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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 25 2015 16:55 GMT
#721
And it's retarded because you should always play either alignment to your fullest but eh.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 25 2015 16:56 GMT
#722
Free town read to the first person who votes kels Ive asked him 10 times to explain his reads
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 16:57 GMT
#723
But it makes no sense if you want to be unreadable to say.

"look at this town post!"

It makes sense you could be null on him i guess. But i think he is scum for his terrible early.game . Awful omgus play and the trifecta of afk when the pressure is off him.
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Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 16:58 GMT
#724
Artanis, what's your read on me?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 25 2015 16:59 GMT
#725
On February 26 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Ugh fair enough.

I thought you beez in the trap

## unvote

##vote Yamato77



I dont think sl is policy. My case on him isn't policy at all.

Plus you yourself gave an example of his town mentality and I just displayed something that was opposed to that.

Dont pull "oh its policy" bullshit when my case is the realest

I don't think Damdred's capable of posting as much as he is now as mafia.

I also don't think you did. Town SL can easily make a post that he thinks is accidentally very townie, then decide (as he has so far) not to give much more of a shit for the rest of the day to compensate. It'd actually fit in his thought process there. He's null to me and I'm not sure there's much that can sway me on him in either direction.

Since no one wants to vote Tormented I'll park my vote on Yamato as well. He's made one case on Tormented which he backed off from when a question mark pushed the same suspect, he's asked a bunch of questions that didn't lead to anything, and he's been flinging unsubstantiated suspicions at me all game long whilst complaining about how the thread's evolving.

##Vote Yamato77


Good read dandred is 100% town. But unlike dandred kels has a history of spewing mafia on day1 (see Christmas carol) He wants to kill two towns (me and dandred) and the two other easy newb lynches. He has like 0 town reads
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:00 GMT
#726
On February 26 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
Free town read to the first person who votes kels Ive asked him 10 times to explain his reads


Really?
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 25 2015 17:00 GMT
#727
On February 26 2015 01:58 Snarfs wrote:
Artanis, what's your read on me?


can you explain your read progression on Node better. Hours before you called him mafia you called him town and everything you called him mafia for existed when you called him town and you supposedly read his filter the first time as well.

So what changed?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 25 2015 17:01 GMT
#728
Explain why you just voted dandred there. I dont see where you "caught" him. I already explained why my opener was townie
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:02 GMT
#729
On February 26 2015 01:59 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 01:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On February 26 2015 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Ugh fair enough.

I thought you beez in the trap

## unvote

##vote Yamato77



I dont think sl is policy. My case on him isn't policy at all.

Plus you yourself gave an example of his town mentality and I just displayed something that was opposed to that.

Dont pull "oh its policy" bullshit when my case is the realest

I don't think Damdred's capable of posting as much as he is now as mafia.

I also don't think you did. Town SL can easily make a post that he thinks is accidentally very townie, then decide (as he has so far) not to give much more of a shit for the rest of the day to compensate. It'd actually fit in his thought process there. He's null to me and I'm not sure there's much that can sway me on him in either direction.

Since no one wants to vote Tormented I'll park my vote on Yamato as well. He's made one case on Tormented which he backed off from when a question mark pushed the same suspect, he's asked a bunch of questions that didn't lead to anything, and he's been flinging unsubstantiated suspicions at me all game long whilst complaining about how the thread's evolving.

##Vote Yamato77


Good read dandred is 100% town. But unlike dandred kels has a history of spewing mafia on day1 (see Christmas carol) He wants to kill two towns (me and dandred) and the two other easy newb lynches. He has like 0 town reads


What is.like 0?

Mafia reads better Than town reads. Then I lynch mafia d1


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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 25 2015 17:02 GMT
#730
Also art, the first half of waves day was excellent the second half idk the game is really hard at this point though.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:02 GMT
#731
On February 26 2015 02:01 sicklucker wrote:
Explain why you just voted dandred there. I dont see where you "caught" him. I already explained why my opener was townie


You cant be that stupid?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 25 2015 17:03 GMT
#732
On February 26 2015 01:58 Snarfs wrote:
Artanis, what's your read on me?

I'm not sure, I haven't looked at you attentively yet.
Now I'm actually leaving.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:04 GMT
#733
So you have already explained why you had a "townie" opener. And drew attention to "towny " posts but artanis says you like to be unreadable. Is artanis lying.about your play then?
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 25 2015 17:06 GMT
#734
Thats his opinion its not a terrible one but I dont think its correct.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:07 GMT
#735
On February 26 2015 02:06 sicklucker wrote:
Thats his opinion its not a terrible one but I dont think its correct.


