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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2015 23:31 GMT
#5081


lolol

okay well i'm gonna peace out for awhile. thread is nice when people aren't growling constantly at each other lol (says the pot)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 22 2015 23:33 GMT
#5082
On March 23 2015 08:31 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:24 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:20 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:17 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:
i won't

i'll give vivax his due respect by not clogging the thread with investigating leads i don't think will find scum

gosh thanks, instead you you sit back giggling while I'm treading through hell that is having to deal with it


your responses were townie and helped with any niggling doubts?

plus they did finally get viva off your back so...win/win? lol

if only this would last longer than 12 hours

[image loading]

I was about to ask to get shot during night but with all the cop claims and whatnot that seems pretty unlikely atm... I'm legit scared of mafia trying to put me in any kind of lylo that involves vivax and me, on purpose.

I don't want to antagonize Vivax further than I already have, but asking to get shot is never a good idea because shooting mafia prevents lylo from ever happening in the first place. That seems like a better idea than betting on Vivax being right at lylo by shooting the townies he suspects.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#5083
On March 23 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also whilst catching up I noticed you were annoyed that I'm simply calling you town for your filter length, and that you were worried about future games.

I don't need to dig into your filter to know you're town because the filter length plus the eden soulread plus jk claim is enough for me to realize you're town already. I'm sure you're town for other reasons too, but why would I look for them when I'm already almost certain you're town? Seems like a better idea to look into other people.


meh i know everyone has different opinions as to how people should play the game and i really did clutter this thread up quite a bit needlessly lol i don't post that much just to get townread

(in all honesty i might have overcompensated to avoid looking timid...i'm not used to playing blue ><)

eh i just get chided for leading town poorly, then not leading town, then this then that and i don't know what to do anymore lol but that's for post-game i guess

my advice is to just go. keep doing whatever is coming to mind as a good idea. you see something, say something about it. i would have never checked back on ray's claim and found the gem i found if damdred hadn't suggested something about ray and ls that i didn't understand from context

and don't worry about leadership either. as much as we like to hype up individual plays made by individual players when we talk about mafia, mafia is fundamentally a team game. you don't have to lead or carry any games to be good at this game. you just have to be observant, mindful, and confident in yourself and your instincts. if you find something good then the leadership will come in time
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 22 2015 23:34 GMT
#5084
I formulated the post above horribly.
What I meant to say whilst rabid foam was erupting from my mouth was that it's better to shoot at mafia than at townies, even if said townies are being scumread by Vivax.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#5085
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 22 2015 23:54 GMT
#5086
LS isn't the rb he can't be. Vivax was rb supposedly, IF LS flips rb viv Prolly Scum I doubt hts let's someone block and carry a kp
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 22 2015 23:56 GMT
#5087
On March 23 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
LS isn't the rb he can't be. Vivax was rb supposedly, IF LS flips rb viv Prolly Scum I doubt hts let's someone block and carry a kp

8 Any given scum can deliver a faction kill as well as any KP granted by the orb.


I'd take that as anyone can deliver KP.
It's usually you don't have to pick anyone to deliver at all and it's thus not trackable or everyone can deliver even if they have roles.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:10 GMT
#5088
On March 23 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.

bitch please i was n1'd in my first newbie game while the doc was knowingly rb'd
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:11 GMT
#5089
On March 23 2015 08:56 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
LS isn't the rb he can't be. Vivax was rb supposedly, IF LS flips rb viv Prolly Scum I doubt hts let's someone block and carry a kp

Show nested quote +
8 Any given scum can deliver a faction kill as well as any KP granted by the orb.


I'd take that as anyone can deliver KP.
It's usually you don't have to pick anyone to deliver at all and it's thus not trackable or everyone can deliver even if they have roles.

i think what damdred is saying isn't that goon has to deliver kp, but that you can't both rb someone and deliver kp with the same person

+ Show Spoiler +
lol how clinical is "deliver kp"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 23 2015 00:12 GMT
#5090
On March 23 2015 09:10 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Eden stop being so team minded, you might actually earn a NK that isn't a medic dodge for once.

bitch please i was n1'd in my first newbie game while the doc was knowingly rb'd

I was giving you a backhanded compliment, take it or leave it.

