EPTOn the first glance it looks good and now, reading Superbia's filter again, i honestly didn't even realize how nonsensical that looks. That being said i wanna do some research on that. One thing to note though, you saying him linking rsoultin & Trfel alignments together is not necessarily scummy. I mean, that's how i caught austin in the first place in Titanic III (when he made a conclusion of one of me & Coagulation having to be mafia from our argument at the start of the game). But surprise surprise, he did the same thing in the very next game... as town. I don't think that necessarily makes anyone mafia. But in the end, the conclusion and the way Superbia ends up on it in this game looks fake. Not necessarily for the reasons you presented but for the fact that rsoultin is like the towniest townie in this town and his meta comparison on Trfel is really bad because i myself did the same thing (looked at Trfel's past games) and ended up in the opposite conclusion.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On the first glance it looks good and now, reading Superbia's filter again, i honestly didn't even realize how nonsensical that looks. That being said i wanna do some research on that. One thing to note though, you saying him linking rsoultin & Trfel alignments together is not necessarily scummy. I mean, that's how i caught austin in the first place in Titanic III (when he made a conclusion of one of me & Coagulation having to be mafia from our argument at the start of the game). But surprise surprise, he did the same thing in the very next game... as town. I don't think that necessarily makes anyone mafia. But in the end, the conclusion and the way Superbia ends up on it in this game looks fake. Not necessarily for the reasons you presented but for the fact that rsoultin is like the towniest townie in this town and his meta comparison on Trfel is really bad because i myself did the same thing (looked at Trfel's past games) and ended up in the opposite conclusion. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
Lol I know it looks like I just think people calling me mafia are mafia, but something about his interaction with me felt really off. Apart from the "meta" read on Trfel not making any sense, the tone I was getting off Superbia's posts was rather sulky. Like "well, well, well...okay so those are good points but you're still mafia!" complete with stomping off and slamming the door heh. Don't ask how my brain works. Sometimes I don't get it either -_- That he hasn't explained his meta read on Trfel at all or demonstrated in any way why what I'm doing can only come from scum...(one of us must be scum, it isn't Trfel, and so it must be me? that's a weak argument). What's more strange is if he's going to use meta on Trfel, why isn't he using meta on me? lol Granted, I doubt he'd get it right anyway if this is an example of Superbia's meta reads. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Please don't lynch me. I'm maybe ten pages behind in the thread, I'll reread everything. Let me know if you have any questions, since I was unexpectedly out all of yesterday afternoon/evening I don't think that I should be worried about my post count any more. I do apologize for being away and not letting people know, my fault entirely. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On February 28 2015 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you expect me to talk about? BTW Palmar is town and Super is totes scum. This post is bullshit just because there is no fucking way Oats read and understood the case from Palmar in max 2 minutes. No, fucking, way... | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Trfel (4): rsoultin, rsoultin (2): Superbia (2): Palmar, Oatsmaster Oatsmaster (1): VayneAuthority ritoky (1): raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet (1): IAmRobik prplhz (0): VayneAuthority (0): IAmRobik (0): Not voted (2): ritoky, Trfel As it currently stands, Trfel is slated to be deported. The voting thread is located here. Countdown: | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On March 01 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: One thing before i go though: This post is bullshit just because there is no fucking way Oats read and understood the case from Palmar in max 2 minutes. No, fucking, way... I actually didnt see the case. I did read supers filter though. But I can read it in 2 minutes. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I actually think that the Trefl lynch is a great lynch right now. I didn't like his entry post , it seemed like he was just making a huge post and a read for the sake of it, probably aware that he gets town read for long posts. I can't remember who said that. I also really like the arguments that rayn and Rsoultin have brought up against Trefl, I especially like the break down Sol gave about his scum motivation. I think this direct pressure and evaluation makes both rayn and Rsol both town. Since his return he has just asked for people to ask him questions. but there is nothing from him at all. I also think Palmar's case against Superbia is pretty good and plus palmar kind of sitting back, chilling, watching and then making the case feels like a town palmar. Last game I played he made weak case and was an imposing figure in the thread. I'd think Palmar is town. I'm not sure on my prplhz scum read, like we were at loggerheads about things , his explanation does make some sense when I look back at things. The oats thing...still doesn't make any sense to me. but this case isn't as strong as the case as the one on trefl IMO. I also think Oats could be scum. Like he had his trefl vote or whatever. But then he comes up with this sequence which makes no fucking sense to me. On February 28 2015 14:50 Oatsmaster wrote: This trefel lynch is way too easy. I don't think this is true, there have been really good cases made on trefl already and he hasn't done anything, plus like rsoultin said people have been looking elsewhere. then he says this. On February 28 2015 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote: I have no idea where Onegu's push comes from. KSC and Rayn focused on prp for valid reasons. I never gave any kind of reason before or after my vote