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Miller claim is fake and pointless. Snickers doing some weird ass shit. (scum) Have you ever played a pm game before snickers? | ||
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If you have a good chain with somebody in PM land, consider sharing it with the thread after it is "finished". The bigger the better. Even if there is nothing of value in it, just put it in the thread as a spoiler. Whats the point of this koshi? | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:28 sicklucker wrote: Oats whats the point of using a chat forum when were already in one because its instant and I dont have to refresh to see new messages. COME ON MAN, GET WITH THE PROGRAMME. | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:10 LightningStrike wrote: I'm here Eden are you trying to bait a Miller claim again? ergh, whats the point of this post LS? There is no miller in the OP. | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:32 sicklucker wrote: Everyones gonna be too lazy. Its like a request that you know no ones going to make absolutely not true. Its way easier to have an extended conversation on IRC than tl PMs. So if someone wants to talk to me, then its easier to on IRC. | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote: He did this as town in are last game so to Ls someone who cares way too much for meta it matters was there possibly a miller in that game? | ||
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On February 19 2015 12:37 sicklucker wrote: I can speak for everyone that im not going to download a chat program thats only 10% more efficient then this forum. Like your trying to get town cred from this thats obvious Are you fucking kidding me? You can chat with someone alone. Like Skype or some shit. There is also an online client. Fuck me. | ||
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Snickers, why don't you want to use something that only gives town an advantage? Rayn, why are you voting sicklurker?? | ||
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##vote koshi care to explain why your start was so unprovocative. | ||
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On February 19 2015 20:11 Koshi wrote: This looks like mafia scumhunting. Or pretending to scumhunt. The problem I have with these 2 questions is that the first one is a fine question that puts pressure on geript: "But you never said anything to eden about miller claim?" Which is an ok question to ask because geript is going for snickers his balls and ignores Eden. So some inquiry about this is fine. But the second one completely destroys that purpose and shows some fear/weakness from Snickers: "Which is a vt claim right?" The last question really gives geript an out of the pressure and downplays the first question and the scumhunting purpose behind it. I might be misreading the last question, the intention behind it. But to me it looks like somebody acting dumb on purpose. There is obviously no miller in the set up, so it isn't a vt claim or anything. It is very obvious that Eden is being silly. If Snickers would be truly scumhunting here I would have expected a stronger question as follow up. Because why does he say it is a vt claim? Is it because he knows there is no miller? It's just odd. fake. scum. Look, the miller claim is complete bullshit and so no need to talk about it. IMO last question is noob rather than scum and you should know that. DIE KOSHI. DIE. Also VE, i changed my mind about geript, i think hes townie. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:37 sicklucker wrote: OATS GOING HAM. I like this oats better then the way hes played lately I think Kurumi is town from side convos we had explain with quotations why kurumi is town. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:49 VisceraEyes wrote: I could maybe buy Koshi town. Maybe. no I cant. | ||
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On February 19 2015 22:52 sicklucker wrote: Because of a pointless convo we had about where I tried to tell him Ls did nothing out of the ordinary for him. Im not sure he wants me to say this but he made a qt for a couple players and that shows town initiative Whos in that QT? Can you quote from your chat PLEASE. | ||
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Basically you should be able to tell the difference between new town and scum in my opinion. And that snickers and you are judged to different standards. Also, he has posted other shit which leads me to believe hes town. So its not an even comparison. Snickers is saying, "Why dont you pressure eden cause he also claimed town". Thats alright. | ||
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Claiming town is doing a thing to make people have a town read on you. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:06 Koshi wrote: Why do you assume snickers is new btw? This guy his first game was boss. He caught all 3 mafia D1 and then proceeded to get bullied into oblivion by the bad townies. I am pretty sure he wasn't new to mafia when he played that first game as well. Such a strange assumption. I think quite highly of snickers. link game | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:07 liancourt wrote: ? anyone can claim town, look I'm VT. I claimed town. Does this make everyone town read me, nope. hes a noob. Read in context please. | ||
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On February 19 2015 23:14 liancourt wrote: what does that have to do with anything? Think from snickers perpesctive. | ||
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ok noob town card revoked. Interesting how he didnt protest to me calling him noob town. | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:15 liancourt wrote: http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tlmafia ok so you don't need a proxy nor do you need to dl irc client to join this chat, which is cool for me. lol k. | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yo i am on the train and in 1,5h home. Thread is certainly interesting so far. I already really like this game. <3 so why arent you saying anything at all about the game? | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i jate posring cia phone as it annoying to write. short thoughts on the person that is the scummiest. GO! | ||
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this is not a fucking thought dude. I wanna know why, not who. And its really possible that your thoughts changed. | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well shut the fuck up then if you are impatient to wait. I just lost my nerves on idiots who don't understand the concept of "can't play properly". You are pissing me off already so stop, wait andshut up, or call me mafia. I dont see why you care enough to post this but dont care enough to expand on your SL accusation unless you cant back it up right now. | ||