So..
On March 22 2015 21:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can we start by ticking off the people who are clearly town and the reasons for them just to make sure we're not missing anything?
Vivax - Confirmed town by virtue of 21 pages of posting in a short amount of time, tryharding even after he didn't need to anymore to get off a shot, and working to solve the game.
Rsoultin - Confirmed town by virtue of 26 fucking pages of filter as well as Eden's rock hard... townread on her.
Toadesstern - Confirmed town by virtue of counterclaiming vig in a situation where it makes no sense for scum to do so, actively, strongly and genuinely pushing the initial claim, and afterwards coming to the realization that his push was probably town and work towards solving the game.
FecalFeast - Went after SL without trying to bury him. Has been trying to figure the game out, made a strong and detailed case against LS.
Trfel - Can't be scum with Superbia who looks pretty scummy already, plus checked LS with the orb which caused him to concede.
Artanis[Xp] - Making lots of observations that are difficult to make as scum, 20 pages, very fluid reads.
Damdred - Wall of texts in the kind that he only makes as town. Have never seen him make anything even remotely similar as scum.
Eden1892 - Has been actively trying to solve the game and seems to be even more motivated with the current turn of events. Generally being a town hero the past night.

Anything you don't find very convincing here?


Taking
ExO_ I can't possibly see as mafia on further reflection. Let's look at what we have to assume for this to be true:
- ExO_ seeded being the cop in several posts prior to claiming
- ExO_ fakeclaimed cop with a green check on someone then argued the target was the godfather instead of just claiming a red check
- ExO_ didn't bother to look at the role he was fakeclaiming to see whether it was an alignment cop or role cop
- ExO_ brought the argument to rsoultin when he wasn't directly under pressure at the time, putting himself in the hot seat just to try to maybe get a jailer claim mislynched

Does that sound like anything resembling a good plan to anybody? How about instead ExO_ is the real cop, didn't realize he was only an alignment cop due to getting a check that used the same name as a specific role, and claimed to force someone he thought was fakeclaiming to explain themselves? Yeah Eden that makes a lot more sense.
into consideration from Eden and adding him to the list, is there anyone on the list that you disagree with Eden?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#5091
We'd have eliminated 9/16 players from being scum. If Onegu is confirmed mason with a partner that isn't inside that team we'd actually be at 11/16 and the rest would be PoE.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#5092
Yes for example LS was tracked to hf not to vivax. If he is the rb how did vivax not shoot?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 23 2015 00:14 GMT
#5093
Oh no wait there's 17 players, I just forgot since on my spreadsheet I'm already the confirmed town green.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 23 2015 00:15 GMT
#5094
On March 23 2015 09:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 08:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 23 2015 08:54 Damdred wrote:
LS isn't the rb he can't be. Vivax was rb supposedly, IF LS flips rb viv Prolly Scum I doubt hts let's someone block and carry a kp

8 Any given scum can deliver a faction kill as well as any KP granted by the orb.


I'd take that as anyone can deliver KP.
It's usually you don't have to pick anyone to deliver at all and it's thus not trackable or everyone can deliver even if they have roles.

i think what damdred is saying isn't that goon has to deliver kp, but that you can't both rb someone and deliver kp with the same person

+ Show Spoiler +
lol how clinical is "deliver kp"

yeah I know, but that's usually not the case as far as I know?

I mean I'm all up for killing rayn first so we're done with him and vivax calling him mafia but I don't think anyone would say you have to have a goon to kill someone. What happens if the team has more KP than vanilla mafias? That'd be huge town-buff in comparison to the games where you don't have to send anyone and the kills "just happen"
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 23 2015 00:16 GMT
#5095
*done with rayn and vivax calling me mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
March 23 2015 00:17 GMT
#5096
On March 23 2015 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Yes for example LS was tracked to hf not to vivax. If he is the rb how did vivax not shoot?

Good point. I have a theory that's better not to explain until post night though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 23 2015 00:18 GMT
#5097
Also it probably means that Rayn visited vivax and told the truth in case the orb tracked him so people couldn't say he lied. Rayn is probable rb
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 23 2015 00:19 GMT
#5098
On March 23 2015 09:18 Damdred wrote:
Also it probably means that Rayn visited vivax and told the truth in case the orb tracked him so people couldn't say he lied. Rayn is probable rb

that DOES make sense
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:21 GMT
#5099
On March 23 2015 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2015 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Yes for example LS was tracked to hf not to vivax. If he is the rb how did vivax not shoot?

Good point. I have a theory that's better not to explain until post night though.

explain at EON then if you don't mind

and yeah outside of FF hardcore and I mean HARDCORE busing LS d1, i can't see anybody in that list being mafia rn
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#5100
On March 23 2015 09:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh no wait there's 17 players, I just forgot since on my spreadsheet I'm already the confirmed town green.

one of those is LS so really it's 9/16 with 4 mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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