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On February 28 2015 10:32 prplhz wrote:
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@KelsierSC I'll answer you question if you answer mine. This ignoring me thing is boring and useless and you don't know that I am scum for shit and since we're both here we might as well talk.
You just said I wasn't intentionally making up Oatsmaster's read so apparently the mistake I made was to think that Oatsmaster had scum read Trfel when he hadn't (although he had)? If this is the reason you're voting me you need to explain to me, why are scum more likely to make this mistake than town?
Alright broken down.
1. Your jump on trefl felt opportunistic and the reason was poor.
2. When questioned you said specifically that you "got where rayn,oats and I where coming from" to me this implies you liked the cases we made. I had a one liner,oats hadn't said anything.
3. You then said later that you didn't know oats reason and assumed it was hard to follow...if its hard to follow you can't get him. Especially when he hasn't given the reason.
Scum reads are fake, they have to lie , they can make mistakes.especially under scrutiny
4. You dodged rayn on some pretty obvious technicalities
5. You voted me out if fake bullshit indignation.
Ok you can give reads on robik and oats now
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Let's recap, shall we?
@1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul
My last post before this vote (1759):
On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown-
@2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul
My last post before this unvote (2133):
On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer-
Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something.
@2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel
@2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from)
Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05
+ Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts?
A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP
@Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy.
Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it.
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On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it.
What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking
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On February 28 2015 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking
You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him?
His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol
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On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it.
Your reply felt very dismissive, not aggressive at all.
Like, you have played with the dude, right? Your arguments boil down to a number of expections of what you expect from town (iirc). Are these something you would expect from trefl?
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On February 28 2015 10:52 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:47 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. What is the reason? I'm genuinely asking You don't think it's at all strange that Trfel, who can be seen attempting to generate conversation and direct scumhunting in our newbie game together that just finished (all my games are in my profile for everyone's convenience), chose to vote and unvote in silence and only bothered to post or explain himself after two votes were on him? His explanation for his behavior was weak, his follow-up post looked like cya to me, and now he's disappeared again...if any of you know Trfel or have played with him at all, tell me this looks like a town!Trfel to you with a straight face lol
That's pretty damn good case
## vote trefl
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On February 28 2015 10:53 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. Your reply felt very dismissive, not aggressive at all. Like, you have played with the dude, right? Your arguments boil down to a number of expections of what you expect from town (iirc). Are these something you would expect from trefl?
And? Is there some reason that my reply should feel "aggressive" over "dismissive" that I should know about? I started a wagon on him and encouraged others to vote him.
Trfel is not playing how I would expect him to, no. Look at Student Mafia V. Look at Newbie Mini Mafia whatever number...the most recent. It is normal for me to get a read on his alignment early...and accurately xP
My only reservation really is I know that he is trying some new things after last game, but the longer he is unproductive after bitching at us (specifically me) for being unproductive, the more the possibility of his being awkward town drops.
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Nvm that, inquiry was answered before I posted.
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I can't tell if prplhz is town or if he's mafia squirming...will have to look into this further.
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On February 28 2015 10:41 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:32 prplhz wrote:
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@KelsierSC I'll answer you question if you answer mine. This ignoring me thing is boring and useless and you don't know that I am scum for shit and since we're both here we might as well talk.
You just said I wasn't intentionally making up Oatsmaster's read so apparently the mistake I made was to think that Oatsmaster had scum read Trfel when he hadn't (although he had)? If this is the reason you're voting me you need to explain to me, why are scum more likely to make this mistake than town? Alright broken down. 1. Your jump on trefl felt opportunistic and the reason was poor. 2. When questioned you said specifically that you "got where rayn,oats and I where coming from" to me this implies you liked the cases we made. I had a one liner,oats hadn't said anything. 3. You then said later that you didn't know oats reason and assumed it was hard to follow...if its hard to follow you can't get him. Especially when he hasn't given the reason. Scum reads are fake, they have to lie , they can make mistakes.especially under scrutiny 4. You dodged rayn on some pretty obvious technicalities 5. You voted me out if fake bullshit indignation. Ok you can give reads on robik and oats now
1. Can't convince you otherwise here. The reason was as good as they come at that stage in the game and certainly better than your reason.