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On February 20 2015 01:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Oats you're a piece of shit just give him a minute. You know this now? Arent you curious? Like sure, hes angry for no reason. But angry enough to write a 3 line post with semi proper punctuation is not bad. And he cant just spend that time actually playing the game. Boo. | ||
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On February 20 2015 01:21 VisceraEyes wrote: Just consider that he's just come off a ban and probably just got lynched in his last game for "not playing properly" or whatever. Consider that if he's town this is certainly a reaction I can see coming from rayn. Just get off his dick man. So you give a pass because rayn is incapable of dealing with impolite people. Ok. | ||
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On February 20 2015 01:47 Koshi wrote: The only thing we are doing is not being an impatient bitch. I thought you hated rayn. | ||
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Also I wanted to see if you knew your read well enough to distill it to the most important bits. Which indicates your familiarity and confidence in your read. Its alright. Based on 2 posts. Meh Im not convinced. | ||
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On February 20 2015 02:44 Koshi wrote: Why are you so obnoxious? There is no content to talk about. And when I do make something you yell "fake" and discard it by making dumb assumptions. Im not wrong when I say you are useless. So you want me to use words other than fake? I think your read is made up and that you are scum. Rayn has posted content. And there doesnt need to be content for you to post things. It looks a lot like you are being reactive rather than proactive. | ||
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On February 20 2015 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: please state your vote also in this thread (this is why i hate voting threads). Oats do you think i do that as mafia? Do you think i do that as town? I mean what you just said. Also Koshi is town so your vote is in the bad place. im not voting in thread if I dont need to make a point with the vote. Its not a meta read. I think that the way you went around before posting your read was a little scummy though. If you already think hes scum, how hard is it to post even 1 line about why hes scum? | ||
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None of what im saying is personal man. You all gotta take a chill pill. Between the obnoxiousness towards rayn, the DIE DIE DIE scum "tunnel" on me and your silly assumption of snickers I already don't care about you this game. Hopefully somebody will read you correctly. Because if today comes down to PoE you will be on that list. This is straight up lazy. Even if I didnt think you were scum before, you are scum now for giving yourself an out for not playing later today. Ive played multiple fucking games with you. Multiple tens of games with you. And your read on me is like this. | ||
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On February 20 2015 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: But i did, you asked me. Like you know me dude. I like to keep my thoughts on myself for some time and encourage people to think why i post the stuff i do. Like do you not know that? What's wrong with my case? "Based on 2 posts" is a pretty BS reason to not be convinced on someone's case. No? You vomit your thoughts everywhere. Why do you have a huge filter every game then? Its not objectively wrong, its just that I dont agree with your conclusions on the first point that sl will delete stupid shit as town. and that he will take into account the trolling bit. He posts stupid shit all the time. Also I think its reasonable to assume that when you call someone scum, they are going to be the center of attention for at least a day. Its possible that I am biased against you and therefore dont give the case a proper review but thats where my thoughts lie. | ||
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Also, it doesn't make sense for scum to even mention this in the first place if it is blatantly not true and kurumi knows this. | ||
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He assumes ls is town. He gives no reason for randomly town reading geript and he drops his push on kurumi when kurumi comes up with something interesting. | ||
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Read on koshi? | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:31 Eden1892 wrote: Does geript argue like that as mafia? My impression is that when he gets angry and dug into his trenches like he has with Kurumi here, he's town, and that when he's mafia he tends to avoid tunneling much. I haven't seen his mafia play in a while (maybe ever?) but that's where that came from. (I also think mafia in general try to avoid this kind of argument.) Koshi I could see being mafia. Why not Snickers though? I liked what Koshi had to say about Snickers and I don't think Snickers has done anything to make me think otherwise. I feel that the whole conversation was kurumi saying, "Its like this", and geript saying, "No its not". Thats hardly tunneling. The reason I dont like Koshi's read on Snickers is that Koshi is doing the exact same thing and complaining about no content and asking people to produce content. | ||
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If you change your name then it registers as another view. Kurumi you noob. However, this doesnt make kurumi scum, it just makes him a fool. Can you tell me why scum Kurumi does this geript? | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:44 Eden1892 wrote: You must have missed the part where geript says "No way you do this as town" then - I thought it was pretty clear that geript thinks Kurumi is mafia for this and is zeroed in on it. Seems tunnely to me because he's ignoring the possibility that you were the source of the leak. (Were you?) Second part is pretty true, but it doesn't change anything about Snickers himself. I think Koshi's done more than Snickers pretty easily. Koshi dropped some info about LS, he's been questioning Kurumi about his plan for the game, and he brought up Snickers himself. Snickers hasn't done anything beyond calling random things bullshit without offering any analysis or potential suspects or anything. Geript knew he was the source of the extra view so he obviously didnt think it was me. Its more about the hypocritical aspect of his push on Snickers. And meta wise, Koshi is a lot more useful than this. Ive literally never seen him complain or mention the existence of content at all. | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:46 Snickers wrote: Do you guys want to lynch liars? I dont have a problem with it. Expand. | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:00 geript wrote: Sure I can, but only after you explain the following: 1. Why doesn't town!Kurumi want to figure out which 2 people are scum out of the 4 he listed? 