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On March 05 2015 14:36 Onegu wrote: Vote analysis, plus lack of activity. I feel this game is like Linux mafia where the team was lazy and inexperienced, also slam was on that team also That tells me why you think he's scum, but not why you think he's the best lynch? Can you walk me through your vote analysis kinda like Damdred did so that I can understand your PoE? | ||
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On March 05 2015 15:05 Onegu wrote: Rsoultin did you get what I was trying to tell you? I did...and I can even kinda understand the logic, except it doesn't really seem to take into account most of the players' play except maybe ritoky's and mine? Like I agree that a double-buss is a weird pay for Slam and ritoky to make together as scum, and ritoky did actually scumread slam before he voted him...not as strongly as I'd like but eh. So...how does the late formation of the wagon on prplhz play into your analysis? Palmar and Super both didn't vote until later, and then of course my last second vote. Knowing that Palmar was town...I don't think the timing rules out Super as possible scum. | ||
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You think scum is probably between Snickers, MM and Oats, and your reason for choosing MM is he's not talking but probably won't be modkilled. Lol...eh, I can buy it to an extent, and it may well be that simple, but to me it seems weird that the entire scumteam is inactive. I'd have to agree with Super on that one; probably one of the active players is scum. | ||
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Your presence in the thread wasn't as strong as I remembered it, but it got better. Got a problem with that? Like, seriously, we can pretend I'm a viable lynch here but I'm really not. You're basically saying I have the IQ of a Brussels sprout if you're calling me scum -shrugs- I expect you to work with me after work to get this lynch settled, and have some ideas of your own. If you're getting reads right now that's fine but at some point it's time to take a shit or get off the pot. | ||
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sidenote: damdred or onegu on slam if there was any bussing. ill explain why later, and who i think is most likely based solely on play and not preflip...but is anyone else on the same page as me? | ||
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damdred im reading townie. could be wrong, but his fluidity this game is making me think town since hes reacting to the more important things going on in the thread and his reads are changing with new information. i dont think he could emulate that easily as scum. | ||
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But keep in mind the context. I was certain Slam was scum. Mostly. Not quite as certain as I presented it in thread, but he was definitely my strongest scumread and by far my strongest read in the thread, with the townread on ritoky being the second. And...I pretty much had no other strong reads. I kept complaining that the thread was toxic, because it was, and I was sick and tired of town not acting like town, and possible town (Palmar) contributing to the mess. I also personally hate the too scummy to be scum reason to townread people which Palmar definitely fell under. So Super came into the thread, made some convenient placeholder comments, then suddenly changed over. No, I was not bullied off a strong scumread. I deliberately chose to vote for a null read over a scum read to get reads on the players on the prp wagon, most specifically Super, and yeah it's a weird way to think but made perfect sense to me in the context that I was having trouble getting reads on players. Note how he demanded for a read on him one way or another before I switched, and my response to him? I do strongly suspect that Super is scum, in part for his terrible logic night 1 to be sure, but also his chaotic responses in general. He contradicted himself a ridiculous amount of times after flip. More on that in another post. | ||
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- His reason for scumming prp has nothing to do with either Slam or prp pre-flip. He tries to cast doubt on me (leading the slam wagon) and switch to ritoky (Palmar's read) further distancing himself from a mislynch by saying his only real read is towning Snickers (a reason for staying on prp?) - Demands a read on him when he's already admitted to no reads of his own and pushes even when I say he's null (with style of course cause I have tons of style  )- The town to town last second hammer argument has already been beaten to death. My point here is less that it's clearly horrendous logic, and more pointing to what it achieves: a townread on Slam. If he scums slam and can't get me lynched, he has to be willing to lynch slam as mafia...or find a damn good reason not to. - He asked me for the other members of the scum team with Slam, then proceeded to try to tear it apart on the basis that...Slam isn't scum. That's ridiculous. - The whole bussing/non-bussing angle. He wants to push the idea that scum bussed while at the same time scumreading Robik for...nothing? Like I'm really confused here. He goes on about how it's terrible to buss but this is what scum did, throws a bunch of accusation's ritoky's way and barely mentions robik. Robik, robik, robik with no stated reason for scumming him, but his scumread gravitates more toward robik as more players in-thread suspect him, which is interesting. Most everything else has been brought up by someone already. - | ||
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Explain to me how I'm wrong if I'm wrong. | ||
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On March 06 2015 07:41 IAmRobik wrote: Because you're mid-questioning him. Why are you voting him while you're waiting for him to answer you, unless you don't care what the answer is..... I'm capable of changing a vote, Robik. His reason for voting you seemed made-up. Try asking next time. It gets you further. So that was a response to Palmar's alphabet lynch list, Super? Okay...I guess I can see that, except that your first impulse was to scumread me after the flip and you'd been consistently scumreading ritoky. But I guess I can see that thought coming from Palmar's post. So where are you at now then? Who should I think is more scum than you? | ||
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Scumming, rather -_- Btw, at some point soon I'm gonna drop out of thread for a bit because I have a tendency to burn through posts, and can't keep up this conversation forever. Quite simply, Super, I don't understand your play this game. I don't understand your thought process. Maybe if you continue pushing it, and you're actually town, it'll click. I'm actually specifically trying to be more open-minded about you because I'm predisposed not to be, so that works in your favor here. | ||
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