Office Mini Mafia - Page 40

On February 20 2015 18:42 Koshi wrote:
It is also about the fact you are trying to manipulate Oats in thinking Snickers is more mafia than I am while keeping the option open I am mafia to Oats.

This pushes your mafia agenda because
1) When I read your post it looks like you pick my side.
2) Oats is not fully convinced I am town.
3) Snickers looks actually pretty town to me since I recapped stuff this morning so you got that misslynch going.

On February 21 2015 03:05 Koshi wrote:
Eden:

1) Completely misreads and thinks I have Snickers as town. More likely mafia that misreads like this because not interested.

2) Tells Oats he is right thinking Koshi could be scum. Proceeds to give 5 reasons why he thinks Koshi is town.

3) Completely ignored the discussion between snickers/sl against VE. While he was around right before it started and came back after it cooled down and ignored it some more.

4) Has done 0 scumhunting. This is a guy that had 50 page filter after DAY 2 in his previous game!!!

5) Wants to stay out of the spotlight. Biggest example is that he says stuff like "if you guys don't decide to lynch sicklucker, please lynch liancourt" As if he knows he won't be able or willing to push his reads. This is Eden guys.

On February 20 2015 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So here:
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Which brings me to this post:

Liek see how the post is constructed. I numbered it so it's easier.
In [1] he says mafia Eden cound be trying to mimic her town play. On [2], if Eden is town she didn't read the OP and is trolling (which he doesn't even point out, which is one of the two MOST LIKELY explanations he doesn't even consider).On [3], he says that Eden could have missed the OP as mafia aswell, which makes his reasoning [1] 100% invalid.

Now the problems are these.
- I know when i write posts, especially posts this short, in case i realize in the middle of the post i wrote something stupid just before that (see points 1 and 3) I GO AND DELETE THAT PART BECAUSE EVEN I KNOW IT IS STUPID AS FUCK.
- He misses the obvious conclusions, which are "eden is town trolling" or "eden is mafia trolling". Like he doesn't even point out those as POSSIBLE explanations.
- Especially the last point then brings up this. Look at the discussion there was going on before (nested quotes). sicklucker is like.... only answering to the quotes above his posts and not thinking by himself, critically.

These point out to him being mafia because his post makes no sense at all (as showed above) and i KNOW he has a tendency to not think enough about what he posts (as showed in spoilers) as mafia.

On addition to that look at his next post. Here:

This is overly defensive post (as someone i don't remember pointed out) and for a couple of reasons i think it's scummy.
- I had not given any real reasons for my vote. Why is it in sl's world impossible i am mafia? If he thinks i could be mafia why is this "fixated". Like the defeated attitude is so over the top.
- The only other vote on him is from VE. Who didn't even vote for real apparently. Also inbetween VE's vote and SL's post VE says "rayn is probably scum".

YET SICKLUCKER THINKS THIS D1 -- at this point -- IS "FIXATED ON HIM"?!?!?!?
reasonable conclusion from his perspective as town?
as mafia it is because he would know i am town and i have something on him he doesn't even understand. but townies do not roll over and die when they don't even know what they are accused of.

Like yes, townies do get defensive about the votes on them but not like this. Never.

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Now Oats, about this post:

If i am reading correctly here you need to explain the following thing to me:
You seem to be suggesting here that i am mafia and made a vote i can't back up. Now how does my explanation for my vote go and worse in case it takes some time to post it? Like do the reasons for someone being scum magically disappear if you don't say them early enough? Or can i somehow manage to construe a better made up reasoning for someone being mafia over time -- a reasoning that's NOT bad anymore? I don't see how this thought process of yours makes sense so please elaborate.

On February 21 2015 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker wanted to work with LS. I have two HUGEEE problems with this:
1) In the QT with liancourt and kurumi he literally says LS' reads are always crap and basically wrong. Why would you ever wanna work with someone you think has bad reads? Reading someone town is one thing but working with them is another.
2) Has he tried to work with LS since? I think all the evidence suggest otherwise.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker

On February 21 2015 13:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
There is no way onegu pms people but does not post in thread.



Sorry what, how has Onegu been scummy? Can you quote posts and show me?

And what did you do to get people to vote for Onegu? I assume if you vote Onegu you want him to die, but there is no evidence of you actually doing anything to kill Onegu.

On February 20 2015 19:06 Eden1892 wrote:
ugh, bad timing, i'm going to bed and working a double tomorrow. idk how spectacular i can be

i still think you should lynch sicklucker. i'm not sure what it is about his list post that changed your mind, because to me it proved he's been following things but not that he's trying to solve the game (as evidenced by his lack of meaningful posts in the thread or oot communication), which i'd expect from mafia sicklucker. town sicklucker is all over the thread, digging into all kinds of leads, trying to turn up whatever he can. the leads don't even have to make sense, they just have to exist. they don't exist

if you won't lynch him, my next shot would be liancourt. this one's admittedly more of a crapshoot but it's based on 2 things:
- him also not doing anything substantial to solve the game in what activity i've seen from him
- an incident i saw in irc (no logs, gg, but snickers will confirm) where snickers was pushing him to give suspects or show anything indicating he was solving the game. liancourt just deflected pretty much everything and called snickers scum for omgusing

i'm not as confident here, because i've literally seen the second point happen to me when we were town together, but i think the two points in conjunction are good enough to lynch on.

after that there's onegu, who i prodded to play. i don't actually want to lynch him but we'll have to eventually since palmar doesn't modkill inactives.

there's a lot of people being townie though... i thought kurumi was town earlier, and i still do, but i'm looking to see how he deals with his geript push when he wakes up. i'll pm that thought process to you

after that shrug

On February 20 2015 21:46 LoneMeow wrote:
Vote count:

Koshi (0): Oatsmaster
LightningStrike (1): Kurumi
sicklucker (3): raynpelikoneet, Eden1892, VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster
Eden1892 (1): Koshi
Snickers (2): raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Eden1892, liancourt
VisceraEyes (2): sicklucker, Snickers, Snickers, Snickers
Kurumi (1): geript

Not voting (2): LightningStrike, Onegu

sicklucker is set to be lynched. Deadline is in .
Remember to vote in the voting thread.

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