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Palmar
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Palmar
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On February 15 2015 19:31 KelsierSC wrote: Also palmar what are your thoughts on superbia? I have read very little of his stuff, although I did like him coming in and just casually calling rayn mafia. I reserve the right to change that notion based on actually reading any of his stuff. | ||
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KelsierSC
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On February 15 2015 19:31 Palmar wrote: Yes but he later confirmed in his list post that he actually thinks I'm town. There is literally no reason for rayn to doubt I'm town at this point, the fact that I didn't try to bury him regarding the hts/robik stuff should basically give him such a strong townread on me that there is no reason to doubt it, especially the fact that I may or may not read OPs yeh don't get me wrong I believe that the case from prphlz against you was poor. But again I don't know why rayn was townreading you specifically and your case on him being scum is relying , in part, on him having strong reasons to townread you. It might be the case that rayn had just a "feel" from you but he really liked prplhz case. If that is the truth then your reason to scumread him looks kind of loose. | ||
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Palmar
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On February 15 2015 19:34 KelsierSC wrote: yeh don't get me wrong I believe that the case from prphlz against you was poor. But again I don't know why rayn was townreading you specifically and your case on him being scum is relying , in part, on him having strong reasons to townread you. It might be the case that rayn had just a "feel" from you but he really liked prplhz case. If that is the truth then your reason to scumread him looks kind of loose. Even if that's the case, that would be the second time I misunderstand rayn this game. where there is smoke, there is fire. If I keep getting bad feelings from interactions about him, it's likely there is something to it. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
Go read the interaction between robik and rayn regarding hts, and then between me and rayn when I call him out about it and he ends up calling me town. tinfoil hat even says that rayn may have wanted to shut me down looking into him by trying to get me to work with him based on a "yolo-read". | ||
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Palmar
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But that's also not the main point. The main point is he drops his townread on me which was based on stuff I actually posted and looked really town, based on some random point about whether or not I read OPs. I read OPs just as little when I'm mafia as when I'm town. I'm even inclined to think it's more likely I'd hide behind that as mafia (see how I eventually ended up reading it quite extensively in that pyp game) because it's an easy out. | ||
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KelsierSC
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On February 15 2015 19:38 Palmar wrote: And I want to reiterate, while not quite marv level, rayn should at this point at least be heavily leaning town on me. Like you're assuming he has no read on me when that almost cannot be true. Go read the interaction between robik and rayn regarding hts, and then between me and rayn when I call him out about it and he ends up calling me town. tinfoil hat even says that rayn may have wanted to shut me down looking into him by trying to get me to work with him based on a "yolo-read". I think my problem is that to me it seems your case is based on the assumptions rather than me making the assumption. I just read the filter looking for his reasons to town read you and I don't see any strong ones, I saw rayn calling you town for "semi yolo reasons" To me, it seems you are the ones making assumptions by saying rayn had a strong town read on you when I don't see the evidence for that. | ||
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KelsierSC
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On February 15 2015 19:40 Palmar wrote: when I say assume he has no read, I mean that you think his read on me is way weaker than it should be. But that's also not the main point. The main point is he drops his townread on me which was based on stuff I actually posted and looked really town, based on some random point about whether or not I read OPs. I read OPs just as little when I'm mafia as when I'm town. I'm even inclined to think it's more likely I'd hide behind that as mafia (see how I eventually ended up reading it quite extensively in that pyp game) because it's an easy out. perhaps, I don't know the history between you and rayn so I am just working off the evidence I see in this game. The case regarding the OP's is terrible though. | ||
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Palmar
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On February 14 2015 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: It has to do with the fact we have been in this situation before. You have been mafia (thug life) and town (the game i dont remember -- around october mby). