EPTTL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy - Page 18
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On March 26 2015 03:48 ritoky wrote: I mean, if you want me to go in depth about why Eden is town, I can do so. I just don't think it has a point. That's the best two sentence summary I have.I don't really think eden is scum as of now, but be wary of this as a justification for your read for now and future games. It bit you in the ass once. | ||
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You were very active early on, and then when after LightningStrike (who you posted a case on) flipped, your activity significantly dropped. | ||
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On March 26 2015 03:21 Alakaslam wrote: Any response to this, Alakaslam?Show me. Artanis has been in tandem with Eden and calling Vivax bs, but Eden has been calling auperbia scum. This could be very telling about Superbia for me. Just tell me the page or if it is recent so I can check his filter | ||
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On March 26 2015 04:20 Eden1892 wrote: Eden!dang putting a bunk bed together is tough Talk to me. I want to lynch Onegu. Why is this a bad idea, and who do you want to lynch, and why? | ||
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On March 26 2015 04:34 Trfel wrote: That's what I get for not thinking and posting in the vote thread by accident.Does this vote say anything about Onegu's alignment? My thinking is not much. This is because there are still seven hours to the lynch, and a lot is still undermined. The final vote counts were 8 to 7, indicating that if the game consolidates on two wagons (likely), there are still half of the votes still to come down, and of course a ton of time (and therefore things to happen) before the lynch. Furthermore, Onegu never pushed LightningStrike at all, in fact he never mentioned LightningStrike. The only reason he voted in this way is to sheep Vivax, which he committed to before Vivax voted. My conclusion is that this vote says nothing about Onegu's alignment. Never done that one before. I guess there's a first time for everything. | ||
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Imagine if Onegu claimed mason with Holyflare on Day 1, and then Holyflare responded "What? I'm not a mason." That would say nothing at all about Onegu's alignment. So, Onegu's mason claim with Holyflare has no downside. And Onegu has two potential positives for doing this. If Holyflare accepts, Onegu gets a free pass through Day 1 and Night 1. And regardless of what Holyflare does, Onegu shows that he is willing to fake-claim mason, thereby giving him an out from all mason claims he makes for the rest of the game. Then Onegu claimed mason with raynpelikoneet. Regardless of raynpelikoneet's alignment, I think this is a poor move for town here. Rereading Onegu's filter in this section, he seems very determined in this statement. And he provided a false breadcrumb. He is much more determined about this mason claim than he was with his previous mason claim with Holyflare. His explanation for this is that he was certain of raynpelikoneet being town, and was defending him in this way. If he is this certain of raynpelikoneet being town, then he ought to explain this read, instead of just claiming mason. And Onegu I don't think Onegu ever explains this read. Basically, this is a bad play for town, as it provides false information. I also note that Onegu said he hadn't read over half the game, so how is he sure enough in his townread of raynpelikoneet that he claimed in such a convincing manner, while most people were very suspicious of raynpelikoneet at this time? Since then, Onegu rescinded his mason claim. I don't recall Onegu doing much else of note. My conclusion is that Onegu is scum here. I don't see why his play has any benefit for town, and claiming mason is a very low-risk play for scum. Ignoring his claims, Onegu hasn't done very much. I'm scumreading Onegu right now regardless of raynpelikoneet/ritoky's alignment, but I think there's a good chance that they are scum together. | ||
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I need to go. I retract my scumread on Onegu for now, I'll check again later. I forgot about his scumread of rsoultin, that is rather interesting as well. | ||
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Ritoky and rsoultin are reasonably good at it, I don't think I'm terrible at it. I want to lynch mafia, and Alakaslam seems like a slight town lean. Thus, I don't want to lynch him. | ||
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On March 26 2015 08:49 Vivax wrote: Joined? I started the "I don't want to lynch Alakaslam" group.Okay, and now that you've joined the choir of naysayers, what do you suggest? I suggested Onegu, however I forgot that his son is in surgery. And I actually feel terrible about that now (Onegu, I'm sorry!). So I need to completely redo that, with this in mind. But I'm not sure if it's even right to consider lynching Onegu today. Fecalfeast might be an okay lynch. I need to take another look at the implications that Palmar's flip has on raynpelikoneet/ritoky, and I would be willing to lynch ritoky. And there's also lynching one of Superbia/Artanis. Which would be a pretty big decision. If I knew what I wanted to do right now, you would see it reflected in the voting thread. | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:03 Onegu wrote: Glad to hear. I hope he continues to recover well.Ok I'm back home my son is doing fine and sleeping now. I'm going to get some diner and relax a bit then I'll be back. | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The problem I have with this is that Artanis is really good, and I kind of expect Artanis to be right...He establishes that I've been wrong (null) and that I change my opinions a lot at the drop of a hat (town). | ||
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On March 23 2015 13:36 Onegu wrote: Onegu, can you clarify the bolded please?I think it is. Rayn claim that is. Plus with all the blue claims already why not fake claim. Like if mafia has like 4 goons they know.it's a low PR game and with multiple claims.already... | ||
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While this post failed to account for Onegu's read on rsoultin and the fact that Onegu has a soul read on raynpelikoneet, I think it is correct in that there is no real downside for mafia fake-claiming vigilante, and there is incentive to do so. | ||
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Thoughts? | ||
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Artanis, why are you townreading raynpelikoneet/ritoky again? | ||
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