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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 06 2015 18:37 GMT
#561
On March 07 2015 03:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Town claim (nsfw):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


it's a town claim because i'd never do it as mafia...or never have done it as mafia...and this time is no exception

This means nothing to me! Would lynch!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
March 06 2015 18:37 GMT
#562
On March 06 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Going to give where I'm at so far in the game.

GB does a lot of stupid shit and the reasons for his reads are bad. But he has admitted that he gives people town/mafia reads for less than stellar reasons and so it is not alignment indicative. Of the people who have voted him I don't know how often Soren has played with him but I imagine HF and VE have played more than one game with him. In fact I know that VE has played with GB before in imperial.

HF is being very aggressive about the GB lynch . He could do this as mafia but I think it is more likely he is town.
VE is my top scum read and here is why.

Firstly he made this post
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


I don't think this is a good enough reason to confirm rayn as town. Like all it does is explain why a read is bad, mafia rayn could easily do this and it feels like a soft reason to kiss rayn's ass.

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On March 06 2015 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Those posts by MM1 are just dripping with mafia. Like, I understand that Holyflare asked him how he's doing, but seriously if he wanted to type paragraphs why wasn't ANY of it about the game?


Apparently MM1 is dripping with mafia. ok would be good to get an explanation of it.

But then he switches to GB for no reason that I can see, and again I believe that VE can not think the case made by HF is actually good.

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On March 06 2015 14:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
[center]ATTENTION THREAD![center]

I am officially switching my vote FROM MM1 TO GlowingBear. Thank you.


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On March 06 2015 14:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
And look! I'm #3 on the wagon! Does anyone want to draw any conclusions as to what that might make my alignment?


And then a switch onto GB without an explanation, I don't think he can believe the case from HF is good. This also feels like an overjustification of a switch. Like "LOOK I SWITCHED WHICH IS WHAT MAFIA WOULDN'T DO, PAY ATTENTION" it's like he is trying to get ahead of someone calling him scummy.

Robik I have a question for you.
When did you decide that GB was town?




VE is like my number one town.

On March 06 2015 23:36 your mom wrote:
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On March 06 2015 23:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Like a few people have called my entrance bad and my.reads backwards but I haven't seen a single decent point against them.
Its like"well this guy is scummy so why isn't this guy" stupid shit like that.

Ym said something like "waiting for ksc terrible entrance" then proceeded to call mh entrance terrible because and trying to immediately throw scum on me


Most scum prefer to enter the thread late to see who they best should make a case on, then you come and pick exactly the low hanging fruit. Given that you have to understand why you're under such scrutiny.


Im always the low hanging fruit lol

catching up on some more reading
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
March 06 2015 18:39 GMT
#563
On March 06 2015 15:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 15:40 your mom wrote:
I'm not fully sold that GB is mafia like you are HF, how much wiggle room do you give yourself to reconsider, or are you not going to consider anyone else for today.


0 other people are mafia, this guy is 100% mafia! If the mafia team was 1 person it would be this guy! Seeing as the mafia team is 3(?) then he's 3x mafia

Not sure why you're trying to push so hard that GlowingBear is mafia though.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 18:40 GMT
#564
On March 07 2015 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:19 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


He offered a general game theory, that doesn't necessitate townieness.

Why does your stance differ from the last time you commented on this?

table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 06 2015 18:44 GMT
#565
On March 07 2015 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 07 2015 03:19 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


He offered a general game theory, that doesn't necessitate townieness.

Why does your stance differ from the last time you commented on this?


You said earlier "I like this" in response to rayn's post. Then when I say that I MYSELF like it, you tell me that it doesn't necessitate towniness. I KNOW it doesn't necessitate towniness, that's why I added the qualifier "TO ME" and went on to SPECIFY that I ONLY meant he's off limits for TODAY.

What were you trying to accomplish with your post Soren? And why did you like it before but it's a hard null now?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#566
On March 07 2015 03:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Town claim (nsfw):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


it's a town claim because i'd never do it as mafia...or never have done it as mafia...and this time is no exception

This means nothing to me! Would lynch!

Good thing Rayn asked me to prove to him that he's townie and not to anyone else. Suck it VE
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#567
HF confirmed Mafia, get rekt
I'm adorable.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 06 2015 18:48 GMT
#568
On March 06 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Robik I have a question for you.
When did you decide that GB was town?


Around the time that Rayn said it. maybe a little sooner. I no longer recall why
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 18:52 GMT
#569
Okay i am off gonna get myself wasted.
We have good stuff here.
If we don't lynch mafia on d1 you can lynch me on d2.
I am confident.

Have fun kids. And VE.
table for two on a tv tray
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 18:57 GMT
#570
Rayn, can you summarise your points against Kelsier please?
I'm adorable.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 06 2015 19:00 GMT
#571
I did it already...
table for two on a tv tray
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 19:01 GMT
#572
Sorry, I'm still catching up. Gonna check your filter then
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 19:09 GMT
#573
Rayn, I've read your reasoning and although I think it is good and that it reinforces you as town, I need more compelling arguments to believe Kelsier is the best lynch today.
I'm adorable.
_Tormented_
Profile Joined February 2015
United States157 Posts
March 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#574
Wow that was a lot.....So basically we are looking at GB and Kelsier mainly?

