those strong townreads.
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If they're not bolded they're not super strong. I'm only confident on you, eden and rso.
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On March 21 2015 03:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
What counts as interacting with people? He talks to damdred, he talks to Ls, his scumread. He talks a LOT to artanis, he talks a little to VE....
I have a bunch of tabs of quotes of him interacting with people I think I need a definition of interacting.
okay, what i mean by interacting here is trying to get opinions. on his own reads, usually...kinda like LS was doing before asking for opinions on those fights but a little less awkward lol
like, for me there's a huge difference between discussing something with someone and talking at someone. this would be an example of a discussion, whereas me just rolling around going rayn is scum rayn is scum, even in response to something, is talking at someone
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rayn has this thing where he likes to know not just a person's reads but why they have those reads and if they make sense. that's what's absent here. that is what i am scumreading him for, and that was what i wasn't going to tell him too early in the game when he can adjust
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On March 21 2015 03:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
why the green on alaka?
I've explained this multiple times. It's because of the way he went about being called out on breaking his meta. When I played against him and he was mafia he simply acknowledged it, then kept playing the way he did. In this game he strongly said he's breaking it. Very different approach. He'd be greener if he kept up the activity of the early game, but alas.
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On March 21 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 00:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too. What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you. Damdred's case was not good. Yes it is a fact it probably (amongst some other things) makes him more townie than scum, that's where you are right on, but the case does NOT make Vivax mafia. Never. You know, i originally townread you because usually when you are scum you go ham on me for no apparent reason (like Holyflare in this game -- if you did that you would be confirmed scum). But Vivax, Holyflare and Eden actually do have a point. You look at stuff you should not look at. Like you haven't read nor you have tried to understand what i say about Superbia & LightningStrike. Apparently you think i am scum but you are not sure. It doesn't make any sense to me that YOU, of all the people in this game do not even CONSIDER what i say, if it's good or bad. You like to interact with me, yet here you don't. Instead you sheep a bad case on Vivax. I just don't think you are this bad. Because the stuff i say about my scumreads is in fact really good. I don't think Damdred's case was bad at all, though I hate that he's gone MIA ever since. Also, looking at stuff I shouldn't look at? What the fuck are you even trying to say, I look at what I find interesting and prod when I see things as I always do. As for your reads: You TR Vivax for his reads as if bussing doesn't exist. I share your concern on Superbia but I'm not as certain. I've given my reasons for why I think LS is probably town, I don't think he can be read at all like most people and his carefreeness suggests town strongly to me. I like interacting with you, yes, but that's because we've usually both been pretty clearly town from the start. That's been absent this game and I dunno if it's because you're playing two games at the same time, if it's because you're scum or some other reason. It's usually easy for me to read you as town but not this game. So you are either scum or just incapable of understanding what i say about them. Because both of the cases are 100% mafia. 100%.
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On March 20 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 20 2015 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because his scumreads are:
1) a guy he has had a read on before he can have a read on them, apparently now he agrees with what guy another person is scummy but still this guy has said nothing in value
2) another guy who scumread a third guy for the same reasons he did
##vote Damdred Isn't this the thing that Palmar pointed out earlier? No he pointed out how Damdred does not read him town while he should because of his other reads. Well yeah, that's kinda the same thing.
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On March 20 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:00 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum
all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite. Literally if you are sure i'm scum you don't need to make posts like this to convince me not to vote you. If i'm scum you do not need to break down whats wrong with my scum read TO ME. If i'm scum to you, this makes no sense to me why you post talking to me as such instead of pushing me to hell and back to get lynched. I made that post because if you are not scum you can have a reasonable answer to those things because that is where what you have said about me in this game boils down to. I also made that post to clarify to everyone else why i think what you are saying right now right here is bullshit. It makes no sense for me to "push you to hell and back to get lynched" because i am over that shit already. Likewhat the fuck is that point i don't even know?!?! But hey, it seems like you don't have a reasonable answer.. Because every time i ask you something you talk about something else.
Trying to get damdred to interact even though he scumreads damdred.
How much do you want? Are these examples of interacting by your definition? This looks like more than rolling around the thread
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On March 21 2015 03:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I've explained this multiple times. It's because of the way he went about being called out on breaking his meta. When I played against him and he was mafia he simply acknowledged it, then kept playing the way he did. In this game he strongly said he's breaking it. Very different approach. He'd be greener if he kept up the activity of the early game, but alas.
you totally did explain that more than once before. my b
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On March 21 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote:
rayn has this thing where he likes to know not just a person's reads but why they have those reads and if they make sense. that's what's absent here. that is what i am scumreading him for, and that was what i wasn't going to tell him too early in the game when he can adjust
Dude why did you reveal your trap under a little pressure?
