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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote: According to your former reasoning they have equal chance. Why has Slam lower prob now? Fecalfeast's claim to town status is making a solid case on mafia that he promptly drops and never revisits. Slam's claim to town status is an unawareness of the game state that seems virtually impossible to reconcile with a mafia mindset. I'm far more convinced by the latter rn | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:34 Vivax wrote: If you think you can't read him you can't think he's town? At the very least you should assume that you aren't able to think he is either? Even if I can't read him and drop my town read that's null. Which is still irrational to lynch over scum | ||
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Vivax
22312 Posts
But since it's a meta reason it still doesn't allow me to read Slam properly. But it allows me an insight into scum motives. Objectively the only other possible reason is that scum hoped my RB would put suspicion on me, but then only Toad attempted to push that notion Start of D2 and nobody else tried to reinforce it. Objectively the only other possible reason is that I'm scum and fakeclaimed vig and fakeclaimed a RB? Objectively the other possible reason is that they didn't know who else to RB anyway? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:38 Vivax wrote: Objectively the other possible reason is that they didn't know who else to RB anyway? This is kinda where I am now. Admittedly I forgot about the Rb.... | ||
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Vivax
22312 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote: This is so confusing Vivax. Do you not think FF is mafia? The core idea here was yours for goodness' sake. But now that I'm actually down to pursue it you're wanting to lynch someone because they're hard to read and you don't want them in LYLO? Why not just avoid ever getting to LYLO by lynching mafia? I do think FF is mafia but my current PoE also says Slam is mafia and I want to lynch Slam first cause I wanted to get rid of him N1 and to get rid of this fucking discussion that makes me starkraving mad whenever I want to lynch players like him. The grush57's, Chezinus and Slams of this world. I want a troll genocide on this forum so I can win games by reading people who allow themselves to be read, instead of keeping them around as an asset to mafia. | ||
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Vivax
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It's personal too. | ||
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Vivax
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:42 Vivax wrote: I do think FF is mafia but my current PoE also says Slam is mafia and I want to lynch Slam first cause I wanted to get rid of him N1 and to get rid of this fucking discussion that makes me starkraving mad whenever I want to lynch players like him. The grush57's, Chezinus and Slams of this world. I want a troll genocide on this forum so I can win games by reading people who allow themselves to be read, instead of keeping them around as an asset to mafia. Dang tell me how you really feel. Lol I'm just not sold on it yet, sorry. I'll think on it but I believe FF is the wiser choice. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On March 22 2015 12:11 Breshke wrote: So if onegu and rayn arnt mason they are mafia. This means that rso did not get a save. This means it is very likely toad is mafia because either mafia double stacked HF when there was no reason too. Or mafia also shot VE. I still haven't read a lot of what happend in the night and probs wont get to but I cant think why mafia would do that other than his PR claim Also a chance mafia hit a vet but idk how likely that is breshke if you're around where are you at with regards to this earlier post? | ||
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Vivax
22312 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:45 Eden1892 wrote: If it makes you feel better we can still hit Slam with the orb I could say the same about FF. There is really no rational basis for you to spare slam on this day except your ego, which is the ego that makes policy lynches impossible in the games in which they are really needed. It's not even that much of a policy lynch for me. I can think of some reasons for slam being scum I already have mentioned. But it's in the nature of the troll to be able to hide himself behind the argument that his lynch is "just a policy lynch", diffaming everyone pushing for him. They are a massive annoyance to this game and people will invent all sort of stupid reasons to let them live until they reach the point where ONE lynch decides the outcome of the game, and mafia as well as town can go like "Well up until this point I've TR'd everyone else so let's lynch this guy nobody ever bothered with cause I've run out of options". Get rid of Slam now and you will at the very least know where everybody really stands if we ever reach a lylo situation. Cause town will have to find scum in their townreads and scum will have to make up scumreads from their townreads. | ||
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Vivax
22312 Posts
But Slam is neither. Slam is Chupazi, Bamci and whatever else but whether he's town or scum is like believing in horoscopes, I don't give a shit about what you think of him, I want SCIENCE here ![[image loading]](http://img.pandawhale.com/37126-yeah-science-gif-hNTV.gif) .He can do whatever the fuck he wants as either alignment so let's just shoot him to the moon and live happy in the knowledge that 2 -3 scum are actually people playing the game like it's supposed to. Cause only a standard dictated by a majority of townies allows us to find scum, like you need textbooks made by a democracy to define what's a criminal. Slam is the anarchic scum. | ||
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Everyone really needs to read breshke filter and stop being lazy and give opinions, instead of talking abou tpolicy lynching slam/oneg at this point. | ||
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Damdred
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Vivax
22312 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:15 Damdred wrote: btw I think its really depressing and stupid you guys are basically discussing POLICY lynching people after we killed two mafia instead of diving into their filters and looking for connections or weird interacitons between them. Everyone really needs to read breshke filter and stop being lazy and give opinions, instead of talking abou tpolicy lynching slam/oneg at this point. See this is the common mistake everyone makes. POLICY LYNCHING IS BAD. NO ITS NOT. Cause you can call policy lynching shit at any stage of the game no matter what your alignment is or the aligment of the person in question and it's like being Galileo facing the ignorant "The earth is flat"-opinion-pushers from the catholic church when he argues why the earth is round and instead of arguing about the shape of the earth the priests just go full chimpanzee and say "no the earth is flat, here let me flog you a bit for this bullshit" POLICY LYNCHING. DO IT. | ||
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Vivax
22312 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote: I mean this is all fine and good if we lynch slam tomorrow but at least make today meaningful and try to talk about othe rpeople while you are at it for gods sake. If you're fine with lynching Slam tomorrow then you should also be fine with it today cause I don't see any reason for your opinion changing on "policy lynching is shit". | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:54 Vivax wrote: I could say the same about FF. There is really no rational basis for you to spare slam on this day except your ego, which is the ego that makes policy lynches impossible in the games in which they are really needed. It's not even that much of a policy lynch for me. I can think of some reasons for slam being scum I already have mentioned. But it's in the nature of the troll to be able to hide himself behind the argument that his lynch is "just a policy lynch", diffaming everyone pushing for him. They are a massive annoyance to this game and people will invent all sort of stupid reasons to let them live until they reach the point where ONE lynch decides the outcome of the game, and mafia as well as town can go like "Well up until this point I've TR'd everyone else so let's lynch this guy nobody ever bothered with cause I've run out of options". Get rid of Slam now and you will at the very least know where everybody really stands if we ever reach a lylo situation. Cause town will have to find scum in their townreads and scum will have to make up scumreads from their townreads. What in gods name does my ego have to do with wanting to use our remaining orb to deal with a supposedly unreadable player and wanting to lynch someone I actually think is mafia? | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Since its what the thread wants its what it will get, a total lackluster approach to a day where no worthwhile discussion or attempt to get peoples alignments right or any work what so ever just fighting who to policy lynch because they are scared of them in lylo | ||
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