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I'm most excited to play the 'who's smurf is this?' game | ||
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On February 13 2015 14:49 Half the Sky wrote: *fights you* ![]() Well 2 at once is too much for me, I did that and learnt the hard way. Yeah but I'm poop anyway | ||
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On February 14 2015 05:18 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Mafia is also a game of patience you silly goose EDIT: I still put 2014 in my dates ![]() almost time, boys | ||
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On February 14 2015 14:20 VayneAuthority wrote: host meta, ive been VT in every titanic game so im confirmed town, if you wish to join my circle make your case Wow, infallible logic. What an air-tight case. VA for mayor | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:17 Half the Sky wrote: Ritoky, you're scumreading FF? Why? He doesn't seem to do much D1 as town from what I recall, but what is jumping out at you here? I love how serious you are all the time lol | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:20 ritoky wrote: he is choosing to engage in conversation in places that are unnatural feeling. his only 2 real posts are a summary of his view of BH's play, and him talking to slam. seems like scum having a hard time comfortably fitting in to the atmosphere. plus we have never had the same alignment, and I rolled town; so logic. On December 01 2014 03:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You know what, I have all the actions in, let's speed things up a bit: Ritoky the Doctor was shot! It is now Day 5. There are 4 of you remaining. Deadline in On December 01 2014 14:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Endgame: Town wins! Congrats to rayn, VE and Fecal for surviving! Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/scmc8Dz7KQ5 Obs QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/s9L6zzNgBfsW I didn't actually rig anything this game! The only thing I changed arbitrarily was when Slam used Chez's shot, so I made up a compromise so he could do it by himself. Lynch all liars ##vote ritoky | ||
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Now I'm slightly annoyed by how seriously you take everything... | ||
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On February 14 2015 16:08 Half the Sky wrote: This is generally how I play town. I've played with you before. And Ritoky might have a point here. You don't seem comfortable here. But even if you aren't comfortable with me, why not interact with the others? Am I to keep notes on when and why I make posts before, during and after I make them? I'll have to find a pen.... | ||
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On February 14 2015 16:12 Half the Sky wrote: That is besides the point. You don't seem very comfortable. Ritoky was the first to make such an observation. I agreed upon seeing your latest response to me. But even prior to my observation, the easiest way to refute that would have been to change your behaviour. I don't care what you and ritoky think of my posting, though. I'm not sure how you can gauge my level of comfort through text anyway... You also don't seem very comfortable. You seem like you are trying so hard to act like you're trying to solve a game that's been going on for less than 3 hours... | ||
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On February 14 2015 16:14 liancourt wrote: FF is playing as if he cares. It's a town tell so...he's mafia. FF might actually be mafia. ##unvote ##vote FF I would gladly accept a mislynch for trying to play, if only to stop people from saying exactly what you just said. | ||
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On February 14 2015 16:18 Half the Sky wrote: Not any different from how I normally play as town. I say what is on my mind. If you don't agree with it, then counterargue. Level of comfort? You just said you were annoyed at how serious I sounded. That indicates you're not comfortable with me, at least. You've played with me before. You should be somewhat familiar with my town play. I smoke weed upwards of three times a day. I'm happy I can remember my name most days | ||
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On February 14 2015 16:21 liancourt wrote: You are over reacting a tad bit like a lass. Don't you generally don't give a hoot and play more comfortably? Oh fuck you caught me, I thought I could hide my hooters but they just don't wuit | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:03 Superbia wrote: What's up boys. You're in this? | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:22 Superbia wrote: I'm just going to go ahead and call someone mafia: raynpelikoneet Just for funzies? | ||
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On February 14 2015 18:44 Superbia wrote: Why did you feel the need to split up the explanation post and the post with the actual RNG? The first post generates the number with the post ID, like if you click the # at the top right of his post it will match the number in the second post | ||
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On February 14 2015 15:35 Blazinghand wrote: It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch. So here's what happens 1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s sitewide post count modulo 17. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively. I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explanation, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG. In this case, 1 = rayn 2 = HtS etc etc all the way up to 16 = Breshke 0 = FecalFeast (since a multiple of 17 modulo 17 is 0, not 17, we end with 0). + Show Spoiler [player list] + 1. raynpelikoneet 2. Half the Sky 3. ritoky 4. VayneAuthority 5. liancourt 6. Town Puppy 7. IAmRobik 8. rsoultin 9. LightningStrike 10. KelsierSC 11. Palmar 12. Alakaslam 13. prplhz 14. Blazinghand 15. Superbia 16. Breshke 0. Fecalfeast there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty has this as a link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23757725 On February 14 2015 15:36 Blazinghand wrote: The Post count for my RNG declaration post was 23757725 23757725 mod 17 = 4 4th player is VayneAuthority ##vote VayneAuthority VA, your lynch has been determined by RNG. SUBMIT YOURSELF UNTO DEATH. | ||
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On February 14 2015 19:57 Palmar wrote: This is the part where everyone is meant to get excited btw "why is palmar calling rayn mafia"? "Is he trolling? is he 4real? is this reality?" watching proleague so just imagine i did all that stuff and continue | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [quotes and comments] + On February 15 2015 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: You literally used the wording "randomized policy lynch". There is nothing randomized in your lynch suggestion on BH. I dislike how rayn gets so bent out of shape over semantics here. Not productive at all. On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote: Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though: Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike. Thoughts? HtS has trouble reading BH's post where he explicitly admits to forging the read on VA from nothing. Continues to do so for next couple pages. Not sure this is mafia but to keep saying "I re-read twice and BH's filter twice" and not see what everyone else sees is a little strange. Maybe coming from a different viewpoint it really is confusing... ![]() On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote: does anybody know what's going on in this thread Is this the first post from this player? If so, yuck. On February 15 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote: I am down for bluehunting prplhz btw. On February 15 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote: prplhz, who do you think are the blues? Also, how do you think we should go about identifying blues? I am 100% serious here, I am going to try to figure out blue roles with you. at first I was like "Palmar read the OP and is trying to bait people who haven't" On February 15 2015 00:45 Palmar wrote: oh wait, the blues are the mafia? then I was like ".....really?" On February 15 2015 00:49 Palmar wrote: Like I had this entire thing ready where I was going to talk about how blues were more likely to be agreeable with things without actually pushing them, probably not at the forefront of any pushes and probably not going to be hyper active either and then I was gonna point out how exactly those same attributes apply to mafia and look really smart. But I think prplhz actually outsmarted me. I must now commit sudoku. now I think he's not lying and that prplhz actually caught him. On February 15 2015 00:31 IAmRobik wrote: I want to bury HtS, but I don't want to do so incorrectly. I just read what she writes and I'm flabbergasted that she is saying the shit she's saying. 1) As someone brought up, it was the fact that she wasn't getting anywhere with her 20 questions 2) she brings up shit that doesn't make logical sense...like what does me discussing the values of having "conversations" have to do with her playing the aforementioned 20 questions and then not giving thoughts on opinions on the people she's grilling? And what does MY version of playing the game have to do with HER version of playing the game (and why is that supposed to influence how I read her?) These baffling questions are something I must find an answer to. Agreeing with robik is the first sign of insanity, right? I've gotta see a doctor On February 15 2015 04:07 Town Puppy wrote: OK so this is kind of a bizarre question to me. Two reasons why: (1) It's so... buzzy. What does that question even mean? It sounds like she's just mentioning something off a mental checklist of things to talk about, almost. I'm calling it the checklist test. (2) I felt like FF was "interacting with the others" which makes (1) even stranger. Aww I like this puppy On February 15 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote: I have an issue that you can't seem to make up your mind from post to post...or rather are making post after post without your read going anywhere. ^^ What's the point of that? And lol xP you seem to be really stretching for that evaluation of her post. I find it strange that she accepts another player's judgment on FF's comfort level with the thread and gets into a "you're not comfortable" "yes I am" argument back and forth with FF, not any silliness you were posting about xP please show me this back and forth argument please, I don't remember it. from my reading I have these reads rayn - scumlean palmar - scumlean LS- town HtS - scum puppydog- townlean/null superbia - scumlean If I missed any quotes let me know I'm pretty tilted about losing my last post | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:11 ritoky wrote: how is no one else bothered by rsoultin's excessive use of smiley faces and copious quantities of unnecessary adjectives? Sounds like something I'd be bothered by, though I didn't notice it while skimming pages 24 onward | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:15 Breshke wrote: Where did the scumlean on superbia come from? You think a scum palmar "gets caught" wanting to hunt for power roles. I think that is a bad read. super has less than a page of filter and spends most of it talking about BH's RNG post when he claimed to have a scumread on rayn. When rayn asks about the scumread, super goes AWOL for 13 hours? scummy. Ok, maybe palmar's not that bad, it still seems scummy to me. Almost like a cocky "you caught me but who cares?" | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:19 ritoky wrote: the post you quoted has 3 smileys in it, how did you not notice the emoji? Probably selective reading, I dislike constant emoticon usage so I imagine I blocked it out. Does rsou usually use mad faces? I guess not if you've taken notice | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:27 Breshke wrote: The emoticon thing is normal for her. She got called out on it when she was mafia for not using them enough. I don't know if this is more or less than her town emoticons nor do I think it is really worth trying to discern alignment from. The unnecessary adjective thing sounds good though. Ritoky could you explain to me why this would be scummy. Ooh, ooh, I know, I know. *raises hand and waves it back and forth* | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote: on a completely unrelated note, while exploring other things I forgot about my childhood thanks to slam; I stumbled across this gem: ![]() can you name the people in this picture slam? 