I still read GB as leaning town, although I would be interested see why he thinks Robik is mafia. Robik has done pretty much nothing so far, so unless it is something meta, I would like to see GB's reasons for this.

Kelsier seemed a bit overly aggressive in his mafia reads on VE and captain fail. Would drawing that much attention to yourself after coming into the thread late be something mafia would do?
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Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
March 06 2015 19:19 GMT
#575
On March 07 2015 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:19 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:51 Soren333 wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2015 09:42 Soren333 wrote:
Or do you guys treat day 1 lynching differently here in TL?

yes we actually try to find mafia.

By doing what?

By taking the game semi-seriously and then someone says something that interests other people and then people talk about it which leads to other things and then we talk about them. Like we have been talking about you. At some point you can tell who is presenting genuine thoughts and who is not.

Like, do you believe captain fail REALLY believes Tormented is town because "mindmeld", when Tormented made a same post he did after 17 minutes? Do you think it is a genuine thought that the most reasonable explanation is that Tormented is in fact town for it? Why does he not consider the possibility of Tormented wanting to lick his ass by "making similar points he does"?

For me it is a HUUUGE red mark when someone says exactly what i have said before instead of "yeah i agree with rayn". Because that is actually contributing without bringing anything new to the table.

This is a really good post by rayn and confirms him as town for D1 for me. Any questions?


He offered a general game theory, that doesn't necessitate townieness.

Why does your stance differ from the last time you commented on this?


Not sure how my stance differed.

My previous comment was simply "I like this". Just because I like something, it doesn't necessitate that I think that they are town.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
March 06 2015 19:20 GMT
#576
On March 07 2015 03:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Town claim (nsfw):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


it's a town claim because i'd never do it as mafia...or never have done it as mafia...and this time is no exception

Does the picture have anything to do with your claim?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 19:46 GMT
#577
I will answer you in a while, VE
I'm adorable.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
March 06 2015 19:46 GMT
#578
Vote count


glowingbear (3): Soren333, HolyFlare, VisceraEyes, your mom raynpelikoneet
mocsta (0): your mom
raynpelikoneet (0): Mocsta
mysterymeat (0): visceraeyes
VisceraEyes (0): your mom
Captain_Fail (0): Mocsta
KelsierSC (2): Raynpelikoneet, Mocsta

Not voting ():
everyone else

Currently GlowingBear is set to be lynched with 3 votes
Deadline is in .
Remember to vote in the voting thread!
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
March 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#579
On March 07 2015 04:16 _Tormented_ wrote:
Wow that was a lot.....So basically we are looking at GB and Kelsier mainly?

I still read GB as leaning town, although I would be interested see why he thinks Robik is mafia. Robik has done pretty much nothing so far, so unless it is something meta, I would like to see GB's reasons for this.

Kelsier seemed a bit overly aggressive in his mafia reads on VE and captain fail. Would drawing that much attention to yourself after coming into the thread late be something mafia would do?


Oh, how stupid I am, I thought you were VE.

Anyway, here's the thing:

Robik is usually a more playful townie. He will be putting his thoughts on the thread and saying what is bad and what isn't. The main factor against him is exactly that he had done nothing so far. In the other hand, he IS following the thread (posting jokes shows he is active).

All of his posts are jokes. It's hard to say where he is coming from or what part he is taking in the game.

I'm not giving an example off of his filter because it is all jokes. If you don't trust me, go there.

One particular post, however, came to my eyes:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2015 08:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 08:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On March 06 2015 08:23 IAmRobik wrote:
You're all boring.
I could clear myself pretty easily, but I think it's kinda-bm so I won't.
I'm town
I have weird sentences structure
and sometimes i don't put periods.
this is getting long
bye.
too many games at once.
should have subbed out.
i guess it could have been worse.......i could have rolled mafia


Uh huh

Should I already vote you or wait until the next ... Minute?

You can vote me whenever the fuck you want. Your opinion means shit to me and it's unforunate that I didn't notice that you joined this game because I would have happily relinquished my spot to someone else to suffer through playing with you


I would expect bad manner coming from Robik, specially when I am in the spot. The problem is: this was uncalled for. This kind of reaction seems exaggerated. This is why:
1) If he didn't notice I joined the game, he could ask for a replacement. He isn't.
2) He was okay with playing with me most of the times, although he hates me.

Also, what a good way to cut any possibilities of interaction between us both. Notice that after this he has been doing NOTHING to discover people's alignment. He says out of nowhere I'm probably town, though.
With that post, IMO, he is trying to DEFLECT any possibilities of him giving information to the thread. He has been quiet since the start of the game. He is mostly playing lurking mafia, trying to survive the most he can.

Have in mind that last game we played together I correctly read him as mafia, and he was having a similar behaviour. I don't remember the game's name.
I'm adorable.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#580
On March 07 2015 04:20 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Town claim (nsfw):

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


it's a town claim because i'd never do it as mafia...or never have done it as mafia...and this time is no exception

Does the picture have anything to do with your claim?

seals or dead seals are posted by mafia. I have never done it as mafia but have done it as town. This game I'm doing it as town as well.
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