On March 25 2015 07:40 Trfel wrote:
Given what I've stated above, I don't think this can be in doubt any longer. But as further evidence, here are my night actions.

Night 1: I had the orb, and thus was not allowed to use my jailkeeper ability.
Night 2: I was too busy typing up this post, so I didn't have time to send in the action. Sorry, guys.

Very likely.

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:44 GMT

#6205

On March 25 2015 07:43 Eden1892 wrote:
you were supposed to post that before the mafia's nightkills were locked trfel

But then, they would just kill me. This way, I get another day to make sure I can force rsoultin's lynch through.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 24 2015 22:45 GMT

#6206

On March 25 2015 07:43 Breshke wrote:
Trefel is this serious?

Were you just lurking the entire time?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 24 2015 22:46 GMT

#6207

lololol

YOU CAUGHT ME TRUFFLE! (i'll only admit it to you cause i <3 you and not onegu xP shh don't tell anyone)

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

March 24 2015 22:46 GMT

#6208

Also I'm confirmed town for actually reading through that entirely.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

March 24 2015 22:46 GMT

#6209

Thirdly, where the fuck is Onegu and his partner? They were claiming tonight at EoN.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

March 24 2015 22:46 GMT

#6210

LEGACIES ARE FOR CHUMPS

Ze Confirmeds

Bill Murray - RIP
Holyflare - RIP
VisceraEyes - RIP
Rsoultin -
Vivax - LS did not change his vote from scum!Vivax to town!BM when given the opportunity
Trfel - I don't believe in aliens (read: complicated bussing conspiracy theories are silly)

Nearly Confirmed Claimants

Toadesstern - 1-for-1 trade incentive super low
Onegu - Vote on LS 5v4 bad momentum for unnecessary buss pre-vig claim; mason claim

Super Townies!!

::All of the following were invigorated by the red check, provided original analysis and interesting insights.::

Eden1892
Artanis + Show Spoiler +
I just don't see the problems with his filter than others do. Not really sure what else to say about it.
Damdred
Sicklucker + Show Spoiler +
Something about the eagerness to be townread and all the WIFOMy goodness screams town Sicklucker to me. I've waffled on him a lot this game (and I'm terrible at reading him anyway, so please take this with a grain of salt) but he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down despite the autolynch.

Beware the Sleeperz...

::There may be some mafia in here...these are the players I feel are probably town, but have reservations about::

ExO_ + Show Spoiler +
There are a lot of things about his claim that add up...his interest in all the blue claims, for one, including the certainty that one of the vigilantes was fake. A cop check on me when he was most suspicious of me.

And yet...

I can't get it out of my head how little interest he's shown in solving the game. With the claim to have tracked LightningStrike to Holyflare, instead ExO_ focused on me. Which is fine. Except he never came back in to work with the new information on LightningStrike after his "blunder". His response to the lynch was nothing but yelling. The analysis is not there.

So why would scum potentially make this play? To get townread, maybe, because a simple check back into the OP confirms it was an alignment check and he can just say "oops" once I flip, which has the combined benefit of possibly casting doubt on me while getting him a free townread. I still mostly think he's town, but please don't let him just ride out his claim...he's done diddly other than that screw-up.
Breshke + Show Spoiler +
Most of his posting and observations look good to me on the surface, but his hyper-focus on Onegu Day 2 basically to the exclusion of all else sits uncomfortably with me. I feel like as town he can provide a lot more than he actually has, but maybe that will improve Day 3.
Palmar + Show Spoiler +
Metaread, plus the comments catching up weren't bad. The lazy disinterest is real. Palmar tries as scum, and he certainly wasn't trying here. Plus, Breshke is right...Palmar does not approve of bussing on scum teams he's on, and I have a hard time believing LightningStrike would defy that sort of advice and keep throwing scum on him if they were scum together.

That Inactive Slam ...Nough Said

Scummerz

Rayn/Ritoky + Show Spoiler +
Gonna focus in on ritoky here, cause the issues with Rayn are myriad and have been hammered a lot...talking about sicklucker's claim wasn't particularly helpful. Sicklucker does all manner of things as town (and scum) and anyone who has played with sicklucker long is unlikely to have much of an opinion on the matter.

More to the point, his push against Eden was bad. He tried to paint this idea that Eden should react differently to a substitution followed by a rescinded claim when:

1. In XXX Eden was already townreading Damdred before he replaced out vice scumreading Rayn here.
2. In XXX Damdred's claim wasn't under dispute, while Rayn's claim here has been greatly disputed, which essentially means that it's actually safer for scum to rescind here with a claimed cop.

Additionally, even though this can be explained by having replaced into a generally scumread slot, ritoky is very tense here.
Superbia + Show Spoiler +
Though he gave other reads, they didn't develop. Superbia started the day scumreading LightningStrike and sicklucker and ended the day the same way. It's already been said, but his push to get either LightningStrike or sicklucker lynched was half-assed at best during the wagon-switching. That plus none of the interest shown by most of the other players throughout Day 2 makes him a strong scum candidate.
Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler +
Ironic that his name came up. I've been thinking this for awhile. Apart from the one case on LightningStrike and the one case on me (and I'm still not entirely sure why he dropped that case when he did) Fecalfeast has been lackluster. His activity greatly fell of in Day 2 without contributing much of anything at all.

ZE REAL SCUM: HALF THE SKY

;o;

Why can't LightningStrike and I ever be the same alignment in your games? WHY?!?!?!

Clearly you are the most evil of evils!

Some additional thoughts to keep in mind:

- There's still something squirrely about so many blues in the game. Someone is lying, but I don't know who :/ The most likely is actually Onegu imo, despite ranking him higher than ExO_...I still believe that it's bad play for scum to buss vote as he did, but frankly...scum do play bad sometimes and not everyone agrees with me on what good play is anyway lol
- Toad being scum explains missing KP...very neatly. I don't think he is, but it's something to keep in mind.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 24 2015 22:48 GMT

#6211

wtf is going on

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

March 24 2015 22:49 GMT

#6212

Well Rso is very likely to actually get shot as claimed JK so it's good she's leaving a will.

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 24 2015 22:50 GMT

#6213

this game and its pants-on-head claims smh

we all gonna have a long talk about claiming after this is over

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:50 GMT

#6214

Of course you are indestructible, rsoultin... You're scum. You're not dying tonight.

You even admitted it.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

March 24 2015 22:51 GMT

#6215

On March 25 2015 07:50 Eden1892 wrote:
this game and its pants-on-head claims smh

we all gonna have a long talk about claiming after this is over

People have already forgotten about my Vet fakeclaim into Vet claim, I'm so sad

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 24 2015 22:52 GMT

#6216

Eden's Legacy Post

fuck y'all and your shitty claims

I'm the jailer

Eden1892

United States5866 Posts

March 24 2015 22:52 GMT

#6217

not actually

Trfel

7015 Posts

March 24 2015 22:52 GMT

#6218

On March 25 2015 07:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Show nested quote +

People have already forgotten about my Vet fakeclaim into Vet claim, I'm so sad

It's okay, because I'm fake vet. And I think we're allowed to have both a fake vet and a real vet in the game.

Otherwise, you're getting lynched. So you only really have one answer.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12970 Posts

March 24 2015 22:53 GMT

#6219

Btw if for some reason I end up getting shot tonight then there's probably at least one fake blue in the lineup because with so many claimed blues that are considered top towns I should not be shot.

Most likely Onegu or ExO_ in that case.