'The General', Carlton, Arnold from hey arnold with his head rotated 90º, Racist Randy, Cartman, Ellen DeGeneres + Show Spoiler + JK I love recess | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:28 Breshke wrote: So you think superbias scumread of rayn was serious? I think it was pointless. If he was joking, why would he say: and then if he was joking around ? | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:42 rsoultin wrote: lol, one of these days I'll invest in a sarcasm sign xP It's sorely needed. Must say, though, you may actually be town this game ^^ as these arguments are a tier above the ones you tried to use to justify taking a shot at me in carol. Also, FF, dude, if you can't remember the stupid argument you had with HtS about whether you were posting comfortably or not, don't know how to help you. Alzheimers is real xP You said we went back and forth with 'you're uncomfortable' and 'no I'm not' I don't think we did. I think I said something more similar to "I don't care what you think of my posting" | ||
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On February 15 2015 07:42 Breshke wrote: I don't think you can really compare ayns HTS thing to superbias rayn thing. Rayn had given reasons and what not to why he thought HTS was scum so for him to back flip and say it was a joke would be weird. I think it is totally possible superbias can make a joke read while call bullshit when he thinks someone else made a joke read Rayn addresses superbia: On February 14 2015 18:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Superbia explain your scumread and stop talking about irrelevant shit. to which super replies They are literally talking about super's scumread how can I not use this as an example of super's read being serious? | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:04 Superbia wrote: I'm here boys. Be more town. Thx | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote: I'm already town. On a lack of sleep so lacking reading comprehension. What you up to FF? I agree rayn could be scum but I also think you might be scum. Mind giving me something juicy to chew on? I'm off to work soon. | ||
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While I do care about slam and his problems, is this really the best thread? | ||
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On February 15 2015 08:57 ritoky wrote: alright FF, let's play a fill in the blanks game!!!!!! your turn: robik is ___angry___ because __he hates fun___ also he smells like ___me___ | ||
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On February 15 2015 09:31 Onegu wrote: Votecount (1) Half the Sky - raynpelikoneet (1) Fecalfeast - liancourt (1) Blazinghand - rsoultin (3) VayneAuthority - Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Town Puppy (1) ritoky - Fecalfeast (1) Superbia - LightningStrike VayneAuthority is set to be lynched. Voting ends in I thought I unvoted ##unvote | ||
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On February 15 2015 09:28 liancourt wrote: But do we want to waste a lynch on d1 on policy than obvious scum FF? Huh, I'm fairly close to an omgus vote. Why am I scum? | ||
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On February 15 2015 10:39 Superbia wrote: Honestly I was kind of tired and about to go away when rayn entered the field. Except you opened with your rayn read then moved on to talk about BH RNG shit and didn't say anything about rayn until he called you out.. You could have talked about it before you were asked directly | ||
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On February 15 2015 11:04 liancourt wrote: Nah he can just die You're not usually so bloodthirsty lian, what's the deal? | ||
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On February 15 2015 11:26 ritoky wrote: The vast majority of it is "I don't agree with his reads" and predicated on HtS being lock clear town for you. That's great, HtS isn't lock clear town and disagreeing with reads doesn't qualify a case as "great". So yes it is weak. +1 thought the same thing | ||
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On February 15 2015 12:23 LightningStrike wrote: EBWOP: Null on the fact she is claimed Miller but no one has counterclaimed yet so she could be town for it but otherwise I don't see her normal town play this game. Near the beginning of the game when HtS was trying to make me seem uncomfortable, she said she was playing her normal town game. Where do you see differences? | ||
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On February 15 2015 13:29 rsoultin wrote: I find it null, and I don't like most of the rest of her play, Eden. 1. I've seen hosts run more than one miller, and this is a 17p game. Debunked. 2. Debunked because of 1. Also, there being the potential of more than one miller makes the play less risky. 3. Debunked because of 1 and 2. 4. Debunked because of 2 (I'm not sure if she takes risks much as scum, having only seen her scum game once.) 5. Not a point if the first 4 aren't valid. 6. See 5. You are not seeing the difference between a 17 player game were HtS claimed miller instantly and there could legitimately be more than one miller in the game, vice a 13 player game where marv was townread for CCing a miller claim which genuinely did run a high chance of seeing him lynched if he was scum fake-claiming. That neither you nor HtS understand this is frankly mind-boggling to me >< and why I think you're full of it. I was just about to make a post regarding the people accepting there is only one miller. In fact I happen to know at least one host (foolishness) that enjoys adding millers to any setup from having talks about balancing metal mini. | ||
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On February 15 2015 13:40 Half the Sky wrote: To be fair I had already brought up the possibility of multiple millers as well early on. So you did. I like your rayn post, see also that he spent almost an entire page (game page not filter page) getting upset over the semantics of rsoultin's post that made fun of BH's RNG | ||
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On February 15 2015 13:47 Half the Sky wrote: FF, since you're in thread, do answer this: So you're not sure I'm mafia, but then your conclusion indicates you think I am. That really makes no sense. Not sure if you're sheeping others' reads on me but since that's the only thing you cite, that's quite a jump based on what you had said. Care to elaborate? I'll start by saying that I really did lose that post once so there may have been another quote in there. That said, yes it was mostly sheeping on top of my curious findings in your filter on top of the miller claim which I did not mention | ||
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[B]##vote rayn[b] | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote: If anyone want me to make a meta case on Slam being Mafia I can for Day 2/3 If you think slam is mafia for meta reasons why do you need thread approval to make a case? | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:21 IAmRobik wrote: I think I'd rather just lynch lian today I'm in if you do it first | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:28 IAmRobik wrote: The problem is if one of them IS mafia, then lian is probably town for his flip flop I am not of the mental capacity to think so I'm just gonna sheep you | ||
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On February 16 2015 10:31 liancourt wrote: I almost forgot FF was my scumread. Hard to keep track of scumreads as scum it's ok | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:07 Blazinghand wrote: FECALFEAST whatever you do, don't vote me or Town Pupp (aka Eden). We are both basically modconfirmed town due to mod shennigans. However, this is last-minute which means that there's substantial wagons on both of us (not much on TP any more) and we need to not be lynched since we are PRs. liancourt is probably the wagon of choice here. No i saw I was just m aking sure | ||
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##vote liancourt That's what you get for calling me scum | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:13 Superbia wrote: Lmfao. My first instinct said you were mafai. I kind of flipped on you? But my instinct reads have usually been correct. I'll save you for final 3, though I doubt I'll live to see the day. :D Save me for final three with nightkills maybe what're your townreads mr 7scum list | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:21 liancourt wrote: why are ppl voting me? it just looks like they are sheeping BH for no reason ![]() | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:26 Superbia wrote: Can someone link me to rso's scum game? it's not in the database and that's as far as I'm gonna go | ||
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On February 16 2015 04:30 LightningStrike wrote: I think he only RNG's his lynches as town lol...... On February 16 2015 05:40 LightningStrike wrote: Okay with Eden counterclaiming BH's claim I think BH might be Mafia now. ##Unvote ##Vote: Blazinghand which is weird because earlier he asked about eden. On February 15 2015 11:34 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin what you think of Eden? Also I starting to like ritoky this game ![]() maybe I'm misinterpreting this but I usually like to ask people about people I'm scumleaning or undecided on. Why would he side with his undecided/unsure read when he already called BH town? | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:45 liancourt wrote: FF is scum but I'm not gonna get enough votes so I'm pusshing BH who is just obvious scum to me. You're bad. Sorry super this guy dies | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:48 liancourt wrote: what does this tell you this is my very first post Literally means nothing to me and I'm not googling it. Explain this fully | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:52 Fecalfeast wrote: 2 JKs and a cop?!!?! SOMEONE IS LYING HERE | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:54 Blazinghand wrote: yeah also this. 2 JKs is a lot, but 2 JKs AND A cop is super unlikely, and I think 2 JKs is what's going on here, what with the mod coming in and telling us there are 2 JKs. Keep milking the mod thing and I'm gonna get upset | ||