2. Why doesn't town!Kurumi realize that QT is literally recognizing my posting from phone and from comp as different when there's obvious evidence of that? 3. Why doesn't town!Kurumi in any way verify anything I've written? Like it's super obvious that i have 1 post from my phone in the QT. He in no way even tries to verify that. It's super easy. 4. Why does town!Kurumi keep pushing me at all? Like I'm fucking ridiculously obviously town here. 1. I thought the whole point of that was to see our reactions. But you cut it short so meh. 2. Cause he has a certain view and thinks that you are mistaken. I mean, can you explain why doesnt scum!kurumi do that? It makes way more sense that town does this shit because he doesnt care about being wrong. 4. I dont think you as townie as you think, and if i didnt verify your claim, I would assume you are concocting some bullshit about phones and shit when you actually just made a mistake. | ||
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Just doesn't make sense to me.. And I don' buy that he intentionally did the push to be too dumb to be scum. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:25 Snickers wrote: rayns list of possible mafia and geripts are so close haha The list is basically who isn't a town read. Bad way to play. Hey rayn, not much going for your sl push, why do you think it's not gaining traction? | ||
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It's a pretty unsuspicious view rayn. | ||
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Basically you want me to believe that kurumi decided that it was a good idea to use unique visitors to make a bad push on people and then defend his wrong research hardcore. And that would make him look town. Right. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:38 geript wrote: And you're reading him as town for it, no? And? What's your point. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:40 LightningStrike wrote: Might break the rules though if I do a entire quotation of my pm conversation with Koshi and the 1 pm from sicklucker. I going to ask the mods if I can do that. Get modkilled mate. | ||
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On February 20 2015 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Each one of us has reached the same conclusion on their own so it's definitely not buddying. Explain that to me please. Someone has to start talking first. | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I would lynch into Rayn's list with blatant disregard. That's boring. Kurumi and koshi aren't in that list. Are they town? Rayn is such a tease. Says something interesting then leaves. | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:26 VisceraEyes wrote: It's fine, just go with it. Boring is sometimes the right play. We'll take it from there, see? Not all of them can be scum though. And it's sooooo passive. | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:30 Snickers wrote: That seems really like a really bad play. Or you are scum and trying to sway the fuck out of people. How about you try to prove whos town and mafia because if you are town it would benefit you. You think the rest of the people on the llist are town? | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:34 Snickers wrote: No I am deciding right now for realiziez whos I think is what. But holy fuck, that post by Ve is by far the scummiest thing Ive seen in this game. I almost fell off my chair. Anybody care to weigh in why the hell a townie would post that shit? Because it's not a bad idea? Why is it bad asking for people to make cases? | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:23 geript wrote: Snickers. So why is your vote on kurumi? | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:44 Snickers wrote: Hes asking people to make cases, but hes trying to limit who to make cases on. Hes trying to sway peoples' thinking way too much for me. Also it doesnt sit right hes holding rayn in such a high regard. Maybes hes not in that specific post but Ive been getting that vibe. Er what? This makes no sense to me. You can make a case on anyone but it would be the most effective if you made a case on someone the rest of the thread thinks is scummy. | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:50 geript wrote: Please strike LS from the lynch circle. Thank you for your complaince. Why,? | ||
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On February 20 2015 14:57 geript wrote: Because I'm quite sure he's town after talking with him for idk, like 2 hours on skype. Can you explain some points on how he convinced you? | ||
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On February 20 2015 15:13 liancourt wrote: oats get on irc I'm outta here house. | ||
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On February 20 2015 15:43 geript wrote: He explained how big my dick was and how pretty it was. I was very convinced by it. It made me think I was just a little bit bigger than it actually was. That's reasonable. Ve,, how is the overreaction scummy? | ||
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On February 20 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: The case on ve is awful. If me, koshi and ceript read him town that doesn't mean he is "trying to sneak into town circle". Like that is an awful misrepresentation of the situation. You got time to explain what conclusions you guys came to individually that makes you think the town circle is town? | ||
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On February 20 2015 18:25 Koshi wrote: O rly. Which townies does sickluster say you are attacking? The "town circle" | ||
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On February 20 2015 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yay! A couple of hours and i am home then. Oats are you around in 2h? Irc then if you are. probably, | ||
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Im talking to him in http://webchat.freenode.net/ (scumteam) | ||
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Care you revise that? | ||
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SL could still easily be scum. | ||
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He noped outta responsibility for lynching at least someone. Its hard to believe that Onegu is your strongest scum read after a day snickers. | ||
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at the very least i'd say that a good place to look is the group of people who haven't been utilizing the oot communication much. you have to filter for irl-related inactivity or other complications, but i think scum prefer not to use pm's if they can[/QUOTE] I think this is pretty legit though. Eden kinda pushes snickers a bit but once he comes back after koshi's baller case he never mentions him again. More focused on SL. Is that because SL is more likely to be lynched or Snickers is his scumbuddy. | ||
