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On February 28 2015 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea where Onegu's push comes from.
KSC and Rayn focused on prp for valid reasons.
I never gave any kind of reason before or after my vote on trefel so when Prp says that he understands where I am coming from, its not accurate at all.
Robik is a dirty liar but the mod confirmation is pretty damming.
I would actually lynch ritoky now, his push on rayn is really bad.
what are you talking about here?
quote this plz.
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On February 28 2015 07:15 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 28 2015 07:04 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay. make a case. did you even glance at the filters I linked? no. make a case if you have one. you called him scum. now prove it. hypocrisy thy name is rayn. here's the case: read the following: hell even a cursory glance will do. note how in 1 he was only alive for 1 day phase, and how in the other he has 5 posts. then after reading them, read this comment: Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 06:57 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
he is town what do you think? the opposite as of now, I really liked his opening comment about making a read for the sake of making a read; but then I compared it to his previous game. he is less open with his opinions, doing less to actively solve the game, and his posts are shorter in length. I feel like he would care more about the lack of activity of most players if he were town. and tell me why you disagree.
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Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.
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you're not reading the thread
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On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you.
so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about?
how very town of you. /sarcasm
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On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you. so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about? how very town of you. /sarcasm
I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much?
You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?
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On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you. so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about? how very town of you. /sarcasm I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much? You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?
what do you think of oats trying to push a lynch on me without even having the right info?
I will respond to the ksc stuff in like 10 mins when I am on a real comp
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On February 28 2015 16:13 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you. so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about? how very town of you. /sarcasm I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much? You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky? what do you think of oats trying to push a lynch on me without even having the right info? I will respond to the ksc stuff in like 10 mins when I am on a real comp
mmmm I saw his point more when I thought he was actually talking about rayn lol ^^ that whole argument was kinda pointless and pissing contest-y (totally a new word yup yup)
you weren't as specific as I'd like you to be and it took a few prods to get it fully explained, but you did explain it. I don't think it matters much that his info was wrong unless when corrected he still clings to it stubbornly. being wrong isn't alignment-indicative
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On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you. so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about? how very town of you. /sarcasm I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much? You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky?
Eh might be a bit longer than I thought to go grab examples. Basically I think his read on prp is a crappy version of the read I gave on LS last game where he referenced a conversation that never happened in the thread. Unfortunately in this case I find it to be a stretch compared to last time when it was very clear cut even though it just turned out to be LS making stuff up. His scope is also very narrow like it is during his scum games thus far. Dunno, am not impressed enough with him to move off of my meta read.
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On February 28 2015 16:27 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 16:00 rsoultin wrote:On February 28 2015 15:55 ritoky wrote:On February 28 2015 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Read on KSC.
Whatever.
The point is, the read is a meta read in which you put 0 fucking effort into explaining but just dump the filters in the thread and expect us to somehow come to the same conclusion as you. so your primary lynch read you can't even be bothered to have the proper info in your read about? how very town of you. /sarcasm I generally don't lynch purely on meta (especially meta I'm unfamiliar with) cause lol...silly much? You did explain it a little later as an overarching thing, scope of reads, etc. Is there anything particular in this game apart from the meta read that makes you think KSC is scum, ritoky? Eh might be a bit longer than I thought to go grab examples. Basically I think his read on prp is a crappy version of the read I gave on LS last game where he referenced a conversation that never happened in the thread. Unfortunately in this case I find it to be a stretch compared to last time when it was very clear cut even though it just turned out to be LS making stuff up. His scope is also very narrow like it is during his scum games thus far. Dunno, am not impressed enough with him to move off of my meta read.
Okay. That's fair. Not based on meta, and entirely based on the fact that I truly believe Trfel is scum (not to mention that was the topic of the thread at the time) I found it strange that KSC chose to latch onto that particular detail regarding prp's post. I'm not prplhz...but a vote = scumread in most cases, or at least can be construed that way, so I didn't find what prplhz said all that strange.
That said, I don't know that it makes KSC scum. He could just genuinely see it as a contradiction, just like you still can't see that LS didn't actually make anything up last game lol >< I need to write an LS dictionary for y'all 
KSC shitting up the thread over that, though, if Trfel flips scum would look decidedly more scummy.
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Superbia is maffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooossssssssszzzzzzoioiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooo
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On February 28 2015 17:36 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is maffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooossssssssszzzzzzoioiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooo
Alright why is he more scum than Trfel?
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On February 28 2015 22:03 prplhz wrote:38 Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 17:36 Palmar wrote:
Superbia is maffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooossssssssszzzzzzoioiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooo Alright why is he more scum than Trfel?
Darker shade of red.
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Onegu
rsoultin
prplhz
Palmar
Oatsmaster
Alakaslam
IAmRobik
ritoky
VayneAuthority
Trfel
Superbia
KelsierSC
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that's racist rayn 
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On February 28 2015 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu
rsoultin
prplhz
Palmar
Oatsmaster
Alakaslam
IAmRobik
ritoky
VayneAuthority
Trfel
Superbia
KelsierSC
rayn
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Like all my townreads are clearly town. Robert is confirmed town because whenever a mod steps in with an irrelevant comment about someone's post that person is always town as people ARE going to make a read on it anyways. If Robert was mafia the co-host would not have said what he did because there is a possibility that someone makes a scumread on Robik out of the out-game comment of them, and mods do not wanna out who is mafia. That is ALWAYS it.
Trfel is mafia, it is quite clear at this point. He isn't doing anything, he hasn't got any reads.
Onego goes to the same boat, and he should have a townread on me by now. I dislike every post of his.