So artanis is lying about your play. Why?
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 25 2015 17:09 GMT
#736
Artanis barely knows how I play. Why is someones opinion a "lie" to you. Its literally his opinion and I dont expect anyplayer to correctly read me after one game.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:13 GMT
#737
On February 25 2015 09:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote:
On February 25 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Damdred, why do you like Yamato?


He has thoughts pushes thoughts, has a good prwacense in the thread

What thoughts has he pushed other than a pretty poor case on Tormented which he isn't pushing anymore because he's been shitting unsubstantiated 'question marks' at me? I see a Yamato on the sidelines that isn't really doing much other than throwing dirt on me where possible, with a few idle questions here and there.

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2015 08:53 KelsierSC wrote:
fuck it mind blown time is now boys.

so I had SL as my scum read early because his posting was pretty fucking awful. just a feeling then he made this gem.

On February 25 2015 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
Snarf is town because his first post was asking about players he didnt know. This is the strongest opening because as town its also what I want to know and It was my opening to answer it.

Dandred is town because Ive played him as mafia 3 times and he just lurked. When he leads the discusion day1 hes always been town in like 9 games ive played with him as town. Ive had this read for quite awile and im glad we finally both rolled town for once so I can use it.


Like this kind of "meta" read on damdred is like the most superficial garbage . Damdred can just talk to a thread it isn't beyond his intelligence. Maybe damdred is town but SL shouldn't be reading him town.

So then I'm like well SL makes bad reads as both alignments, and as for his arrogance, well he is an obnoxious mo fo in general. I remember in a mafia game he said he had hf "twisted around his finger" hehe

so i'm like ok maybe i'm not sure. let's step back , he's a fool. let's see what he does. Since I stepped back we get...

Nothing. He doesn't give a shit about this. Just two shit tier town reads.

I got him boys, join in on this

##Vote SickLucker



Why does scum sicklucker not give as much of a shit as town sicklucker in this position? From what I recall him saying he actively tries to be unreadable by not giving as much of a shit in general as town when it isn't necessary.

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On February 25 2015 08:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Artanis, bad bad. Using meta to describe my play? Plz. And even worse still, using months old meta. The reason my town play isn't like Shadow or like you're used to is because my town play is shit and I'm trying to improve myself. Yamato will vouch.

As for reads yamato, my schedule has been particularly brutal as of Monday. I'll try to look at stuff after iris tonight.

Have you played any games that aren't months old though? I actually still need to check if you go along with town sentiment more as mafia to collaborate it too but I recalled very strongly that you do your own thing regardless of town sentiment. It is most certainly not bad.

I'm gonna go do that now.


This sint artanis opinion either. It is what you told him.

Is he lying, why?
Zerg for Life
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 17:21 GMT
#738
On February 26 2015 02:00 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 01:58 Snarfs wrote:
Artanis, what's your read on me?


can you explain your read progression on Node better. Hours before you called him mafia you called him town and everything you called him mafia for existed when you called him town and you supposedly read his filter the first time as well.

So what changed?

Sure. I thought his entrance was scummy. I mentioned a couple of reasons why, namely that he seemed to ignore everything else going on in the thread and that he was being hypocritical with his push of you despite calling me scum for something similar.

However, I thought to myself, well, who's more likely to be hypocritical, town or scum? My answer was town but I wanted to double check so I decided to look up Node's meta to see if he would show similar signs as town or mafia. I read some similar entrances as both town and mafia, but thought that in general it felt slightly more towny that he would ignore the rest of the thread, so decided to drop it and make that post saying why I thought he was town.

So as I was looking at other people, I was watching his conversation with Prob as well. And Node reiterates to someone (Kelsier maybe?) that I'm still his biggest scum read, then follows up by saying to Prob that my conclusion that he's town doesn't change his opinion of me at all. However, if I post more like that he could be swayed.

I thought that was odd, so I tried to reread it from Node's point of view. I tried to put myself as a "town Node" and follow that thought process. When I couldn't, I concluded that he must be mafia and got really excited to tell you guys.
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
February 25 2015 17:26 GMT
#739
On February 26 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2015 01:58 Snarfs wrote:
Artanis, what's your read on me?

I'm not sure, I haven't looked at you attentively yet.
Now I'm actually leaving.

Blah. I'd lynch artanis as well.

His Yamato Tormented thing also makes little sense. Yamato makes a case against Tormented. Artanis agrees. Artanis thinks Yamato is playing suspiciously (fine), but when asked to give more reads his only reads are Yamato and tormented both as scum, which logically makes no sense. Then people start suspecting me and he doesn't even bother to look attentively?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 25 2015 17:26 GMT
#740
Well like if someone calls you mafia, for a reason you dislke. Then calls you town for a reason that isn't concrete you are likely to remain skeptical of them.

I mean I can see a town node perspective
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