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On February 20 2015 19:13 Eden1892 wrote: at the very least i'd say that a good place to look is the group of people who haven't been utilizing the oot communication much. you have to filter for irl-related inactivity or other complications, but i think scum prefer not to use pm's if they can | ||
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YOU HAVE NEVER TALKED TO ONEGU. WHAT THE FUCK DUDE. You never even tried to get additional votes onto Onegu. What in the world was the point of your vote? Your situation and Onegu's situation is totally different. | ||
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So why would I not put my vote on someone who I think has been scummy and would be easy for other people to fucking vote on. Sorry what, how has Onegu been scummy? Can you quote posts and show me? And what did you do to get people to vote for Onegu? I assume if you vote Onegu you want him to die, but there is no evidence of you actually doing anything to kill Onegu. | ||
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And I did not even know where the fuck the votes were at and I did not care at that time cause I thought people would be switching the shit out of them. This is straight up your fault and you being too lazy to read the cases in the thread. Why were SL and Eden town? | ||
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On February 20 2015 18:42 Koshi wrote: It is also about the fact you are trying to manipulate Oats in thinking Snickers is more mafia than I am while keeping the option open I am mafia to Oats. This pushes your mafia agenda because 1) When I read your post it looks like you pick my side. 2) Oats is not fully convinced I am town. 3) Snickers looks actually pretty town to me since I recapped stuff this morning so you got that misslynch going. On February 21 2015 03:05 Koshi wrote: Eden: 1) Completely misreads and thinks I have Snickers as town. More likely mafia that misreads like this because not interested. 2) Tells Oats he is right thinking Koshi could be scum. Proceeds to give 5 reasons why he thinks Koshi is town. 3) Completely ignored the discussion between snickers/sl against VE. While he was around right before it started and came back after it cooled down and ignored it some more. 4) Has done 0 scumhunting. This is a guy that had 50 page filter after DAY 2 in his previous game!!! 5) Wants to stay out of the spotlight. Biggest example is that he says stuff like "if you guys don't decide to lynch sicklucker, please lynch liancourt" As if he knows he won't be able or willing to push his reads. This is Eden guys. On February 20 2015 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here: + Show Spoiler [for reference] + Last game i played with sicklucker on d2 i claimed townfirmed mason partners with his scumbuddy gobble. His reponses were the following: "Unvote gobble. rayn is in no fucking hell mason and he must be a cop or mafia. Gobble is still mafia but not the lynch today." Why doesn't this make any sense? Because these are the facts he SHOULD expect in that situation, as town:
Like first thought was "darn that dude must be mafia with gobble because there is NO FUCKING other way he would know i am in fact NOT mason with gobble (i was like the towniest person in the game besides Damdred and Onegu). I later on thought that was stupid and dropped the scumread on gobble because SL would have had to bussed him hard on D1 (which he in fact did lol). But that did not change the bulletpoint list facts. If anyone wants to read the argument it starts from here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?page=82#1639 and last about 5 or so pages. Which brings me to this post: Liek see how the post is constructed. I numbered it so it's easier. In [1] he says mafia Eden cound be trying to mimic her town play. On [2], if Eden is town she didn't read the OP and is trolling (which he doesn't even point out, which is one of the two MOST LIKELY explanations he doesn't even consider).On [3], he says that Eden could have missed the OP as mafia aswell, which makes his reasoning [1] 100% invalid. Now the problems are these. - I know when i write posts, especially posts this short, in case i realize in the middle of the post i wrote something stupid just before that (see points 1 and 3) I GO AND DELETE THAT PART BECAUSE EVEN I KNOW IT IS STUPID AS FUCK. - He misses the obvious conclusions, which are "eden is town trolling" or "eden is mafia trolling". Like he doesn't even point out those as POSSIBLE explanations. - Especially the last point then brings up this. Look at the discussion there was going on before (nested quotes). sicklucker is like.... only answering to the quotes above his posts and not thinking by himself, critically. These point out to him being mafia because his post makes no sense at all (as showed above) and i KNOW he has a tendency to not think enough about what he posts (as showed in spoilers) as mafia. On addition to that look at his next post. Here: This is overly defensive post (as someone i don't remember pointed out) and for a couple of reasons i think it's scummy. - I had not given any real reasons for my vote. Why is it in sl's world impossible i am mafia? If he thinks i could be mafia why is this "fixated". Like the defeated attitude is so over the top. - The only other vote on him is from VE. Who didn't even vote for real apparently. Also inbetween VE's vote and SL's post VE says "rayn is probably scum". YET SICKLUCKER THINKS THIS D1 -- at this point -- IS "FIXATED ON HIM"?!?!?!? reasonable conclusion from his perspective as town? as mafia it is because he would know i am town and i have something on him he doesn't even understand. but townies do not roll over and die when they don't even know what they are accused of. Like yes, townies do get defensive about the votes on them but not like this. Never. Now Oats, about this post: If i am reading correctly here you need to explain the following thing to me: You seem to be suggesting here that i am mafia and made a vote i can't back up. Now how does my explanation for my vote go and worse in case it takes some time to post it? Like do the reasons for someone being scum magically disappear if you don't say them early enough? Or can i somehow manage to construe a better made up reasoning for someone being mafia over time -- a reasoning that's NOT bad anymore? I don't see how this thought process of yours makes sense so please elaborate. On February 21 2015 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: sicklucker wanted to work with LS. I have two HUGEEE problems with this: 1) In the QT with liancourt and kurumi he literally says LS' reads are always crap and basically wrong. Why would you ever wanna work with someone you think has bad reads? Reading someone town is one thing but working with them is another. 2) Has he tried to work with LS since? I think all the evidence suggest otherwise. ##unvote ##vote sicklucker | ||