Oats focuses on irrelevant stuff and is not pushing anything for real. He is too passive and doesn't talk about the stuff i would expect him to. His ritoky comment was good but meh.. that's a fucking obvious conclusion about ritoky's terrible case. I am not sure if it makes ritoky mafia and i am torn on these two because i can't get a decent read on either of them. I'd say it's like 60/40 in favor of ritoky being scum, ritoky's latest posts were a bit better.
Palmar is clearly doing nothing and unfortunately that is not alignment indicative because he is Palmar. If he continues doing nothing and we can't find the last mafia just lynch the fuck outta him.
Slam's posting looks like town but because of the low quantity of his posts i can't tell for 100% sure. I actually read a lot of Slam game filters from past games yesterday because the second last game i misread him on D1 and that is something that should not happen. I kinda got it back again, i mean what makes him scum and what makes him town but i don't wanna out that yet. Leaning town on him anyways.
I got about 10 posts left and i am going to save them for tonight closer to the lynch, but this is where i stand at the moment.
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The people of Liquidia against Superbia
- The complete case -
The following case is written to both demonstrate the results of my investigations, in which I have concluded that superbia is mafia, and in order to convince anyone reading it that the correct action here is to lynch superbia.
I am going to explain using three main points why Superbia is mafia this game. I believe in concise cases and I do not think any further explanation beyond this case will be needed. Let us dive into it!
Point 1: Superbia pretends to be attempting to use meta in a completely unreasonable way
Twice in the game Superbia has asked for links to games, regarding something happening in this current thread.
Here's the first one:
On February 28 2015 09:50 Superbia wrote:
Though, does anyone have any links to games with trefl in it besides the one he posted?
On February 28 2015 10:14 Superbia wrote:
1 between trfel and rso. Trfel's filter this game feels different from his mafia game filter, but only slightly. So meh. I can't even recount RSO's posts. So prob RSO.
The most glaring thing that is wrong with this is that apparently he spent 24 minutes reading and understanding a filter from a different game, while still reading (and complaining about reading) posts this game, and reaching a conclusion based on that. Notice that he does not in any way explain WHAT it is that differs between this game and the other he read, just that it is different, which is a very easy and cheap thing to say.
I really, really don't believe he actually read the filter in question and managed to reach a proper conclusion in this time.
I'm going to touch more on his "result" post in point 3.
The second instance:
On February 28 2015 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Can someone link me to some of rayn's games? Especially ones where Palmar's playing as well.
Again, this is a very unreasonable way of looking at things, especially since rayn and I have played tons of games together and interacted very differently from one to another. Also, it seems like he never followed up on this, which is strange, as apparently this kind of filter comparison is something he highly values for analysis.
Point 2: Superbia opened this game trying to mimic his town game.
Opening last game Superbia did this:
On February 14 2015 18:22 Superbia wrote:
I'm just going to go ahead and call someone mafia:
raynpelikoneet
On February 14 2015 18:24 Superbia wrote:
It's fun and there's a decent chance I might be right. :D
While eventually incorrect, this was completely natural in the context of that game. rayn, at the time, was involved in a heavy argument with Robik that was, at least to me (but I was mafia), making Robik look good and rayn bad. rayn had posted a ton, and Superbia's semi-carefree read that was still based on something happening in the thread at the time looked very much like something a townie would do. I felt the need to townread him based on that, being mafia.
Compare it to this game:
On February 27 2015 08:54 Superbia wrote:
Palmar
This was written much earlier in the thread, it was based on a single post from me wondering what activity levels I should use this game, and he never followed up on it. And the weird thing is that if my post somehow gave him scum-vibes, I have done absolutely nothing to alleviate them through my posting up until this point. But nonetheless, Superbia is happy with that similar action to his town game, and never even revisits it.
Point 3: Superbia's read progression on Trfel and Rsoultin
On February 28 2015 09:43 Superbia wrote:
I'm not sure what is worse, trefl's horrible intro or rso's overly defensive response.
On February 28 2015 10:14 Superbia wrote:
1 between trfel and rso. Trfel's filter this game feels different from his mafia game filter, but only slightly. So meh. I can't even recount RSO's posts. So prob RSO.
Initially, this is how Superbia felt about them. The post that actually made me look into Superbia in the first place is actually the first one of these, where he claims to be unsure of which action is more scummy. He never actually reaches a conclusion on this, at least not where I can see, because he starts doing the meta thing instead.
The second post is really bad, because for no good reason whatsoever, he links their alignment together. This is never, ever a reasonable observation to make, but mafia really like making it because it gives them outs from every possible situation that the flips of said players might be, and if one or both of the players are town, the scum making the observation isn't really calling either of them mafia.
Of speciall notice is the fact that in the first post he calls Trfel's opening horrible, in the second he says Trfel's filter is only slightly different from his mafia filter without explaining in what way it differs, or why that particular difference is decisive on Trfel's alignment in his mind.
On February 28 2015 10:39 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:39 prplhz wrote:28 On February 28 2015 10:36 Superbia wrote:
Can we get a second wagon onto RSO? Uh maybe you can explain this 5m-meta-god-read-meta to the uninitated? Trfel's town and mafia filter feel different. This game feels like his town filter.
And then this post pops up. There is a glaring problem here. The filter he previously called "only slightly different" from the mafia filter, now feels like his town filter. If the difference so small I wonder how accurate his read is? 
I believe that in these three points I have demonstrated why Superbia must be mafia. I feel like individually each one of them is almost enough to condemn him, but combined it almost definitely makes him mafia.
I hope you will read my case throughly and apply your votes accordingly
Superbia is mafia
##Vote Superbia
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What do you expect me to talk about?
BTW Palmar is town and Super is totes scum.
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