2. Well then you are misunderstanding me. Please answer this question: can you not see how it is possible that what I meant by "I see where they're coming from" is "I can understand why they or anyone else would think Trfel is scummy because I think he is scummy too"? I want you to either a) acknowledge that possiblity and say that's not what you think I meant and that I am scum making that up as an afterthought or b) acknowledge that's exactly what I meant and there's nothing scummy about that.
3. Again, you are assuming I said I knew Oatsmaster's reason for voting Trfel when at no point did I know Oatsmaster's reason. I am even saying it now, I didn't know Oatsmaster's reason and I don't know it now. I can see that there are reasons for why he might think a person I find scummy is scummy. As for the "hard to follow", Oatsmaster is sometimes hard to follow, at least he was back when I played with him last.
4. No I really didn't dodge anything. I answered every question asked of me. This dodging accusation is really bullshit because I am answering everything here. You might think I'm not answering well enough, whatever, but I'm very clearly not dodging anything.
5. No. I am voting you because you cannot explain why you are voting me. You are saying that I made a mistake but you cannot explain why this mistake is scummy. The rest of the reason you are voting me consists of all these unsubstantial and unsubstantiated pokes like "oppotunistic" and "fake bullshit indignation" which is at best as ridiculous as Blazinghand's "fake anger" accusation against raynpelikoneet last game.
Please. You are saying that I am not intentionally making things up about Oatsmaster. Fine. Why are scum more likely to accidentally make things up about Oatsmaster than town? If anyone is dodging a question it's you dodging the question "Why are scum more likely to accidentally think Oatsmaster did something he didn't?" (which btw, he did), you really didn't answer that in that post just there. You just reinterated some other points on me I don't really care about.
2a or 2b and answer the question in the last paragraph.
IAmRobik seems town for the mod comment, I don't know about Oatsmaster but slightly leaning scum.
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On skimming the thread, the argument against prplhz seems primarily based on semantics.
I did not see anything that just hit me in the face scummy from him...and there were a few such points early game when we were scum together in Titanic. I don't think he's scum this game.
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On February 28 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:
On skimming the thread, the argument against prplhz seems primarily based on semantics.
I did not see anything that just hit me in the face scummy from him...and there were a few such points early game when we were scum together in Titanic. I don't think he's scum this game.
And don't you think it's weird that KelsierSC doesn't get this?
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On February 28 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:53 Superbia wrote:On February 28 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote:Let's recap, shall we? @1920... Trfel votes an Rsoul My last post before this vote (1759): On February 27 2015 08:59 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:45 IAmRobik wrote:On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Silverarte: Hey Rsoul, why did you make this post? Rsoul: Oh, I don't know, because I like to post useless shit Lol, hello pot. My name is kettle. Oh wait, wait, there was a hidden message in your first five posts? -mindblown- @2143... Trfel unvotes an Rsoul My last post before this unvote (2133): On February 27 2015 12:33 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 12:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar is absolutely a fucking lier but hes not scum. You got that from his two ever-so-enlightening posts? -bows to the Palmar!whisperer- Still no post from Trfel in the thread. A half hour passes, and I go huh. Let's try something. @2222... Rsoul votes a Trfel @2233... Oats votes a Trfel (I commented on this vote, prplhz, which is probably where you got your impression from) Low and behold, a magically appearing Trfel posts @23:05 + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? A riddle for you, KSC...now what could possibly be the scum motivation for that sequence? xP @Superbia...why don't you read, lovely? "Overly defensive"? lol...I had five points, one of which was a half-defense/half-snark and the other four reasons that I thought the progression and Trfel's post were scummy. Also, since this comes up every game...I work. I will be gone for big chunks of the day because of it. Deal with it. Your reply felt very dismissive, not aggressive at all. Like, you have played with the dude, right? Your arguments boil down to a number of expections of what you expect from town (iirc). Are these something you would expect from trefl? And? Is there some reason that my reply should feel "aggressive" over "dismissive" that I should know about? I started a wagon on him and encouraged others to vote him. Trfel is not playing how I would expect him to, no. Look at Student Mafia V. Look at Newbie Mini Mafia whatever number...the most recent. It is normal for me to get a read on his alignment early...and accurately xP My only reservation really is I know that he is trying some new things after last game, but the longer he is unproductive after bitching at us (specifically me) for being unproductive, the more the possibility of his being awkward town drops.
