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On March 22 2015 22:14 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 22:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 22 2015 22:08 Vivax wrote:On March 22 2015 22:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 22 2015 22:05 Vivax wrote: Artanis feels like you decided to TR Toad before even reading that post or you wouldn't claim that SL was his town read, since you would actually have read it properly. I have TR Toad ever since he CCed you because it makes no sense from a mafia PoV. I thought this was obvious by now. When you say "it makes no sense from a PoV" you enter the wifom. When you go back to one thing and claim it makes someone mafia, then ignore the rest of their game, you enter the Vivax zone. I don't buy that Toad CCed for a 1 for 1 as scum, could push you as convinced as he was, end up TRing you because of good argumentation (mine) and then proceed to attempt to solve the game. The town narrative makes much, much more sense. How am I ignoring the rest of Toad's game? I've scumread him for the Palmar overreaction, I scumread him for the overreaction towards me, for picking the low hanging fruit when he doesn't even have a read on them, for jumping on the biggest wagon in a faked fit of rage, for shooting a guy who wasn't even in his list previously and doesn't fit into the Alakaslam category, for fucking off most of the night, for trying to use the RB on me against me. I have information from every phase on Toad. Also I'm removing rayn from the possible scummers as that is way more tinfoil than a mafia Toad. Palmar overreaction can be explained from the fact that in Hammertime Palmar just shouted Kill Toad a lot and got a Town Toad lynched that way, though I can understand it as I was skeptical of him at that point too. His reaction against you is not an overreaction if he's a vig and sees another vig claim. As for picking the low hanging fruit, who, you and Palmar? Lol. As for faking rage, that's an impression I really didn't have. Toad seems sincere to me all the way. Shooting VE is kinda weird from his perspective though and probably the best point you have on him. I'm okay with hearing more from him explaining why he did that.
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On March 22 2015 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: SL if Toad is mafia and they just used the two shots they have to shoot HF/VE, where does rso's JK claim come in and does it make her scum to you?
It makes her bad. I think you only claim if your 100% sure its a save. This is like maybe he was saved? its useless information but im still going with my original townread on her for now
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On March 22 2015 22:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 22:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Of course he ended up screaming about you; you claimed vig, a role he had and did not believe there could be two of. Unless this is from a stage where you hadn't claimed yet. He screamed about me after I posted the thing where I said that expecting somebody to always play the same as an alignment is wrong, more or less. That was before the claim. See? You aren't even bothering to read him properly. Or I did read properly but I don't memorize 240 pages of thread out of my head. I remember that now and I thought him pointing out your hypocrisy was actually quite understandable. He just didn't realize you're a hypocrite as town too.
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On March 22 2015 22:19 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: SL if Toad is mafia and they just used the two shots they have to shoot HF/VE, where does rso's JK claim come in and does it make her scum to you? It makes her bad. I think you only claim if your 100% sure its a save. This is like maybe he was saved? its useless information but im still going with my original townread on her for now So you think mafia just shot VE/HF with their two shots and Toad is vanilla scum and mafia didn't really have any plan to explain the missing kill and their plan was to have Toad claim the VE kill even if VE wasn't on his original scumread list?
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If toad is scum.rso is also.simple.as.that
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Or we can collectively decide that the person with the longest filter in the game that is being hard townread by a near confirmed townie in Eden is probably not scum. That sounds like a better idea.
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And I'm happy to be killed.at.this point to prove I'm not mafia and confirm my mason partner. So you can believe I was shot... or that rsoul is scum
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Onegu who IS your mason partner? If you lie about it one more time I will policy lynch you D3.
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We need rayn in here to whip town into shape.
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Onegu im not saying the fact hf died and I knew he was faking a role clears me as town. But can you at least agree its points in my favor? Why would I ever let my mafia team nk a likely medic save that I know is faking a role?
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On March 22 2015 22:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Onegu who IS your mason partner? If you lie about it one more time I will policy lynch you D3.
Fine lynch me
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Also rtoulin why didnt you save hf...?
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On March 22 2015 22:25 Vivax wrote: We need rayn in here to whip town into shape. No, we need an actual voice of reason like Eden or maybe a re-evaling Damdred in here.
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So, given SL literally popped into the thread being in the minority that considers a mafia Toad, I'm currently at something like Artanis/Toad/LS/Slam/???
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On March 22 2015 22:25 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 22:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Onegu who IS your mason partner? If you lie about it one more time I will policy lynch you D3. Fine lynch me JUST SAY IT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU
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On March 22 2015 22:25 sicklucker wrote: Onegu im not saying the fact hf died and I knew he was faking a role clears me as town. But can you at least agree its points in my favor? Why would I ever let my mafia team nk a likely medic save that I know is faking a role?
Yes I am town reading you why are you still on this. Already said I believe you are town
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On March 22 2015 22:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2015 22:25 Vivax wrote: We need rayn in here to whip town into shape. No, we need an actual voice of reason like Eden or maybe a re-evaling Damdred in here.
A leader isn't the voice of reason, a leader is someone who can make himself heard.
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Im his mason partner!
buy this plz
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