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On February 16 2015 13:59 liancourt wrote: i'm miller so there ![]() lol gg scum | ||
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On February 16 2015 23:09 KelsierSC wrote: LS I'm just going through your filter and I was hoping you could clarify some things for me. Essentially you are pretty happy to jump onto the BH vote quite early on, as indicated I believe this is what the mafia would do. You make a few comments like this So you are disagreeing with Eden on a read here. Then you ask rsoultin, who I believe you had as town, for their opinion on Eden. I don't know if you followed up on this. My impression is you are unsure of Eden and have a slight scum lean on him. Perhaps I am incorrect. However around the counter claim this is your post Why are you so sure that Eden is the real JK at this point? Also I don't really see you calling BH mafia at any point before this so you seem rather unconcerned by this eden claim. I'm not caught up (pg 82) but I have made a post almost exactly like this one already. | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey FecalFeast why did i bus my whole team on D1? You're a madman. A MADMAN I SAY | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i go through all of your games and see you even once thinking of anything like that as town in any game can we lynch you? I can't even remember what I had for dinner two nights ago, I have no idea if I've made scumteams D1 before but I bet they were wrong as fuck either way | ||
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On February 17 2015 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: what did the hosts say about 2jk's doccing each other? i read it but forgot. mod said that the flavour of the game had something important to do with the current situation. Superbia looked it up and found that the name of the JK role in this setup is actually a pair of twins, leading us to believe there are 2 jks | ||
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On February 17 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote: How is that part scummy? I was super serious about how long I been townreading Palmar o.o I know why it's scummy! | ||
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I should clarify, I am 99% sure I know why robik thinks that is scummy. I will wait for robik in case he has some super secret plan | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:40 IAmRobik wrote: I wonder if the person who said they know why i scumread LS actually knows....although it should be pretty fucking obvious I do | ||
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On February 17 2015 10:43 rsoultin wrote: Lol, a lurking FF Hey Rayn, what makes VA town? His filter is sparse as shit. I've been out all day and just caught up | ||
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On February 17 2015 14:08 Alakaslam wrote: Wtf deadline How long ago We're on the same page as the day post, man. Really? | ||
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On February 17 2015 14:12 LightningStrike wrote: Okay my last post before going to bed: The SK prob was scum reading KSC and thought he was Mafia so he killed him hoping to kill Mafia but instead KSC was town. Going to bed for reals now. Thanks for clearing that up sk | ||
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On February 17 2015 16:30 ritoky wrote: it is past night 1 and you haven't started screaming at me as being mafia, does this mean I am your top town? Of course it does. I don't see any other exlaination | ||
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On February 17 2015 16:34 ritoky wrote: I am also half Italian. cooking without wine and replacing olive oil with canola/vegetable/peanut oil is considered mortal sin by half of my family. my great grandma (rest in peace) thought I was born with devil blood inside me because I couldn't have wine. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Working on it? Slowly. Am I mafia? No, sorry. | ||
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On February 15 2015 01:52 LightningStrike wrote: Superbia done a similar style of opening on Campus when I played my very first game on TL and here was his opening post: This was my response to his op[ening I getting the same type of feeling on him this as I had in Campus but this time I got more experience and not afraid of him now. ##Vote: Superbia This is a really dumb case and I'm not sure I've seen LS actually vote that early ina day before based on just an opening post. Almost looks forced. On February 15 2015 00:04 LightningStrike wrote: Also rayn had you checked out HTS's games when she rolled Mafia? If I can link them to you if you want them since you calling her mafia. This isn't alignment indicative but, lol linking people games of other people without any input. On February 16 2015 23:39 LightningStrike wrote: Eden posting a bunch of gifs and photos is something he never does as Mafia esp with this gif: ![]() Opinions I had asked for this game: Here's a indirect question about this game: I really hate this post. First off, he gives a bogus townread to eden/TP based on gif usage. Second, after he does what KSC asked him, he tacks on an irrelevant quote as if he was looking for posts in his filter to help him look towny On February 16 2015 10:15 LightningStrike wrote: If anyone want me to make a meta case on Slam being Mafia I can for Day 2/3 The way this is worded makes me unhappy. If you already think slam is mafia for meta reasons and have evidence, why not post it? If you don't have meta evidence yet, why are you already saying it'll be a mafia case? BONUS CONSPIRACY THEORY UOTE]On February 17 2015 04:51 LightningStrike wrote: What the fuck 3 jail keepers? o.o[/QUOTE] This reaction looks genuine almost. As in, LS knows alaka isn't mafia and when he claims his first reaction instead of "LOL you are mafia" is "WTF 3 JKs??" as if he was upset about the balance. | ||
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On February 15 2015 13:36 Half the Sky wrote: Looking into some of Rayn's quotes after he questioned me on my reads, there are a few quotes of his that have me scumreading Rayn. I have never played with him so I am disregarding meta. How does he know for a "fact that LS is town"? If he's town, he wouldn't know this for a fact. Next quote: Possible buddying of Palmar? I don't understand as a veteran why he cannot figure out some of these players (other veterans) himself. I have heard in QTs he's a good player (correct me if I'm wrong on this) Now I know BH has been around, I don't know who he means by Robert, and it would appear prplhz has also been around TL a bit. It seems like it could be a way to use an incorrect Palmar read for a potential mafia agenda. I also read further on the post that Rasputin mentioned on the flip-flop. I don't understand why he'd ask Palmar for help on reading someone and then through a single post, he not only is confident enough to agree with someone he previously might have needed help reading but then retracts someone he was willing to work with. Additionally I got a very bad vibe from this as well: Like he's trying to push me when I'd already answered his questions. Looking at the timestamps there were 12 minutes in between I answered his last question and when he said that, so it's not like he missed my questions. It seems like he's trying to reach to call me scum based on this. Is this all HTS says about rayn being scum or am I blind? | ||
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On February 17 2015 17:14 ritoky wrote: idk where I am on you ff....like you might seriously be sk. I don't mind that post. it seems a tad bit shallow for someone you previously thought was mafia and still do. here's my problem with you, the fluctuation in intensity bugs me especially with the up time being deadline time, you usually focus your day 1 town play on finding your lock clear ride or die town buddy (robik the last game I was in with you), and your reads usually have tons of conviction even if they aren't the best/for the right reasons (I know having been on the receiving end of a few). so like....you're not screaming town like you normally do. I suppose maybe I should go look back at the great chitler fiasco for reference's sake tmrw. make me feel your towniness in my loins. I would fucking love to be SK one game but no, I am just bad town. Give me some help on HtS, do any of her reads seem to be based on good foundations or what? Like that rayn post is repetitive and boring | ||
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What am I missing here? | ||
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Day 1 I was scumreading lian before he did the stupid cop claim stuff. I was willing to vote LS (my other scumread) and rsoultin (sheep on eden) Day 2 is today and I have not voted yet I will not bow to you, tyrant | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote: what did I tell you last game ff? Any deviance and you would die Your post reads strange to me. Why won't you just explain the process you used to get from point one to point 2. Is Hts town or scum pushing you What do you mean explain the process? I already did. I'll break it down for you: Read post first time -> "not bad makes sense" Read post while filter diving and break it down into parts -> "Repetitive and boring" HtS commented on picking the easiest targets when she's picking the easiest target in me? (OK maybe VA is an easier target than I am) I honestly don't know if HtS is scum or not. I'd call it a scumlean because she's going after me based solely on my opinions of her posts and a healthy portion of omgus. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:37 Superbia wrote: I was like, Damdred is in this game? What the fuck? Then I noticed Breshke replaced out. Are you SK? I feel like you're SK for some reason | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: FF, can you explain why I read that LS post as scummy? He quite obviously edited the hell out of the middle and left random words in, indicating he's thinking hard about how his post will look | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:42 Superbia wrote: FF are you a PR? I had a PR or mafia read on you for most of the game. and blue hunting tho? | ||
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Why would mafia shoot you? I'm confused I thought it was established that most likely mafia shot TP and sk shot kelly | ||