Eh, whatever. I want to see what trfel comes up with and evaluate from there. I do not really recall your arguments being strong in your response post, which was dismissive and therefore, defensive. You only really picked up the pace later, which you would've had to do as mafia, since you called the guy scummy. Your aimed arguments just now look 5000% better than the rest of your case, though I will look at the filter of that game when I'm in a less delirious mood. (i..e tomorrow)
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I'm gonna peace out for now. Trying to fix my sleeping schedule while it's already 3AM. Way to go.
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On February 28 2015 11:04 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 11:03 rsoultin wrote:
On skimming the thread, the argument against prplhz seems primarily based on semantics.
I did not see anything that just hit me in the face scummy from him...and there were a few such points early game when we were scum together in Titanic. I don't think he's scum this game. And don't you think it's weird that KelsierSC doesn't get this?
I'm not sure on KSC yet. I've liked some of his posts, and found others to be highly nitpicky on weak reasons...but I can see a town mindset in turning over every stone in an attempt to find scum. I wouldn't vote him today based on his play so far.
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This game is hard because people are making long posts because of the post restriction and I dont' have the mental capacity to read long posts.
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On February 28 2015 11:02 prplhz wrote:29 Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 10:41 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:32 prplhz wrote:
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@KelsierSC I'll answer you question if you answer mine. This ignoring me thing is boring and useless and you don't know that I am scum for shit and since we're both here we might as well talk.
You just said I wasn't intentionally making up Oatsmaster's read so apparently the mistake I made was to think that Oatsmaster had scum read Trfel when he hadn't (although he had)? If this is the reason you're voting me you need to explain to me, why are scum more likely to make this mistake than town? Alright broken down. 1. Your jump on trefl felt opportunistic and the reason was poor. 2. When questioned you said specifically that you "got where rayn,oats and I where coming from" to me this implies you liked the cases we made. I had a one liner,oats hadn't said anything. 3. You then said later that you didn't know oats reason and assumed it was hard to follow...if its hard to follow you can't get him. Especially when he hasn't given the reason. Scum reads are fake, they have to lie , they can make mistakes.especially under scrutiny 4. You dodged rayn on some pretty obvious technicalities 5. You voted me out if fake bullshit indignation. Ok you can give reads on robik and oats now 1. Can't convince you otherwise here. The reason was as good as they come at that stage in the game and certainly better than your reason. 2. Well then you are misunderstanding me. Please answer this question: can you not see how it is possible that what I meant by "I see where they're coming from" is "I can understand why they or anyone else would think Trfel is scummy because I think he is scummy too"? I want you to either a) acknowledge that possiblity and say that's not what you think I meant and that I am scum making that up as an afterthought or b) acknowledge that's exactly what I meant and there's nothing scummy about that. 3. Again, you are assuming I said I knew Oatsmaster's reason for voting Trfel when at no point did I know Oatsmaster's reason. I am even saying it now, I didn't know Oatsmaster's reason and I don't know it now. I can see that there are reasons for why he might think a person I find scummy is scummy. As for the "hard to follow", Oatsmaster is sometimes hard to follow, at least he was back when I played with him last. 4. No I really didn't dodge anything. I answered every question asked of me. This dodging accusation is really bullshit because I am answering everything here. You might think I'm not answering well enough, whatever, but I'm very clearly not dodging anything. 5. No. I am voting you because you cannot explain why you are voting me. You are saying that I made a mistake but you cannot explain why this mistake is scummy. The rest of the reason you are voting me consists of all these unsubstantial and unsubstantiated pokes like "oppotunistic" and "fake bullshit indignation" which is at best as ridiculous as Blazinghand's "fake anger" accusation against raynpelikoneet last game. Please. You are saying that I am not intentionally making things up about Oatsmaster. Fine. Why are scum more likely to accidentally make things up about Oatsmaster than town? If anyone is dodging a question it's you dodging the question "Why are scum more likely to accidentally think Oatsmaster did something he didn't?" (which btw, he did), you really didn't answer that in that post just there. You just reinterated some other points on me I don't really care about. 2a or 2b and answer the question in the last paragraph. IAmRobik seems town for the mod comment, I don't know about Oatsmaster but slightly leaning scum.