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On February 21 2015 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote: There is no way onegu pms people but does not post in thread. Sorry what, how has Onegu been scummy? Can you quote posts and show me? And what did you do to get people to vote for Onegu? I assume if you vote Onegu you want him to die, but there is no evidence of you actually doing anything to kill Onegu. | ||
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There are small bits and pieces scattered throughout the thread coming to lynch too. Snickers, why didnt you interact with the thread the few hours before lynch? You were clearly there cause you voted Onegu. So why not ask questions about the other 2 people up for lynch, Or convince people to vote Onegu. | ||
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Yeah snickers makes me mad but he's not scum Why is sl confirmed town? | ||
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FF are you scum? | ||
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On February 23 2015 00:00 VisceraEyes wrote: I wasn't going to say anything, but since no one is saying anything anyway, I'm avoiding the thread to avoid having to deal with your tunnel. Like, you're refusing to reevaluate on me and I'm having a really hard time trying to get motivated to play this game because I know that even if we lynch another mafia, you're going to still be alive the following day and so am I and you're going to lynch me and we're going to lose if you're town. Koshi seems to think so and I've started to come around as well. If you're town, you need to start thinking about coming around on me NOW, while we're definitely not lynching either one of us, before it's too late. Im sorry what? How is his tunnel very effective at all? This seems like a huge overreaction. | ||
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On February 23 2015 00:40 VisceraEyes wrote: It's not effective - he's convincing no one. My point though is that later on in the game when we're light a couple more townies, it might become MORE effective, and that's demotivating for me. Like, how can you see this as an overreation? I'm not even like, angry or anything. I'm stating observations and opinions that explain my mindset. Because its 3 sentences of "pls stop trying to lynch me" and this bit. I'm avoiding the thread to avoid having to deal with your tunnel. Like what has he posted in the last 24 hours about you being scum? | ||
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SL bullshitting hard. | ||
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On February 23 2015 13:36 geript wrote: Yah. Definitely not because of a case a real baller made that everyone ignored. your case was ridiculous. And you think Kurumi/lian/koshi/ve/oats are scum. Right.... | ||
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On February 23 2015 14:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Because he thinks geript is scum. DUH OATS!!! man im dumb. DUHHHHH. I just dont understand the huge bunch of whining by geript. Clearly if you get called mafia every game then you are doing something wrong. | ||
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And from what I do understand, Liancourt is scum because he hasnt done jack. Thats not a good case. Why SL over geript/ | ||
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He's not scummy but you want to lynch him? Do you understand how you make no sense whatsoever? | ||
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On February 23 2015 15:05 geript wrote: I'm not rage quitting Oats. Im rage joining. It's way different. Er you don't actually play anymore. That's quitting. | ||
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Also, why did you ask ls to check sl? | ||
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On February 23 2015 23:10 geript wrote: You're hard tow reading oats and snickers? That's like really bad. Guess you are mafia. dude who is town then? If everyone is scum. Koshi/Snickers/VE/Kurumi/Lian/Oats THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE YOU CALLED SCUM IN THE LAST 12 HOURS DUDE. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Lian | ||
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What made you think Geript was town? Cause it looks a lot like too much information. | ||
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Koshi Oatsmaster VisceraEyes sicklucker liancourt Kurumi DONT LYNCH THESE PEOPLE [/b] Snickers LightningStrike Onegu (FF) [/b] Great reads geript. Great. | ||
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Hows it going. Agree with Koshi's list? | ||
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On February 24 2015 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean, it includes the greencheck. I think that's kinda odd at this point. But other than that yeah. Kurumi is back and useless still. At some point something FF said rubbed me the wrong way, but then I remembered that he was Onegu and that FF had a PM conversation with someone and so I'm meeehhhhhhhh reconsidering FF. Liancourt is a logical choice too, giving us nothing to work with etc. In a vacuum I might prefer a Kurumi lynch. Why Kurumi? | ||
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On February 24 2015 01:02 VisceraEyes wrote: rayn wanted to lynch Kurumi D2. Rayn was then NK'd. Geript the townie was absolutely certain of Kurumi's guilt. Let's vote for Kurumi now and just get it over with. So kurumi came up with operation honeypot to look townie but knew that it would instantly be debunked??!? | ||
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If hes scum he knows about the cop. | ||
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Also, get your vote off the unCCed cop unless you claim cop. | ||
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I dont even know his reads on ANYONE whatsoever. Just comes in here, votes for kurumi and peaces out. Kurumi was totes town for operation Honeypot but all of you were too blind to see it. Oh well. | ||
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On February 24 2015 10:35 Fecalfeast wrote: koshi town, LS town, snickers was a mafia read before medic outing/claim, kurumi was a sheep vote. I missed you in IRC I noticed but if you want to talk why not PM? I'm here to talk to at any point So no one is scum. Cool. I don't pm people. They pm me. Where did snickers out being the medic? And why is ls town? | ||
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I wasn't asking you........ Ff don't be a dick and answer the questions. If you are reading the thread, then why didn't you name any scum reads? | ||