on trefel so when Prp says that he understands where I am coming from, its not accurate at all. Robik is a dirty liar but the mod confirmation is pretty damming. I would actually lynch ritoky now, his push on rayn is really bad. Like so rayn and I are focused for a valid reason..I mean does this make us town I don't know if he said this but that is what I read from it, So like if myself, rayn and rsoul are the main proponents of they lynch and he likes the case how can it be "too easy" it seems like a really weak excuse not to vote trefl. He has been looking around to get other lynches like Prplhz , Superbia , Calling Rayn scum and It just seems like he is sniffing around to see who he can get lynched. He also just says palmar is town, superbia scum despite not reading palmars case. that doesn't really make any sense to me. I could lynch Ritoky I guess but that's just because of the case on me basically just dumping two games I played, one of the games he couldn't even get the name right, then saying "he is scum". Plus he has basically tried to construe everything I have done as mafia which feels stupid. Saying my push on prplhz makes me mafia, saying my "focusing" makes me mafia, again I don't really understand what he is talking about because he just dumps the links to games. So yeh I'd lynch between. Trefl,Oats,Ritoky, prplhz but I definetly think Trefl is the best lynch. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Ég er ekki alveg viss hvað það þýðir, en mér þykir merkilegt að maður sem að bæði trúir því að ásakanir mínar séu réttmætar, og er einnig nokkuð viss um að ég sé ekki hluti af mafíunni, ákveði samt að þetta tvennt sé ekki meira virði en svo að rétt sé að hunsa það í lokaniðurstöðum hans um hvern sé rétt að hengja í dag. Kannski hann hafi eitthvað slæmt í pokahorninu kallinn? Hver veit?  | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
 That wasn't a bad point, Palmar. Why don't you take a closer look at Super, KSC, and get a read on him? I'm quite curious what you think. Cause right now if Truffle starts bleeding town before EoD I'd probably switch to Super. I can easily see his "rsoul vs trfel" staging as a way to push two mislynches if Trfel is town by some miracle. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
What do you guys think of my stuff about oats. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 28 2015 10:30 Superbia wrote: Go read Carol of the Bells. Nice try.Nah, I disagree with that. He seems very aware of his own meta and filters. Trolling and lurking is not in his town playbook. Which is why I'm not entirely sure on RSO atm. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 28 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote: You yourself stated in the obs chat that my leading town was outside of my normal play, don't make me dig up the quote. You know very well that I prefer to play a more backseat analyst role.You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him? His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol Maybe I vanished because real life came up? Maybe I went after you because I thought you were scum? Maybe I remember that in my game as mafia, you caught me on my second post for making a bad read? It would be the stupidest thing ever for me to make a "bad" read on you, since I figure you would probably notice? | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On March 01 2015 03:21 Trfel wrote: You yourself stated in the obs chat that my leading town was outside of my normal play, don't make me dig up the quote. You know very well that I prefer to play a more backseat analyst role. Maybe I vanished because real life came up? Maybe I went after you because I thought you were scum? Maybe I remember that in my game as mafia, you caught me on my second post for making a bad read? It would be the stupidest thing ever for me to make a "bad" read on you, since I figure you would probably notice? Maybe this is boring as fuck Maybe give some reads on the game | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 01 2015 03:21 Trfel wrote: You yourself stated in the obs chat that my leading town was outside of my normal play, don't make me dig up the quote. You know very well that I prefer to play a more backseat analyst role. Maybe I vanished because real life came up? Maybe I went after you because I thought you were scum? Maybe I remember that in my game as mafia, you caught me on my second post for making a bad read? It would be the stupidest thing ever for me to make a "bad" read on you, since I figure you would probably notice? What you demonstrated last game, Truffle-wuffle, was that when the thread wasn't going in the direction you thought that it should be, you stepped up and tried to guide it in the right direction. You complained about trolling and wasting posts in a post-restricted game, yet just silently voted a random person instead of trying to provide that direction. I've never said it's impossible that you're town, and I've even mentioned that one of my reservations (albeit WIFOM) is that it seems dumb to target me and gain my attention after your first scum game...that said, your first post was a justification for the silent voting you were being voted for. At which point you had to take a stance on me and it definitely couldn't be "town". So -shrugs- Prove you're town to me, Truffle. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
After consulting with a more experienced host this morning and returning to thread, I've decided to modkill Robik for the behaviour-based confirmation. (Robik, check your PM as well.) I realise not everyone was buying the behaviour based confirmation argument for his alignment but that was irrelevant in any case. As it was a host error, there will obviously be no further action. I regret that it has come to this. As such: IAmRobik, the restaurateur (Veteran) has gone into early retirement. That said, no discussion of modkills until post-game. Carry on. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
This is absolutely atrocious /out Replace me | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I do like Palmar's case on Superbia, though I am not sold on the second point. | ||
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