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Leave out the part where you used google. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:45 Superbia wrote: Blue is the mafia son. But yeah, I had a PR or mafia read on you N1. Which is why I did not want to elaborate on it. Now that it's clear you're not the cop I don't really care that much tbh. I got my usual, sorry. | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:46 Superbia wrote: Mafia has second KP through their special 3 single-use power's role. How are you so certain that kelsier was shot by SK and not by a vigi? I'm not, I just don't see what value you had to be shot for is all | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:49 IAmRobik wrote: ##vote: lightningscum ##vote lightningstrike ALL HAIL KING ROBIK | ||
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On February 18 2015 05:57 Blazinghand wrote: Oh, what do you know, I hosted a game in which he was scum, just a couple months ago. Here's the Scum QT for that game with relevant quotes: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Bn3EpW89kuv >Slam you now working with me as a scum directly XD. I hope that none of us get lynched Day 1. >Okay so for the person to kill should we kill Oatsmaster or Damdred? I think Damdred would be a good kill since it will put some suspicion towards batsnacks and will drive the attention away from us. If you guys got a better idea then post it! >Not trying to be mean or anything if you guys reading that way but it because I a newish player (2nd game of TL Mafia) so take my suggestions with a grain of salt if you have to. >Okay let's kill Damndred Night 1 and figure out who to kill Night 2 >@19 I think Damndred is the best meta kill atm. But Beshke is a decent kill too as he is a pretty decent town player. I sorry for being a noob scum ![]() >Considering the fact they got no Cop but we still can get caught by the Tracker if they happened to visit the right target I think getting someone that can be considered dangerous for us would be suicide. That why I like killing Damndred. Damndred is pretty much null to everyone so if he gets killed maybe the people who he going after would be considered scum and thus allows us to live. >Alakaslam you should start defending yourself now. They voting to lynch you or Dicksmash today as far as I know. >This is what the OP about trackers >Town Tracker >Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to watch. You will learn the names of every player that your target visits during the night. You win with the town. >I assume he means Watcher so if we choose the wrong target to check then we are kind of screwed :| BTW coach how my posting? >My filter looks similar to my last town game though but it mainly because I had defend myself a lot and I not good at scum reading still. My last game filter is here >Anyone here? I thinking that Trfel would be a better kill at the moment. He making a pretty damning case on Damndred so if we kill Trfel all the focus will be on Damndred. What you guys think? >But then again if the tracker happen to be on him then we can found out pretty damn fast : >Can we now celebrate? That was the best 1st full day we could hope for since we are scum since they got no power roles left :D >Hi Hopeless I hope you can help me win this game since meatpudding is being voted on quite heavily today and here the situation in temrs of their power roles: They lost both of them in the first 36 hours :D >meat you should defend yourself you are in danger of getting lynched : >I was defending myself at least until I had to go shopping with my mom. >Oats just figured the game out T_T Should we get rid of him while we can? I need your guys input on this. >The no roleblocking is for meta reasons just to trick people. >I will bite the bullet for you guys if it means we will win. >Kill HTS tonight when I get lynched. GL guys! Seems to me like he really thinks about his scum game and would most likely have a more refined game at this point. Also it seems he has a grasp of kill WIFOM and RB WIFOM. I can see him as scum this game EZ | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:04 Superbia wrote: FF can you compare the two filters of this game and his scum game and then tell me with a straight face he's scum? I dislike meta reads sorry. Unless he has some obvious tell then I'd rather you just pointed it out to me | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:11 Superbia wrote: FF who do you want to kill besides LS? HtS for mostly OMGUS | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:15 LightningStrike wrote: While I was playing Pokemon TCG online ofc Robik and FF decided to vote me -.- Also that was my 2nd game in TL Mafia so ofc I had think a shit ton because my teammates was a lurker and a afk Slam who got replaced............. I tried to carry them because I was being townread for meta reasons by others on Day 1. Day 2 and Day 3 I slipped pretty damn bad tbh with you. FF you just played with me when I was ton in Slytherin am I not acting like I did in that game? For people wanting my filter from that game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike I thought I was scum why are you trying to get me to townread you? | ||
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On February 17 2015 13:48 Damdred wrote: Well baby girl I'm here and I'm town so lets end this omgus on my slot. Obviously I'm a hit behind but I'm going to start out reading some choice filters and sleep. I won't be all the way caught up till tommoeow obviously Step one, diffuse tension on slot. On February 17 2015 13:57 Damdred wrote: I'm disappointed firstly that we didn't push through VA then! 2 jks are interesting though. Rsoultin why is it so important I don't find you in the least bit scummy. I've not even looked at you and have a gut read that rit is scum so far. However your post is strange doesn't mention VA ever again, even after saying On February 17 2015 14:10 Damdred wrote: I'm laying down. But I'll come back with my thoughts on who I've read so far and following up the post with On February 18 2015 03:34 Damdred wrote: I started with Ritoky and have reread him this morning with a clearer head. I have found that his filter is missing some of the insightful things that he would normally make however its not quite as angry and abrasive as his mafia game where he clings to things instead of naturally flowing with the thread and trying to make an impact. He is still missing a good portion of his impact however and a lot of his filter is missing some things I would attribute to him, I really think hes not scum hunting to the best of his ability and is letting the game go on without him, I see him more as an sk than a mafia though currently. I think Rsoultin is scum though I read him this morning. He has some interesting things in his filter but his first or second post to me last night somewhat gave me pause and caused me to look at this game and his other scum games and they look a bit different but he still lacks some of the good follow up and scum hunting I am used to seeing from him it feels just off somehow. I think he has a good shot to be scum. Also read, HTS, BH, LS and I think they look pretty towny. Just finished Palmar and I have no issues with him. Still a bit behind its time consuming checking context on things in filters sometimes yet after he says VA should have been pushed he didn't even mention him? On February 18 2015 02:52 Damdred wrote: HTS you have my sword, the case is pretty good and I've checked the context and it looks pretty good. Good job yes yes he did say he likes HtS' case but when I come back all I get is a lame post that hardly made me think about answering it: On February 18 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote: what did I tell you last game ff? Any deviance and you would die Your post reads strange to me. Why won't you just explain the process you used to get from point one to point 2. Is Hts town or scum pushing you Come on damdred, I know I literally just said I dislike meta reads but you are not this easy on people as town. I'm not saying damdred is definite scum here since he just replaced in and reading this clusterfun of a thread would be difficult but so far he has given 4 townreads without explanation and ignored VA after implying he is scummy. | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote: I am as well will be fun to read. Ritoky how did I arrive at the wrong conclusion and what am I not reading right if I'm wrong? Hi damdred! What is your read on VA? | ||
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2. Meta can be faked. 3. Been asleep and now there's a wagon on me, priorities. 4. MY bad. 5. So my 'easy way out' is to scumread someone who most people are townreading? ok I'm going to flip town, sorry to disappoint you HtS you made such a nice case. | ||
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On February 18 2015 06:38 Damdred wrote: No clue he was rng'd by BH. I can't read vayne and won't try to meta him. RNG Jesus should be followed! If your whole case hinges on me joking with bh about his rng going through you will have a hard time. ![]() | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:15 Alakaslam wrote: I still think HTS case on FF is good, due to Palmar clarification I am town, slam, please hear my plea every time I look at the thread it is a new experience. I often refer to myself as being similar to a goldfish in memory. | ||
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If I flip town, you have to post a screenshot of your role PM (scum QT blocked out, I just want you to be modkilled, not end the game) | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:24 Damdred wrote: FF who is the most interesting person besides Hts I should read and why? Interesting would be scummy rayn since you already townread hts | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:18 IAmRobik wrote: There better be fucking masons in this game the way you're defending this dude, because he's fucking scum. Ritoky's post on me was bad, but I think he genuinely believes he's meta cleared, so that's kinda townie. Rayn's afking again. he better be cop or we're lynching him. He loves to claim maf as maf and see how long he can get away with it and then gloat about it in postgame Breshke is someone who we should strongly consider lynching. From all accounts he single handedly won the previous game as vig. I don't recall any of his posts this game, which is a bad sign for him. breshke is now damdred fyi | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:22 Fecalfeast wrote: HtS can I start making you promise to do stuff if I flip town? If I flip town, you have to post a screenshot of your role PM (scum QT blocked out, I just want you to be modkilled, not end the game) Maybe I should try for one you'll accept. How about when I flip town you have to change your signature to "RIP in peace fecalfeast, the towniest town to ever live" | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:34 IAmRobik wrote: Because he edited his post. Also, doing your own this is scummy. Lastly, no one is doing what i asked. I REALLY REALLY REALLY need that information. It will lead me directly to mafia. You acn call me sherlock holmes. Also, why doesn't anyone want to lynch breshke, who by all accounts, is not townie whatsoever I was correct! Yesss.... | ||