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On February 24 2015 12:22 sicklucker wrote: What ff's saying is not terrible. Getting people to rage to get them modkilled is a thing. Happens to rayn all the time So why don't you analyse it and see. Tbh though, the only active person I would consider lynching is ve. | ||
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On February 24 2015 14:51 VisceraEyes wrote: And I most certainly wasn't egging geript on. Geript has his own issues, and he'll be the source of a lot of his own pain. Dr. VE? | ||
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I deffo think that lian is way in front of everyone else though. | ||
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Why didn't scum kill the medic unless they knew 100% that he was going to be on the cop? and why didn't scum kill the medic or else cop gets 1 more check. And that pretty much means the whole game is checked. | ||
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You make absolutely no sense whatsoever. You personally insult VE and your condescending tone is abhorrent to such a polite person. also what the fuck is this And your whole 7x thing prob is wrong cause you need to factor in cop. And you should prob factor in medic too. There are 2 scum alive, with 1 showing green and one showing red. 7 of us alive. So discounting the cop, 5 of us show green. ONLY 1 IS THE GF. So its way more fucking likely that if you get greenchecked, you are town. This is even after koshi died. | ||
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On February 25 2015 22:27 LightningStrike wrote: Oats we lynching LC it's fine Im not concerned about that. Im concerned about what happens after that and if you dont get a red check. | ||
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On February 26 2015 00:53 Snickers wrote: If you are so concerned about it, the answer lies in the "branches". So if you trust me just wait till I get home. If you dont trust me do them yourself. I have no clue what "branches" are. | ||
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On February 26 2015 02:12 LightningStrike wrote: Well that's why I'm plan on checking you over Snickers because if Lian was the GF then by PoE then Snickers if the Role Cop if you come up as town Oats. Why not check someone you think will be red? | ||
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Isn't it only game over if lc is the gf? If he's the rolecop scum still have a chance. Like ve, I have a nagging feeling that we are getting played but there is absolutely no choice. We gotta lynch lc cause cop didn't get a redcheck. | ||
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Well thats the second worse case scenario but there is no way that both LC and sl are town. Im thinking I will lynch VE slightly over Snickers but if snickers keeps up this shit man, I will lynch your ass. | ||
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obviously we lynch SL tomorrow and if he isnt scum, then LS is dying and its lylo with me/you/snickers. Again, huge overreaction IRC chat below for reference. + Show Spoiler + visceraEyes: I can't believe you just said you'd lynch me visceraEyes: wtf visceraEyes: You better explain that shit Oatsmaster: er Oatsmaster: life is tough and sometimes you dont get what you want? Oatsmaster: seriously though, snickers is like too crazy to be scum visceraEyes: That doesn't mean it's me Oatsmaster: I dont understand what in the world his branches shit is visceraEyes: JEsus Oats Oatsmaster: if its not me and snickers and its lylo Oatsmaster: its you Oatsmaster: did you even read that post lol visceraEyes: ITS NOT LYLO YET visceraEyes: Like why are you giving mafia a roadmap to victory? visceraEyes: Whatever visceraEyes: Lynch whoever you want | ||
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On February 27 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote: So since Oats has taken leave of his mind, this is probably the last post I make until people start voting for me for the lose. its like 52% 48%. What are you even smoking. If you do afk though, i am lynching your ass. | ||
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So who do we lynch tomorrow, please tell me. | ||
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On February 27 2015 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I think he disappeared because he knows he fucked up. He told us what's going to happen trying to incriminate me, outting himself as mafia I think. Like if liancourt flips Rolecop then I'm taking a really HARD look at Oats. So im getting called scum because Im actually trying to play the game. Ridiculous. | ||
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On February 27 2015 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote: I DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE LYNCH LIANCOURT AND SEE HOW HE FLIPS OATS DUDE IF HE FLIPS ROLECOP THE GAME IS FUCKING OVER. | ||
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None of this is important. We are defintely going to lynch 1 scum and going into Lylo with either VE/oats/sl or VE/oats/Snickers. First one im obviously lynching SL so that doesnt need to be explained. Second one is the only one that is important. | ||
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On February 27 2015 02:20 VisceraEyes wrote: THATS NOT TRUE IT GOES TO A FINAL THREE WITH A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WHO WANT TO LYNCH VE I actually meant GF there, my bad. | ||
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On February 27 2015 02:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Like from my perspective Snickers (as town) has a reason to assume that LC will flip Rolecop and it's because he's "made up his mind" that he thinks I'm GF. His confirmation bias has that fact just lodged in his brain. That's not the case where Oats is concerned, he isn't currently assuming I'm guilty with a greencheck on me, so he can't make the connection that LC must be the Rolecop. That's why Oats is suspicious for making that assumption but Snickers isn't, in theory. Have you not realised that if LC is the GF, the game is over? | ||
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On February 27 2015 12:45 Snickers wrote: Dont put me into lylo with me oats and ve. That would be absolutely terrible. If that happens I am going to afk from the thread until the game is over. so basically you are threatening us to lynch SL today. Great. | ||
