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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:11 GMT
#6841
On March 26 2015 10:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why so hostile, Slam?

Because being pissed is generally better than this cold unreasonable sudden sadness, not going there, and I have a lot of reason to be pissed anyway

But I have done nothing to antagonize you. I simply believe my reason for townreading Vivax is highly likely to be correct. What are you looking for from me exactly?

Oh I am equal opportunity pissed, you should see the blue fire i hissed at Vivax and eden

That doesn't really answer my question. What do you want me to say so that this conversation can actually become productive?

It doesn't actually need to continue. You can be any alignment and find Vivax town because it makes general sense.

I know that TL scumteam are smart enough to be unconventional. How do we have two vigilante just strikes me as less likely than one got away with a fakeclaim somehow and has been running with it since.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 26 2015 01:12 GMT
#6842
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 26 2015 01:15 GMT
#6843
On March 26 2015 10:09 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
What do you want to hear, slam?

I dunno, you tell me

Why do people want to lynch you? Have you had time this game? Have you done some scummy thing?

Why do you th- actually do you even think Vivax is town?

They want to lynch me because I had high activity and made a case on scum early on but failed to follow through with people after my case and my activity has dropped drastically. (High early game activity that drops off is a scum trait, no argument on that)

I had the past two days off (mon/tues) and was running errands, making questionable business transactions and playing DnD. Don't care if this excuses my activity or not, it's the truth.

I often am scummed at by scum when my activity drops off which leads to a lot of omgus. Right now I have no real reason to call vivax or eden scum but I'm certainly scowling at them.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:16 GMT
#6844
On March 26 2015 10:12 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.

Vivax could BE the rb.

Come on, srs
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 26 2015 01:17 GMT
#6845
Of the two vig claims, if one of them is fake it is vivax for sure.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 26 2015 01:17 GMT
#6846
On March 26 2015 10:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:04 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why so hostile, Slam?

Because being pissed is generally better than this cold unreasonable sudden sadness, not going there, and I have a lot of reason to be pissed anyway

But I have done nothing to antagonize you. I simply believe my reason for townreading Vivax is highly likely to be correct. What are you looking for from me exactly?

Oh I am equal opportunity pissed, you should see the blue fire i hissed at Vivax and eden

That doesn't really answer my question. What do you want me to say so that this conversation can actually become productive?

It doesn't actually need to continue. You can be any alignment and find Vivax town because it makes general sense.

I know that TL scumteam are smart enough to be unconventional. How do we have two vigilante just strikes me as less likely than one got away with a fakeclaim somehow and has been running with it since.

I think you highly overestimate Vivax' capabilities as mafia if you believe he can be mafia this game. I find that much less likely than us having two vigis.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 26 2015 01:17 GMT
#6847
On March 26 2015 10:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:12 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.

Vivax could BE the rb.

Come on, srs


Okay. So do you think he RB'd toad? or just randomly used the RB to hunt for other PR's?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 26 2015 01:18 GMT
#6848
On March 26 2015 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the two vig claims, if one of them is fake it is vivax for sure.


why
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:18 GMT
#6849
Rb is so much wifom. Anyone can be rb that is VT but a scum claiming a role and holding RB for cred is classic, classic, ballsy scum play.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:19 GMT
#6850
On March 26 2015 10:17 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:12 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.

Vivax could BE the rb.

Come on, srs


Okay. So do you think he RB'd toad? or just randomly used the RB to hunt for other PR's?

Holy fuck how stupid do you think I am? Toad shot went through. He wasn't blocked. Wow.

Anyone could have been rb if rb isn't notified, but since it is Vivax would have to be scum with scum withholding rb. Although anyone else rb last night, EH?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:20 GMT
#6851
On March 26 2015 10:18 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
Of the two vig claims, if one of them is fake it is vivax for sure.


why

Because toad's shot hit it's mark.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:21 GMT
#6852
Although he could technically be scum too, I doubt it because palmar
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 26 2015 01:22 GMT
#6853
I need to go listen to Chezinu. Anger not the solution to sadness.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 26 2015 01:22 GMT
#6854
what slam said
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 26 2015 01:24 GMT
#6855
On March 26 2015 10:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2015 10:17 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:16 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 26 2015 10:12 Breshke wrote:
On March 26 2015 09:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Why is Vivax claim assumed to be true? Why is a blue heavy setup assumed?