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LS On February 18 2015 05:43 Fecalfeast wrote: He quite obviously edited the hell out of the middle and left random words in, indicating he's thinking hard about how his post will look | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:50 Half the Sky wrote: Robik, my other scumreads are Ritoky, Breshke, Rayn, with a lean on prplhz. So no on my deal? | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:51 rsoultin wrote: EBWOP: More specifically, where you stand on BH right now as opposed to EoD. I think BH is jk still and agree with him on VA. I understand the mod never came in and said explicitly "BH and TP are jailkeepers" but from where I'm standing it's pretty obvious bh is town | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:54 Half the Sky wrote: 1 I'm not scum, so posting PMs with the scum QT isn't going to happen and I'm not going to get myself modkilled. 2 Even if somehow by the infintessimally small chance you are town, you are sure as hell not the towniest town that ever towned. That's why it's a punishment for lynching town, duh. Why would I tell you to write something that's true and agreeable? | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:54 rsoultin wrote: Has that read changed since the hours leading up to EoD? If you have some elaborate trap you're trying to spring just tell me what I did this time. If I ever doubted BH it's because of how cocky/high and mighty he was acting. I currently think he's town and I honestly don't remember exactly how I felt EoD | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:57 Half the Sky wrote: Fecalfeast, you're not town, nor are you convincing you are remotely so the way you are going right now. I'm off to bed, it's already 11pm. And I need to sleep. Good night everyone. Why would I care what scum thinks of me? | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote: It's not an elaborate trap. I'm trying to understand why you seemed so certain that there would be a third JK claim. The obvious townie reason for that is if you didn't believe one of the claimants. Because there were 2 jk claims, a practical mod confirm of there being 2 jks and yet so many people were afk at that point that bh almost died anyway. A third jk claim to throw a wrench into the thread again seemed likely to me. | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:59 Damdred wrote: Ff what makes you say Hts is scum? OMGUS and that's pretty much it lol | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:12 rsoultin wrote: So you were anticipating it...because you thought scum would try to capitalize? Or because you thought that one of the AFK people were a JK? And how does that play into the night phase when Slam claimed? I was initially thinking that with how BH was talking (seriously go look at some of those posts "on my level" is a well used phrase) he thought he had fooled everyone and was gloating. Slam, one of the sfks, claimed and it made my suspicions make sense that there had to be another jk. As of now, though, I can only see BH as JK unless someone is being very sneaky and not ccing | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote: Also rsoultin sheep me on HTS's case on FF please baby girl? If I flip town, promise me you will change your signature to "League of Legends is for noobs, also FecalFeast is the best mafia player ever" for a week. | ||
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##unvote ##vote vayneAuthority | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:44 Blazinghand wrote: You think getting mislynched as town makes you a good mafia player? Nope, I don't even think I'm a good mafia player to begin with | ||
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On February 18 2015 08:45 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think you will flip town maybe SK but still. I will take it but League of Legends isn't just for noobs ![]() ##unvote ##vote fecalfeast | ||
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Bro when I flip he'll change his sig to say LoL is for noobs just vote me | ||
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OK I'm done being a baby, then. ##unvote I actually thought about it after and realized that I would be mad scumreading myself for martyring anyway. Don't think the irony is lost on me either, rso | ||
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On February 18 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Meh... we should lynch prplhz as noone wants to kill hts anyways. That one is on you guys this game because she is mafia. I would kill her just for trying to get me killed | ||
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On February 19 2015 05:46 Half the Sky wrote: Rayn, keep digging that hole for yourself. I scumread you based on your gameplay from D1. You have given me zero reason for me to change my read on you. In fact the more you post on some of the others, the more convinced you are scum. And once I've formed a read, I use meta to check not only myself but other people who are scumreading you. In fact I only checked your last game in Slytherin largely because of what Damdred said. You showed already once how you tried to misrepresent me and you just keep doing it again. Keep taking me and others out of context, you're doing a fine job of it. OK I'm confused as to what you want in order to have sufficient context in a post. Am I to spoiler three posts before and three posts after each quote I grab from someone's filter to make sure the context is there? | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:14 prplhz wrote: is there really no chance that blazinghand is scum? right now he is pretty much telling SK to shoot palmar, and i have a terrible feeling about this "lets lynch rayn tomorrow, not today". if rayn flips mafia power role we really need to reconsider blazinghand. It's not impossible, mod never specifically said there are 2 jks or that BH is one of them but the way that whole situation played out I imagine there are 2 JKs. Unless BH is a fan of blackadder and took the bet on 2JK being too imbalanced to confirm himself | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:26 Superbia wrote: HtS what you think of FF's alignment now? She just said I'm still mafia bro. Do you think I'm mafia? *puppydog eyes* | ||
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On February 19 2015 06:26 prplhz wrote: any particular reason everybody is ignoring everything i say? What are you saying? | ||
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On February 19 2015 08:01 Blazinghand wrote: "I made it up, but here's another made-up number" Exactly this | ||
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On February 19 2015 08:24 LightningStrike wrote: Okay Rayn if you were really the cop why you didn't tell us that you had a red check on Palmar? Because unless he's under pressure (ala now) or a likely nk why not get more checks? | ||
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I would be so hype to be SK ritoky so that argument doesn't scare me. | ||
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On February 19 2015 08:37 ritoky wrote: well if you're not SK then I had you as a role, but 4 roles have been claimed and that seems the likely number for town to have. if you are a role, then that pretty much guarantees 1 of BH/rayn is mafia. since superbia's claim is the most believable to me. I am VT, sorry for not living up to your standards | ||
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##vote rain pelican eat | ||
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On February 19 2015 09:06 Blazinghand wrote: so rayn's deffo scum since he fakeclaimed cop right ##unvote ##vote rayn though if he flips town he wouldn't be the first townie to fakeclaim cop while being lynched *cough* liancourt *cough* | ||
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On February 19 2015 13:01 Alakaslam wrote: So anyhow. What's the plan should rayn flip town? Do we actually want to lynch palmar? I don't recommend it. I mean, if he flips cop we lynch palmar but no I don't think we lynch palmar if rayn is just vt | ||
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Really fast or Really slow | ||
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On February 19 2015 13:10 Half the Sky wrote: Unlikely, he claimed a red-check on Palmar and had Palmar as a maybe on his scumlist beforehand. And as I see Superbia commented, his gameplay is not remotely town let alone a blue role. Also I don't think 2x JK plus vet and cop with 2 millers is balanced. But I'll let that for BH to sort that out. well since the rain pelican is probably not a cop, why are you adding it to the balance concerns? | ||
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On February 19 2015 13:56 Blazinghand wrote: ok what's the scummiest thing I can say here. "I am a huge fan of blackadder and knew percy percy was two people but played dumb about it" | ||
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##unvote ##vote blazinghand | ||
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##vote raynpelikoneet jk | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:00 Half the Sky wrote: 5am......*drumroll* ![]() 9pm on the 18th you mean | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:05 Half the Sky wrote: I don't even......I am at such a loss for words now. I mean, I was wrong on rayn too but now BOTH your big-ass cases are on town... That must suck | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:07 IAmRobik wrote: HTS. Please make a case against me. I'm waiting. It should start with "robik is mafia for TRing Rayn and kelsier who people thought were scummy so he has TMI" I bet we make a good mafia team for HtS I'm sheeping you forever now, btw | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:35 Half the Sky wrote: Alright, well lemme think this over. Those of you in the States, good night. <3 NO LOVE FOR CANADA WE DIDN'T EVEN START A WAR TO LEAVE AND WE WAITED TIL THE 60s | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:47 rsoultin wrote: It's kind of ingenious actually if that was orchestrated. Between that and saying that both he and TP were probably the JK and he was just going to martyr, then this incessant push on VA irregardless of anything and everything else going on in the thread. Stroke it any harder and he might prematurely claim mafia all over the place | ||
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On February 19 2015 14:58 IAmRobik wrote: That's what I said. Why are you asking redundant questions? I literally just said it on this page. Am I lying about my scum reads? I can't read | ||