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On February 27 2015 12:50 sicklucker wrote: Thats funny ff im way more involved then you are. Like I know im lynched in the next two. I dont think its correct but I know its happening I can flame kosh later sheep gonna sheep. I just want to make sure are other lynch is correct and Im sure its oats hes never tried this hard ever. This is the guy whos done nothing in my last 4 games as vt. Here hes vt? im not buying it er right. Thats not how meta works. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:01 sicklucker wrote: Like why is everyone so certain oats is town? I dont get these phantom townreads on him. Hes the person im most afraid of losing too. He never talks to me in irc, he never pms me. Hes just hides behind koshi while they never explain why hes town I could say the exact same thing about you. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:07 sicklucker wrote: I dont feel comfortable putting oats in final 3 because I know he will win the game for mafia lets kill him today then if im wrong you can kill me oh well This is so wrong. You dont even know why Im scum, and you are willing to risk the game that I am scum. Do you realise that its lylo tmr? So why would you suggest that town kill you and fucking lose the game? totes scumslip right here. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:28 Snickers wrote: ITS NOT LYLO TOMORROW. i meant like day 4, not literally tmr. | ||
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Whatever, the next lynch after this one. | ||
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er yeah what? SL just scumslipped. So obvious. | ||
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On February 27 2015 13:46 Snickers wrote: ve just did the exact same scumslip oats last page. Are you being serious with me. ve has scum slipped multiple time. you are refering to minor scum slips. Ve also did a major scum slip that is even more likely to be true now that lc has fliped rb. Plz mafia gods give me the grace to convince town or give town the grace to find mafia. er what? VE didnt do exactly the same scumslip. | ||
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I do not understand what you are saying. | ||
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On February 27 2015 14:18 sicklucker wrote: Like no its not the same I accept my fate I just want you to come with me what? I meant the bit about not talking to you in IRC and PMing you. It doesnt make me scum. | ||
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we both cant be scum. Anyway if snickers is in fact town, im confirming myself as town. So literally no lose. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:33 VisceraEyes wrote: It's fine, if it's not Snickers it's Oats. And I'll get him tomorrow if it's not Snickers. But it's Snickers, so stand firm. It cant fucking be me or snickers. If it was me, i would lynch snickers ass. But im not doing it. So Im not scum. | ||
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He has no reservations about lynching me without even rethinking his whole view if snickers flips town. Apparently it doesnt change ANYTHING for ve. Setting up lynches is a mafia tell. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Oats just shut up and vote for Snickers. Get fucked mate, im not voting for Snickers now or ever because I actually want to win the game. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:45 VisceraEyes wrote: Oats I don't care what you're saying right now. I'm not setting up your mislynch. I reevaluate everything, day to day. I say I want to lynch you tomorrow, but if Snickers flips town that changes fucking everything doesn't it? So shut up and vote for Snickers so we can move the game along. I'm tired of Snickers lying about me, and I'm tired of you eating it up like a fucking panda. You're not a panda Oats you're a man. Be a man and vote for the fucking mafia. Er what? I say I want to lynch you tomorrow, but if Snickers flips town that changes fucking everything doesn't it? The only way we get to tomorrow is if Snickers flips town. So apparently that doesnt change everything. Scumslip. DIE VE. DIE. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:50 VisceraEyes wrote: I've said that I want to lynch you tomorrow IF Snickers is town. IFFFFF FUCKING IFFF OATS!!@! IIFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!! . I reevaluate everything, day to day. I say I want to lynch you tomorrow, but if Snickers flips town that changes fucking everything doesn't it? Obvious contradiction. Game over, lynch VE. | ||
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EVERY SINGLE ONE. He just quit again. | ||
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On February 28 2015 14:58 Snickers wrote: Oats if I get modkilled you need to make sure everyone reads my filter as of fecalfeast's death. im lynching VE. | ||
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On February 28 2015 15:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Er N1, back after Eden flipped mafia and rayn was still alive. Rayn (God rest his soul) died after noticing this. Let us lynch Snickers in his name. I really really hate when people lynch because a dead townie said so. Things change. Dead townie has been dead for like 3 days. Irrelevant. Appealing to Authority. VE SCUM. | ||
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On February 28 2015 17:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Also I like how Oats thinks I lost that IRC conversation when all he's doing is going "I AM SO LYNCHING YOU OVER SL TOMORROW! YOU CAN GET LYNCHED! YOU'RE SCUM!" so I leave. Like - how is that me losing? It's me walking away from a clearly already out of control situation. You clearly lost. VE|Dinner But Snickers is mafia VE|Dinner And if he's not then I will find out who is. Oatsmaster you can get lynched VE|Dinner Okay Clearly. | ||
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The problem with that is one of us is definitely town, so it clearly can't be a scumtell if a townie does it too. So Ve is better than this and therefore is scum. Also, ve, why would scum oats defend snickers and go after you? That's so stupid. Why don't I just chill and find stuff to throw at sl? He hasn't been townie at all this game, I'm sure it's not too hard to make a case. Ve clearly does think it through and therefore is scum trying to get me and snickers lynched without you thinking too much sl. | ||
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Ve can you tell me why I'm scum if I did the same stuff as snickers? Can you also tell me why I decide to attack you rather than just take a chill pill like sl and lynch snickers?. | ||
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On March 02 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't understand - you're using Snickers' innocence as proof of YOUR OWN innocence, but Snickers hasn't even flipped yet. Maybe I lynch you instead of Snickers this day. BECAUSE IF HE FUCKING FLIPS SCUM THE GAME IS FUCKING OVER. HOW DO YOU CONSTANTLY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THIS??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? | ||
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Seriously though ve what in the world. Sl is totes scum. Like straight up. Snicker cannot be scum. Cannot. | ||