This is what i was reffering to. As Rso did not jail exo we can not 100% confirm that there was a role blocker. Which if she had we very most likely could have.

From someone who hasn't ead much of the game slam i think it would be useful fo you to decide weather or not the scum team has a RB. It is obviously very likely that they do. Idc if this is all wifom but what was the RB doing N1 if he was not role-blocking vivax.

Also damdred i said the LS thing before the BM lynch. I honestly can not remember why i didn't come back to it during N1 it might have been because rso convinced me otherwise or because talk was mainly domianted about the vig claims and what not. This would have been the only time for me to bring it up again because trefel came out early with a tracker claim.

Also if you are going to use the fact that palmar basically ignored me this game as a part of a reason to scumread me what is your read on FF because can the same not be said about him. I think I have been mainly passed over by a lot of people this game not for a fault in them but because ive been uninteresting and have done nothing. This was apart of the original reason i townread you damdred because you were the first person to bring me up for legitimate reasons and not just pass me over.

Vivax could BE the rb.

Come on, srs


Okay. So do you think he RB'd toad? or just randomly used the RB to hunt for other PR's?

Holy fuck how stupid do you think I am? Toad shot went through. He wasn't blocked. Wow.

Anyone could have been rb if rb isn't notified, but since it is Vivax would have to be scum with scum withholding rb. Although anyone else rb last night, EH?


I don't think you dumb? Im just trying to get where you are at.

W/e ill go do more work then
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 26 2015 01:30 GMT
#6856
Artanis, why do you think that Onegu is town?

While this post failed to account for Onegu's read on rsoultin and the fact that Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, I think it is correct in that there is no real downside for mafia fake-claiming vigilante, and there is incentive to do so.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 26 2015 01:32 GMT
#6857
I just realized Breshke only has 6 pages of filter. Looking at some of his other towngames this really worries me. In Horn he's had 16 pages by D3. In Student he was about this pace as town but Student only totaled 128 pages whereas this one is up to 343.

Gotta look into him a bit more I guess
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 26 2015 01:34 GMT
#6858
On March 26 2015 10:30 Trfel wrote:
Artanis, why do you think that Onegu is town?

While this post failed to account for Onegu's read on rsoultin and the fact that Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, I think it is correct in that there is no real downside for mafia fake-claiming vigilante, and there is incentive to do so.

I did some meta reading.
On March 25 2015 23:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay there's something in Onegu's tone I noticed in Neat & Tidy (mafia) that struck my eye because it felt very un-Oneguish.
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2014 13:41 Onegu wrote:
Yeah its not me never has been.

Rayn is the only thing that makes sense. He played me all game and I was wrong thinking I could read him.

Guys please dig my filter and realize its not me. If you fools want to know the reason its not me 100%, I have rolled scum I believe 7 times, of those 7 times I have won 2. A newbie and when I was paired with Marv and Sylencia. In most of the other games rayn it was you who had me pinned as mafia day 1/2 for legit reasons.

The only thing that stuck in my craw yesterday about rayn and makeing me feel he is scum today besides PoE. Is this, i push kush yesterday, rayn then comes into the thread throws his vote on kush, I follow with my vote. He then asks why I feel kush is mafia even though I have already given it, rayn even though voteing kush never gives his reason for voteing kush until late in the day after being pushed for it.

There's something that feels very defeatist about this, and it's formulated in a way very differently to how Onegu said he's fine with getting lynched this game. It feels more... theatrical, like he has to put on a show. Onegu this game has not felt like he's putting on a show at all. I think I'm going to go with town onegu for now.


Also Palmar seemingly committing on Onegu if he doesn't claim (which, if Onegu is mafia, Palmar already knows Onegu can't/won't do) is also an argument in his favour.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 26 2015 01:41 GMT
#6859
Okay after checking Breshke's scumgames he seems much more aggressive in them, calling people out and being very certain of himself which is in contrast to both his last two towngames and this game so he goes into townpile.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 26 2015 01:48 GMT
#6860
On March 25 2015 02:26 Vivax wrote:
So Artanis pretends he'd scumread Palmar or Slam based on his PoE but watch how he starts doing other stuff during the day.

My prediction is that if Onegu finally hard claims he's going hard on superbia, keeps pushing the notion that Trfel hard bussed LS, or is going to keep picking on ritoky.

Mark my words.

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