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On February 20 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote: MYLO scumteams by player (number in parenthesis is the page number they called out that given scumteam) HTS (155) Ritoky, FF, Blazinghand, prphlz 5th: Robik or someone from my tinfoil category On February 20 2015 04:07 Half the Sky wrote: Dear Prince Ludwig the Indestructible, Please shoot into any of the following Frenchmen tonight: Ritoky, prplhz or Blazinghand. Your English Sympathiser, HTS So you're willing to honestly and truly assert that sentinel is a huge wiener? If he never said anything at all about the jk claim situation and BH is scum, we would have lynched scum whether we lynched TP first or not. Sentinel would have caused us to move our wagon off scum and on to town D1. You are willing to believe that? | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:55 VayneAuthority wrote: well from everyone's point of view that thinks you have borderline autism, none of those things have helped find mafia given that im town. ![]() | ||
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On February 20 2015 08:59 ritoky wrote: still kinda interested in this. she told you this where? cuz I just went through her filter and the only thing that even comes close to her saying what you said was directed at palmar. in fact she has rarely directly spoken to you at all in the thread. so where did she tell you? cuz if it was a private thing, it was either against the rules or in a qt. ![]() | ||
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On February 20 2015 10:02 IAmRobik wrote: wtf. if ls is mafia, i called that shit like 100 pages ago you twits. start fucking listening to me. we would have lynched ls yesterday if rayn didn't fucking claim cop like a dumbass AND EVEN KNOWING HE WASN'T THE COP I DIDN'T SUSPECT THAT HE WAS MAFIA I know I'm bad and all but I've been on the LS train all game | ||
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On February 20 2015 10:47 rsoultin wrote: I see LS' post as missing a comma xP and y'all as either opportunistic scum or bumbling idiots Who is scum? | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:05 Damdred wrote: Evening guys, sadly a tree fell into my house and its been hellish getting things cleaned up. I have a bit to catch up on. Anything anyone wants me to focus directly on while I'm on a catch up spree This is one of my biggest fears during wind storms is everyone ok? | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:06 rsoultin wrote: If you would kindly look at LS' post and inform me if it really looks like he slipped that he and HTS like to shoot the breeze about ritoky in their scum QT, that would be awesome, Damdred. These people are high -_- What's your point? | ||
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On February 20 2015 11:31 LightningStrike wrote: I will admit my formatting is kind of bad and I got to ritoky on POE Damdred if you look in my big ass post in my filter. BTW Serial Killer just kill me please? I will give Tacos and BBQ if you do! Please don't martyr. I know being pushed sucks but can you tell me what you think of rso's defense of you? | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:14 Superbia wrote: Just had a EDH game of 3 1/2 hours. Jesus christ. ........................................................... You play EDH, as in you don't call it commander, and I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT? | ||
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"Ok turn 1, I'll play a plains, sol ring, lightning greaves, mox opal, tap the mox opal for white and play serra ascendant, attach the greaves and swing for 30" in your nightmares like me? | ||
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How about that mafia game, though? | ||
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Deadline is almost exactly one dopesmoker away. See you all in a few minutes | ||
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On February 20 2015 12:45 rsoultin wrote: Okay, so I'm dropping my tinfoil hat theory; there's just no reason for even a half-assed mod intervention to prevent scum from being lynched lol. @FF, reads list from towniest to scummiest: Blazinghand - Obv reasons, but he really did have a lot more input than I remembered after going back through his relatively lengthy filter. I even like that he's gotten off his KILL VA bandwagon, if for what I consider to be a pretty stupid case. Palmar - Sheer activity. The last time I saw a Palmar this invested, he was town, and I don't think he would have approached the Rayn lynch the way he did if he knew that Rayn was town. lightningstrike - I'm like an oracle when it comes to reading LS. Just accept it. And if you can't; just look at the games we've played together. There's an unfettered feel to how he's playing (and it's flat-out bullshit to say that he ever does meta cases/reads correctly...he often doesn't compare all the games available or give examples, though I wish he would if he's going to use meta) Half the Sky - Her cases may have been wrong, but the sheer amount of effort put into them, and the conviction with which she fought for them, makes me think it's coming from a townie source. My reservations are that she seems more aggressive than I remember, and I didn't like most of her early posting at all. In fact, most of her posts other than her cases are kinda meh for me. The cases/pushes win out, though. Superbia - Some good posting, but minimal. The vet claim strengthens the townlean almost to the point where I'd be confident to call him town. Yet I keep thinking back to Protoss where he was a town leader and we helped each other after Palmar was shot, and I'm not seeing that here. With all the towncred he's gained from that one google search and now a claim, he should be right in the mix, giving reads and giving townies someone to talk to they can be fairly confident of. Also not really buying BH's claim that only he is clever enough for a play like this xP Breshke/Damdred Waffling on Damdred. He came in strong with that case, but Breshke was basically a non-entity with almost nothing but townreads. I'm also not seeing a lot of that in-depth analysis that makes me go yay, town Damdred! To be fair, though, I have a habit of expecting too much from Damdred and just calling him scum whenever he seems to be doing illogical things. Another eureka moment half as good as that Eden case in Linux would have him skyrocketing into my firm town section. Alakaslam - I keep fluctuating on him. Sometimes the happiness seems like it could be town slam, but he's been swinging a lot between very "lucid" posts and completely worthless ones. He keeps saying he's finding towns, but I have yet to see those conclusions except for the one time he was asked who the towniest town was. Fecalfeast - Still like some of his posting. Just not getting a strong town vibe from him. He seems to have suddenly gotten more interested in scumhunting tonight, and my paranoid mind is whispering...SK? If he's not the SK, though, I don't really think he's mafia. IAmRobik - Disclaimer: Kind of hate how he plays and part of this is probably OMGUS. But seriously, if you're trying to call SK shots, unless I'm his biggest scumread ever, suggesting to shoot me is so anti-town it's ridiculous. The last thing town needs right now is another town flip, and he should realize that. The obvious play is to take out a player everyone is generally scumreading, because even if they're town, that's one less person to mislynch tomorrow. I'm not calling him straight-up mafia just because his reads have been pretty good this game, and I know he's a good enough player that this doesn't necessarily mean he already knows everyone's alignment. VayneAuthority - The AFK wonder of the group. Meta-reads aside, it's coming up on end of N2 and the lurking has crossed from inactive to flat-out scummy. ritoky - His filter was just straight-up unimpressive. Add in all the little I'm not scum, I'm not scum, see my town tell? posts and it's even worse. Obviously if he knows his town tell so well (and I'll admit I have no clue what that actually is) he can emulate it as scum. The "LS is mafia cause this is so a secret OBS QT convo" case is so shit tier that he deserves to be lynched with fire. prplhz - Gonna come straight out and call him the "gimme scum" of the bunch. Most people I have little doubts about here or there, but prplhz does the quadruple whammy of: shit!entrance, no real scumhunting, general inactivity, and returning to the thread just to ask for updates or whine at the people scumreading him for their reasons. Like, there doesn't even need to be a case against this guy, it's so open and shut. The three bottom I'd lynch (or be happy to see shot) in a second. This game is way too easy (though I wouldn't complain!) if I'm right on Robik and FF, too, though. I'd guess the other two are in my null/null-leaning-scum reads. The null-leaning-town reads I'd need to see a good case for to lynch tomorrow. So I'm to assume the red-coloured people (BH+super) are at the top because of the host stuff but are scummy to you anyway? Regarding damdred and slam, what has slam done to make him more towny than, say, robik? Same sorta goes with damdred, though I understand nulling him until he does something impressive, what has he done so far to make him higher on the list than, oh I don't know, me? | ||
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THE SMOKE TOWARD THE RIFF FILLED LAND | ||
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I actually had robik as SK Mafia trying for the wifomiest wifom play leaving BH alive? I still can't wrap my head around why sent would bother saying anything. | ||
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On February 20 2015 15:53 Fecalfeast wrote: prplhz, rso, palmar I actually had robik as SK Mafia trying for the wifomiest wifom play leaving BH alive? I still can't wrap my head around why sent would bother saying anything. EBWOP: I mean to have LS instead of rso. I just saw this now and am not sure why I typed rso | ||
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On February 21 2015 06:56 LightningStrike wrote: Will try but don't expect the same level of case I did on JAT being Mafia. Setting yourself up for mediocrity is the first step to achieving it | ||
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On February 21 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote: You know what I giving up there is no way in hell I wont get lynched. GG WP I guess ![]() There's still...... 29.75 hours if I'm not mistaken | ||
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On February 21 2015 08:18 LightningStrike wrote: Every time I try to talk it's like I'm talking to a brickwall so what is the point? WHAT IS THE POINT? Helping town! If you don't care about winning then idc, you just said you have reason to believe slam is mafia and that you deduced this from his last scum game's filter. You've already laid the foundation for a case and you give up instead? I don't get it. Yeah, mafia is at times frustrating or stressful or tiring but what I meant when I said you have 29 hours is that you have time to calm down, have a sleep, play a couple games of LoL to clear your head and come back. Giving up now is just. ugh. | ||