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just to prove to me, the only person scumreading you, that you have a reason? -.-
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On March 21 2015 03:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 00:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 21 2015 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too. What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you. Damdred's case was not good. Yes it is a fact it probably (amongst some other things) makes him more townie than scum, that's where you are right on, but the case does NOT make Vivax mafia. Never. You know, i originally townread you because usually when you are scum you go ham on me for no apparent reason (like Holyflare in this game -- if you did that you would be confirmed scum). But Vivax, Holyflare and Eden actually do have a point. You look at stuff you should not look at. Like you haven't read nor you have tried to understand what i say about Superbia & LightningStrike. Apparently you think i am scum but you are not sure. It doesn't make any sense to me that YOU, of all the people in this game do not even CONSIDER what i say, if it's good or bad. You like to interact with me, yet here you don't. Instead you sheep a bad case on Vivax. I just don't think you are this bad. Because the stuff i say about my scumreads is in fact really good. I don't think Damdred's case was bad at all, though I hate that he's gone MIA ever since. Also, looking at stuff I shouldn't look at? What the fuck are you even trying to say, I look at what I find interesting and prod when I see things as I always do. As for your reads: You TR Vivax for his reads as if bussing doesn't exist. I share your concern on Superbia but I'm not as certain. I've given my reasons for why I think LS is probably town, I don't think he can be read at all like most people and his carefreeness suggests town strongly to me. I like interacting with you, yes, but that's because we've usually both been pretty clearly town from the start. That's been absent this game and I dunno if it's because you're playing two games at the same time, if it's because you're scum or some other reason. It's usually easy for me to read you as town but not this game. So you are either scum or just incapable of understanding what i say about them. Because both of the cases are 100% mafia. 100%. long convo with artanis Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2015 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 20 2015 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred is mafia because his scumreads are:
1) a guy he has had a read on before he can have a read on them, apparently now he agrees with what guy another person is scummy but still this guy has said nothing in value
2) another guy who scumread a third guy for the same reasons he did
##vote Damdred Isn't this the thing that Palmar pointed out earlier? No he pointed out how Damdred does not read him town while he should because of his other reads. Well yeah, that's kinda the same thing. interaction with VE Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2015 03:00 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread:
(1) you literally claim you have read my posts
(2) my reads apparently align with yours
(3) you read me scum
all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite. Literally if you are sure i'm scum you don't need to make posts like this to convince me not to vote you. If i'm scum you do not need to break down whats wrong with my scum read TO ME. If i'm scum to you, this makes no sense to me why you post talking to me as such instead of pushing me to hell and back to get lynched. I made that post because if you are not scum you can have a reasonable answer to those things because that is where what you have said about me in this game boils down to. I also made that post to clarify to everyone else why i think what you are saying right now right here is bullshit. It makes no sense for me to "push you to hell and back to get lynched" because i am over that shit already. Likewhat the fuck is that point i don't even know?!?! But hey, it seems like you don't have a reasonable answer.. Because every time i ask you something you talk about something else. Trying to get damdred to interact even though he scumreads damdred. How much do you want? Are these examples of interacting by your definition? This looks like more than rolling around the thread
i don't know how to explain this to you, which is kind of frustrating
are any of these conversations at all initiated by rayn for the purpose of figuring out other people's alignments? or are they reactions to the threads/answers to other people's questions?
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So I'm Artanis weak and only scumread.
tsssssss
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On March 21 2015 03:38 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 03:35 rsoultin wrote:
rayn has this thing where he likes to know not just a person's reads but why they have those reads and if they make sense. that's what's absent here. that is what i am scumreading him for, and that was what i wasn't going to tell him too early in the game when he can adjust Dude why did you reveal your trap under a little pressure?
i revealed it awhile ago under no pressure?
it's been long enough for him to prove he's townie to me and now it's time to get the lynch settled
how do you not understand this? lol
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On March 21 2015 03:40 Vivax wrote:
So I'm Artanis weak and only scumread.
tsssssss
What can I say, I'm not good at catching mafia other than by poe. The only time I ever truly caught mafia was when I vig shot Mocsta in one game.
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holyflare are you still alive or is it sleep time in that far away place
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On March 21 2015 03:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2015 03:40 Vivax wrote:
So I'm Artanis weak and only scumread.
tsssssss What can I say, I'm not good at catching mafia other than by poe. The only time I ever truly caught mafia was when I vig shot Mocsta in one game.
Except that the point you scumread me at was the Damdred case, not some PoE you came up with on your own.
And the waffling is very strong in you.
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