Ive already explained why I was voting you so I dont understand why you keep saying that
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On February 28 2015 11:09 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2015 11:02 prplhz wrote:29 On February 28 2015 10:41 KelsierSC wrote:On February 28 2015 10:32 prplhz wrote:
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@KelsierSC I'll answer you question if you answer mine. This ignoring me thing is boring and useless and you don't know that I am scum for shit and since we're both here we might as well talk.
You just said I wasn't intentionally making up Oatsmaster's read so apparently the mistake I made was to think that Oatsmaster had scum read Trfel when he hadn't (although he had)? If this is the reason you're voting me you need to explain to me, why are scum more likely to make this mistake than town? Alright broken down. 1. Your jump on trefl felt opportunistic and the reason was poor. 2. When questioned you said specifically that you "got where rayn,oats and I where coming from" to me this implies you liked the cases we made. I had a one liner,oats hadn't said anything. 3. You then said later that you didn't know oats reason and assumed it was hard to follow...if its hard to follow you can't get him. Especially when he hasn't given the reason. Scum reads are fake, they have to lie , they can make mistakes.especially under scrutiny 4. You dodged rayn on some pretty obvious technicalities 5. You voted me out if fake bullshit indignation. Ok you can give reads on robik and oats now 1. Can't convince you otherwise here. The reason was as good as they come at that stage in the game and certainly better than your reason. 2. Well then you are misunderstanding me. Please answer this question: can you not see how it is possible that what I meant by "I see where they're coming from" is "I can understand why they or anyone else would think Trfel is scummy because I think he is scummy too"? I want you to either a) acknowledge that possiblity and say that's not what you think I meant and that I am scum making that up as an afterthought or b) acknowledge that's exactly what I meant and there's nothing scummy about that. 3. Again, you are assuming I said I knew Oatsmaster's reason for voting Trfel when at no point did I know Oatsmaster's reason. I am even saying it now, I didn't know Oatsmaster's reason and I don't know it now. I can see that there are reasons for why he might think a person I find scummy is scummy. As for the "hard to follow", Oatsmaster is sometimes hard to follow, at least he was back when I played with him last. 4. No I really didn't dodge anything. I answered every question asked of me. This dodging accusation is really bullshit because I am answering everything here. You might think I'm not answering well enough, whatever, but I'm very clearly not dodging anything. 5. No. I am voting you because you cannot explain why you are voting me. You are saying that I made a mistake but you cannot explain why this mistake is scummy. The rest of the reason you are voting me consists of all these unsubstantial and unsubstantiated pokes like "oppotunistic" and "fake bullshit indignation" which is at best as ridiculous as Blazinghand's "fake anger" accusation against raynpelikoneet last game. Please. You are saying that I am not intentionally making things up about Oatsmaster. Fine. Why are scum more likely to accidentally make things up about Oatsmaster than town? If anyone is dodging a question it's you dodging the question "Why are scum more likely to accidentally think Oatsmaster did something he didn't?" (which btw, he did), you really didn't answer that in that post just there. You just reinterated some other points on me I don't really care about. 2a or 2b and answer the question in the last paragraph. IAmRobik seems town for the mod comment, I don't know about Oatsmaster but slightly leaning scum. Ive already explained why I was voting you so I dont understand why you keep saying that
I'm not exactly asking why you are voting me, I'm asking how your main argument (you think that I accidentally made something up about Oatsmaster) is alignment indicative. If you were just voting me for the other buzzword nonsense then I have nothing more.