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On February 18 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote: Doesn't matter ls I'm used to you answering me back before I have to say something, why you do this to me. Idk if you are bad or not palmar. It doesn't matter if I think someone you tr could be scum that's like dumb the two aren't dirrectly connected. I think you look fine RS said something that tickles me in a bad way. FF tickles me badly right now. Ls bothers me. Shit while finding context for palmar's filter I found this little gem.. I don't think damdred would start scumming LS at this point if they are aligned. It doesn't feel like he's leaving LS for later but actively trying to get him lynched. Looks like he's saving me for later though! | ||
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On February 15 2015 18:33 Palmar wrote: rayn is mafia Here's a recap on what happened. 1. Palmar does a bunch of townie things (one of those included calling rayn scum for the hts stuff) 2. rayn says "palmar is town" 3. Palmar talks about bluehunting 4. Robik says "palmar is top town because of the bluehunting thing" 5. prplhz points out reading op is not very palmar-like 6. rayn retracts his townread on Palmar The problem here is that rayn ignored everything that had caused him to call me town in the first place. He overrode all lhis previous notions based on what basically amounts to nothing. To answer the question about why I remembered it... idk? I just did? I usually have at least one tab open on page 1 for quick access to filters so I do skim the ops quite often through games. But the important part here is that changing people's mind in mafia is extremely hard. I've gone on rants about how it's always the best idea for mafia to shoot whoever is right because the people who are wrong will keep being wrong. Rayn however seems to have no problem dropping a read that I'd imagine would be pretty central to the way he is approaching the game (he puts value into reading "big name" players) because of basically nothing. Like when rayn thinks he has something, he doesn't just drop it. There was some game where he was convinced prplhz was mafia (prplhz was town) and it took marv and I fucking forever to convince him to drop it and sheep marv onto someone... Toad I think? Like if rayn doesn't believe the bluehunting thing makes me town (like robik does) I would expect him to defer to his earlier reads, not just straight up drop his townread on me. ##vote rayn so now that rayn has flipped town this case seems flimsy at best. The conclusion I'm getting here is that rayn dropping his townread on palmar is scummy. Palmar goes on later to say On February 15 2015 19:38 Palmar wrote: And I want to reiterate, while not quite marv level, rayn should at this point at least be heavily leaning town on me. Like you're assuming he has no read on me when that almost cannot be true. Go read the interaction between robik and rayn regarding hts, and then between me and rayn when I call him out about it and he ends up calling me town. tinfoil hat even says that rayn may have wanted to shut me down looking into him by trying to get me to work with him based on a "yolo-read". Another post where his main suspicion of rayn is that he's not town reading palmar. Since we know rayn was town and palmar admits rayn can read him fairly well, this seems fishy to me. On February 17 2015 08:58 Palmar wrote: Okay, I wanted to be less lazy and do some more tonight, but this is what you get. I mostly want this posted because i'll be super mad at myself if I don't post this and then get shot. rayn I don't know now. Basically yesterday when I wrote the case on him, part of the case was also to gauge his reaction to it. I sort of thought to myself "if he responds with straight up omgus, he's mafia" and "if he actually recognizes that what I'm saying is true and valid, and just argues why it doesn't apply, he might not be mafia". The fact that he just left the thread made me more sure he's mafia, and he came back today and just pulled an OMGUS. Then he went and posted _exactly_ what I would have expected him to post as town. See the bolded. Now I'm not sure. Maybe he's town? If he keeps lynching townies and keeps not having any influence on the lynch, kill him, but I don't think we lynch him tomorrow. ritoky is mafia. Lynch with fire. Besides being completely uninvested and most of his very short filter being chupazi jokes with slam, he actually did suspect rsoultin at some point for what seemed to be reasons he actually believed, then later he posted both a list post with various players that didn't even include rsoultin and a mafia team that didn't either. It's like he forgot she exists which is strange as he in theory already had a read on her. I know all this because it took me well into the night to realize he was even playing so I read his filter. That's how boring his posts were. Town Puppy and Blazinghand are probably town. Someone pointed out that it fits the flavor for there to be two people and there is literally no reason for mafia to fakeclaim that on day 1 (if one of them is 4real mafia just shuts the fuck up and shoots the other in the night). I haven't really read their posts though. IAmRobik probably town, I've gotten more confident reading him lately and somehow his posts in the last few games have been less awful than before. I liked how he acted regarding the HTS claim and I really like his read on me and calling me top town (pro-tip mafia, just call me top town for free townreads). rsoultin is probably town too. I think her interaction with BH early regarding the RNG lynch was pretty much okay. Also despite getting the idea behind my case on rayn completely wrong, I still think she showed an actual interest in it. Her general vibe is also just sort of bubbly/happy which makes her less likely to be mafia. LightningStrike is a wizard. KelsierSC could be mafia. Looks especially worse if rayn turns out to be actually town because that defense was basically unnecessary. And I guess the main thing isn't really the defense, it's the fact that he could easily not have argued with me about the rayn thing and instead really tried to push his own thing. He seemed fine with getting caught up in that despite having just posted his own case. Alakaslam: who knows I thought prplhz was town yesterday. He made the point about me not reading OPs but didn't seem to really jump to conclusions over it. Howerver I sorta feel like he's disappeared and not been much of a factor in the game since then but still. I actually used to pride myself on being basically a prplhz whisperer because I'd always know his alignment. So maybe I'm just shit. Superbia is a hard read atm. I kinda liked his initial vote on rayn because it basically was a bit of a "I don't care" move, and he definitely doesn't have that kinda flash as mafia from what I have seen. Soooo town maybe slightly? Fecalfeast gave me the attention I crave so much. very slight townread. Half the Sky Breshke VayneAuthority No idea, can't remember anything they've posted. (especially for HTS that might be scummy, because I always tend to figure her out as town quite early, I even wrote about how it's a pretty unique skill of hers). This post, too, is weird to me. The read on me is as if he's trying to avoid reading me which is ok, I guess, I hear I'm annoying to read. LS = a wizard which I assume is a townread? Also a townread on prplhz that he sets up to be able to flip-flop on at any moment. On February 18 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: free townreads for everyone who kills FF! ![]() Damdred stuff On February 18 2015 06:59 Palmar wrote: I don't like people like ff and damdred going after rsou. I think she is pretty clearly town. On February 18 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote: You need to step shit up Damdred. Breshke was not noteworthy and you haven't been either. Why do you scumread a townread of mine, yet think I'm town? On February 18 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote: You think I'm just bad? Now that we know damdred is scum, these posts should make me like palmar more, right? Palmar's filter is all over the place jesus christ On February 18 2015 07:11 Palmar wrote: okay here's the deal damdred. step 1: you deliver a kick-ass case on someone. step 2: I townread you 4lyfe. we good? Another call-out on damdred, and for good reason! Between this post and the next, however, the only "kick-ass case" I can see between these two posts is this: + Show Spoiler [damdred's case] + On February 18 2015 23:38 Damdred wrote: LS you are such an easy read when you do things like this. I can't find a reason that Rayn is town currently, I read his filter last night and this morning to try to get a fresh perspective. There are a couple of red flags in his filter that pop up to me that make me uneasy and make me think that he could potentially be mafia. If you look at his filter you will find that he is not going about this game in the same way that he has in his past games as town. There is very little scum hunting to the extent that I am used to. Usually he sees something scummy and pushes it and the person until they either crack and gets them lynched or yells and screams and gets his person lynched. This is missing this game, look at slytern mafia which is his closest town game in which he had similar time restraints. He pushed his scum reads extremely hard and got his lynched day one and then pressed Sl until he cracked d2 and got him lynched. I don't see the same tenaciousness here. Hes lacking the real drive and impact in the game, hes a behind the scenes type guy in this game. He seems to have several scum reads in the game but drops them pretty quickly. He lacks his normal tunnel on people, for example he calls Palmar mafia at one point for a case on him but never revisits it to my eyes. He doesn't really push any of his scum reads and he is really lurky and back of the bus for Rayn. I think this guy is scum. On February 19 2015 00:08 Palmar wrote: Still there is something off this game. Here's my original list of mafia-like people. raynpelikoneet ritoky VayneAuthority Alakaslam prplhz Fecalfeast I now actually think HTS and Damdred don't really belong on the list. Which leaves only 6 people. Even if we accept that I miss like 1-2 people that means there are 4-5 mafia in this list, and half of them have been busing each other if they are. rayn and prplhz are trying to kill each other, I think ritoky wants to kill FF etc. And I don't even think slam is that scummy at all. So I've definitely given at least 1 mafia a town pass. Yet he's now off the scumlist, also note that although he says "I don't think slam is that scummy at all" he still makes the shitlist instead of damdred. On February 19 2015 04:31 Palmar wrote: If we get this right, team Palmar/Damdred is officially a thing. Farther down the line we start to get into buddy-buddy territory yet the only thing noteworthy from damdred the ENTIRE game is his half-assed case on rayn. On February 19 2015 06:09 Palmar wrote: Like I have no problem with rayn calling prplhz mafia, if he wanted to go for someone on his wagon. Like even if rayn flips town I'm never going to lynch damdred because of this push. So palmar is dead-set on damdred being town. After the day post all palmar has to say about damdred is On February 20 2015 16:39 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ I can't read replacements worth shit. Is this just a personal pride thing? I would imagine at least a 'nice scum game damdred you fooled me' or something. I guess if he had said that it would be an obvious lie, though. Palmar goes on the scummy list for me. | ||