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did you read the last day? Clearly you agree with it in some form because you unvoted snickers, but the last day felt so much like a town on town. | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:37 sicklucker wrote: Of course yesterday was all town vs town. Because it was the 4 towns left in the game all talking with you absent Er yeah, you totally were more useful to the discussion than me. Like this is the sort of shit scum says because they are insecure. | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:49 sicklucker wrote: By prevoting me oats has given snickers the hammer so if hes mafia hes already won. So now its between me and oats which im happy to do and win town the game ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? | ||
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On March 02 2015 12:44 sicklucker wrote: Like if your town why did you come out and say your voting me? Like why not wait 12 hours? Why affect the nightkill? Now if snickers were the mafia he would have auto by nk Ls ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME RIGHT YOU? fuck. this doesnt deserve an answer. | ||
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On March 02 2015 15:52 sicklucker wrote: No... Like its common sense to not say who your voting in final 3 if you can help it.. Its like drawing scum a map to victory ..................................................................................................................................................................................................... | ||
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On March 03 2015 09:27 sicklucker wrote: Lol its so oats. Hes the only one who doesint care enough to not make a nk. Were probably not going to but sleep is an option ##vote oats this is stupid as fuck. There are no benefits to not nightkilling except that it gives us another day to get things correct but apparently you dont care. And also, for LS to lynch me. Face it, the non-nightkill implicates you far more than it implicates me. | ||
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On March 03 2015 10:15 Snickers wrote: I will vote oats later Why would you do that? Again, guys think, why would I stupidly go for town ve as scum when I can go with the flow and get town snickers so I don't stand out so much. It makes 0 fucking sense. | ||
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On March 03 2015 10:14 Snickers wrote: It's either oats is too lazy to night kill or you got so drunk from this auto win that you forgot too let me explain why the non night kill is beneficial to sl. Ls wants to lynch me. So another dude alive to convince the other townie that I'm scum. Let me explain why the non nightkill doesn't benefit me. Now I have to convince 2 people that I'm innocent. Also, sl voted super early and since it's plurality, first to 2 votes will get lynched. So even if I convince one, it doesn't work. I still die. In essence, it makes no sense for scum!oats to not nightkill Ls. | ||
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On March 03 2015 16:01 sicklucker wrote: Ls had a town read on oats. He pretty much had been sheeping koshi untill very recently. So at the time it made sense but I think ls voted oats for 5 seconds so its whatever. Also I dont think Ls is coming back to this game so we should move on Why are you lying? Ls never said anything about a town read on me the last few days. And he was totally going to vote me after ve flipped town. Snickers, ve only started thinking I was scum when I started pushing him. So if I just sheeeped like sl, I would be able to slip by and persuade ve to vote with me. The no kill makes no fucking sense from my perspective. Sl is putting a huge spin and acting like he has already won. Fake confidence. What happened to his scum read on you Snickers? Who knows. He is also acting like he did anything during the last day which is completely untrue. So sl is scum because he benefits the most from a no kill, his scumread on Snickers disappeared when I became the easier lynch, he is faking a confident tone that I am 100% going to flip scum. He has no rational reasons why I am scum. He is lying to make me look worse. | ||
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On March 03 2015 15:28 sicklucker wrote: Oh I know keeping in both me and snickers gives you more targets to sway Ls to vote two is better then one. This is so stupid and wrong. Scum! Oats wants more people to convince so he didn't nightkill??? | ||
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On March 03 2015 20:21 sicklucker wrote: More people you can convince* you only needed one vote Im saying Ls is more likely to follow koshis reads which is not a lie and definitely true gnight LS is completely not more likely to follow koshi's reads. Lie. | ||
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On March 03 2015 22:57 LightningStrike wrote: Sorry guys I was accidentally nuked from outside of game stuff but that wont matter now that I'm here and now that I think about it VE is a prophet saying if both Snickers and him are Town I wont get shot and was right but knowing VE said it to Snickers idk it seems weird. What do you think about SL's claim that I wouldnt shoot you because you will vote with me? | ||
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On March 04 2015 00:47 LightningStrike wrote: Kinda meh I could vote with anyone seeing I am confirmed town. So it makes like no sense for me to not kill you right?!?!? | ||
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On March 04 2015 01:32 LightningStrike wrote: It makes no sense to not kill me before MYLO or LYLO since I am unCCed Cop. Well yeah. Im thinking that we nolynch here to give us more time, if the situation persists then we lynch, but there is completely no need to lynch someone today. | ||
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On March 04 2015 03:12 Snickers wrote: yea but scum can come in the last moment and lynch one. Its not a majority lynch. no they cant, if all of us vote nolynch. | ||
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Read my shit. Dont just assume im scum because some townie said so, read my filter and make your own conclusion. If you can make a case, then you can see my response and decide from there. The scumteam member isnt going to do any of this, but is just going to deride me and appeal to authority. Make your own conclusion, play the game and make the choice. | ||
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The game is not over. | ||
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PLEASE JUST MAKE ONE LAST EFFORT. Even if you still think im scum, thats alright. Just dont lose this game because you didnt want to think more about the game. Cheers. | ||
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gj ls and snickers. GG guys. | ||
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