I just cannot understand how you can think that I am scum for accidentally thinking that Oatsmaster had said something about Trfel. I don't understand why scum would be more likely to misremember something than town. Maybe in a long game where scum stop paying attention but this was like 3 pages into the game, most people (me included) can concentrate for that long even as scum.
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It is possible that you could have meant "i see why they would vote him".
and i already said scum have to fake reads so it is easy to make mistakes.
Your vote on me just felt desperate.
You have answered everything and yeh it can be explained by "oh but i meant this" but like you seem bad.
I have a scum read in you but I'm going to let this go for now as the trfel case is better
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On February 27 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote:Truffle's post: + Show Spoiler +On February 27 2015 14:05 Trfel wrote:Hi. I'm going to head to sleep now, but I figured I would share some thoughts first. First, this is obviously a post restricted game, and I intend to do my best to use my posts effectively. At times, this can mean communicating my thoughts through the voting thread (see my vote and later unvote on rsoultin). I feel that my reasons for both of these actions were obvious, though I do intend to explain. My real question is, where does the nonsense end and the game start? I feel like there has been a lot more opening nonsense this game than in most, and this game is the one with post restrictions. Here's the reasons for my suspicions of rsoultin. I can understand wasting posts at the start of the game, but the post wasting continued for quite some time. Rsoultin's posts felt like they came later, more of as an afterthought, while it was after the point that nonsense posts had any value in at least starting the conversation. By the time rsoultin first posted, we had Robik wasting five posts, VayneAuthority voting for Oatsmaster, two vanilla town claims, and a cop claim. Plenty of random things to start the game, no more is needed. And then comes this wonderful post. Show nested quote +On February 27 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote:On February 27 2015 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
metas are meant to be broken
like buildings
and people a likely story -rolls around the thread- ritoky are you happy? you seem happy. should I be glad you're happy? Rsoultin isn't saying anything at all here, and she isn't making a joke or an interesting comment. "Rolling around the thread" and discussing happiness feels a bit out of place, though I'm bad at tone reads. My point is that I expect rsoultin to be sensible enough to conserve posts to some degree, and I don't see that here. Thus, my vote communicated the simple message of "step it up and play the game". Rsoultin shared a small number of game-related thoughts, and I removed my vote for now. I know that many people have made useless posts, I just think rsoultin looks more suspicious for it because she is sensible enough not to and she started doing so well after everyone else did. I am very interested to see where rsoultin goes from here. Thoughts? First: lamesauce. There was perhaps one post since I entered the thread that didn't have a particular purpose, and newsflash: the one you quoted wasn't it. I'm not going to translate myself for y'all, but you're free to ask me what I'm on about if you like. That's the more townie way of going about things  Translation for the dull: Weak-ass argument, Trfel.Second: Out of all the things going on in the thread, this is what you choose to talk about? Translation for the dull: Why was my posting the only thing he found significant in the thread?Third: 60 posts a day phase. 60. You can't take two for votes and unvotes? You have to wait for Oats and I to vote you first before you can be bothered to explain yourself, instead thinking we'll read your mind? lol that's rich Translation for the dull: Trfel's excuse for not posting is complete BS.Fourth: Don't think I'm not aware that you're scared of me catching you when you roll scum. My Trfel BS-dar is particularly good So you going out of your way not to say a word is very suspicious Truffle-wuffle. Translation for the ignorant: I caught him instantly in his one scum game on the site.Fifth: If you don't like the direction of the thread, shouldn't you be in here guiding it rather than lurking and casting votes without explanations? You know, that other townie thing players do as town? Translation for the dull: Trfel complained about something without attempting to fix it, which suggests that it didn't bother him enough to do anything about. Or post at all, apparently.Conclusion: I like my vote where it stands right now ^^ Translation for the dull: I think Trfel is scum.[...]
Yeah, that looks so defensive lol >< Your reads are much different than mine this game, Super. Some reason you're defending Trfel on an inexplicable meta-read that doesn't line up with mine...when mine has proven to be pretty damn good multiple times?
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