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Also slam I agree that the current trend of insulting people on the internet is disturbing, though I guess I can't really talk since I grew up in the "that's gay" generation. RSO, yeah I am a baddy when it comes to formatting (ironic that the comment on his filter being all over the place is the one out of place) but you don't see how palmar basically set damdred up for a townread and just kinda accepted the first 'case' damdred made? | ||
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On February 21 2015 14:36 rsoultin wrote: I apologize, VA. You're right. prplhz actually was voting Breshke at a time where he could have easily become the main wagon, because TP hadn't CCd BH yet. Dumb move for scum. Well, now back to the question of whether or not we should be looking for the SK in particular. He could shoot scum, but if he shoots town we're in trouble. Is this making sense to anyone else, or am I just sleep-deprived? If we look specifically for the SK and lynch town today we are basically handing mafia the game. In 4/3/1 an SK lynch wins for mafia and since mafia only needs 2 townies on the wagon where town needs all 4 or 3+SK on a mafia wagon to get majority. Basically if the SK doesn't shoot mafia they are in the worst position I can imagine | ||
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On February 21 2015 14:42 rsoultin wrote: That's a very good point, ritoky, especially if Palmar was so quick to sheep it that he couldn't have verified it first. Which means checking timestamps. Still need to double-check how good the case is...I only skimmed it, noted it was meta, and voted rayn later for other reasons lol so I didn't do that legwork Day 2. @ritoky, I'll hit your case on LS in the morning, or after work at latest. Still curious about what all goes into your voting analysis though ^^ that wasn't a joke. Bed now, unless anyone still wants to talk to me? The case is in spoilers in my palmar post. I am not ritoky | ||
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On February 21 2015 14:50 Alakaslam wrote: See FF your govt has a lot of oil that we are buying. (My boss is a Canadian). That helps a lot, a lot of folks claim that you pay a bunch of extra taxes but that just isn't true, we pay less but not much less. Now, we could also be exporting oil, but we 1: use way too much 2: won't drill offshore which is where most of ours is 3: won't drill anywhere that might hurt any particular ecosystem 4: won't let our government do the drilling; they are not allowed to own a corporation, supposedly, and besides it would be a hilarious sort of oxymoron as the current environmentalist party is also the current government expansion party. I pay a monthly fee based on my income that gets me a free doctor visit per day as well as emergency/life saving care if I'm not mistaken. I also am aware that the average wait time in a BC emergency room is sometimes 10 hours. Take the good with the bad I guess. Kidney transplant here may be cheap but you'll be on a waiting list longer than your life expectancy. | ||
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On February 21 2015 14:46 rsoultin wrote: I am now calling you ritoky, FF lol >< clearly I need sleep. is it alright if I revisit your work tomorrow? lol I'm not your boss do what you want | ||
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On February 22 2015 08:20 Blazinghand wrote: BTW I generally like the Palmar case (not sure if I mentioned this) but he's not close to being on my list lynch today It's cool, I'm not pushing a plamar train. You told me to look at him and I did | ||
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Sorry you had to roll scum LS | ||
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Now there is Mafia in my eyes in ritoky, VayneAuthority, IAmRobik,, Alakaslam, prplhz so this could be very well the entire anti town for me Ritoky although he looked better than his last mafia games I seen him play (Carol which I played and Imperial I shadowed) but he seem to still have some of his mafia traits in him but not as much as that time and give there been time since these two games happened he could of worked on his Mafia play. VA he being absolutely useless this game and even more useless than in NYE Party mafia which I played with him so I think he could mafia on that alone. For readability | ||
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On February 22 2015 08:39 LightningStrike wrote: Why would Mafia claim Miller so early in the game without pressure? Also she saw Marv claim Miller to counter claim Eden's Miller claim in Horns of Africa I not doubting that where she got the idea to claim Miller so early. Well, you're reading her town for it, aren't you? | ||
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So there is a reason to do it. If HtS is mafia and made that play it was successful because you fell for it. | ||
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On February 22 2015 08:43 ritoky wrote: just don't kill me tonight FF, still pretty sure ur SK.....your positivity rly bugs me, you lack to doom and gloom of a near lylo townie FF. WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I'M THE SK? | ||
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On February 22 2015 09:05 Alakaslam wrote: Well, you picked buzzy HTS is still trigger You still can't see Palmar's eyes Blazinghand continues to lead the town I'm not dead Neither am I dead That basically leaves the goofus Nobody picked him So come on im right here | ||
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##unvote ##vote prplhz | ||
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##vote prplhz I imagine bbcode matters | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:42 Half the Sky wrote: Of the people townreading Kelsier D1....off the cuff, I might honestly have been the only one TRing Kelsier and I did that based on meta. But I think there might have been one other person. I need to check into that as well. Also the "stats" on replacements - there were two comments on that I think Robik was one of them....hold on. I asked for verification and i think bh or palmar said if it was true they liked it | ||
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SK can eat bullets in the same way superbia ate a bullet you didn't look at that in context | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:48 rsoultin wrote: FF...lol, this makes me want to call TMI on you so bad right now >< Well it would have been the better play on SKs part but if that's all you have to call me SK you're going to feel silly if I die. | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:49 Superbia wrote: The fact that there is no cop in this game would mean the SK is bulletproof. SK wouldn't know that | ||
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On February 22 2015 11:52 Superbia wrote: I agree that it seems rather TMI. It's just a added note for now. The SK is bulletproof for sure. Would SK!Palmar flip-flop his reads on Damdred to leave no trail for his shot? How do you know the SK is bulletproof mr."I got shot"? | ||
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On February 22 2015 12:02 Superbia wrote: Actually Palmar is never the SK. He was JKed N1. 3 KP was present. Which has been discussed two times before this? I think so. I know palmar mentioned it and so did I | ||
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##unvote ##vote lightning strike | ||
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##vote palmar | ||
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##vote palmar | ||
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On February 22 2015 13:53 Fecalfeast wrote: ##unvote ##vote palmar | ||
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On February 23 2015 07:19 Alakaslam wrote: Hijole Hijole Hi jole Hi joel | ||
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On February 23 2015 15:02 LightningStrike wrote: I need to get modkilled I just got a pm from rsoultin after the flip.................. You should probably pm the mod instead of posting stuff like this in the future | ||
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On February 23 2015 14:17 ritoky wrote: sending this from my....wife's...wow that's weird...phone. I got married today! sorry about my activity. should be better tomorrow. No excuses | ||
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Thanks slamcop, you've done your duty, sir. ![]() I understood your crumbs after you pointed them out, haha. | ||
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##vote prplhz | ||
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On February 24 2015 05:52 LightningStrike wrote: Can you Jail Keep Ritoky and see what happens tonight? What makes you personally think ritoky is SK over others? | ||
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Why does the alignment matter? Mafia wants SK dead just as much as town. On February 24 2015 05:13 prplhz wrote: pls | ||
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On February 24 2015 06:01 LightningStrike wrote: Well the game is simple for me. We got a mafia check on prplhz and Slam is the unCCed Cop and BH is modconfirmed town plus HTS claimed Miller Day 1. I had a meta townread on you so by PoE ritoky is the SK for me ![]() Can't argue with that | ||
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On February 24 2015 09:24 VayneAuthority wrote: i actually thought prphlz was the SK, guess we'll see though Still a distinct possibility. | ||
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I don't mean not interesting like normal I mean not even interesting to me. | ||
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Fall. . .so shall we fall into the nihil? The nothingness that we feel in the arms of the pale In the shadow of the grim companion who walks with us Here is the landscape Here is the sun Here in the balance of the earth Where is the god? Has he fallen and abandoned us? As I'm stalked by the shadow of death's hand The fire in my heart is forged across the land | ||
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we got like that sk guy who like helped us out but isn't really that nice and like sentinel could have totally ruined the game if BH was scum/SK pritty deep rite? | ||
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also grats on the whole wife thing | ||
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On February 26 2015 04:42 Fecalfeast wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A | ||
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On February 26 2015 13:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I made a hard decision and I don't regret it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <3 | ||
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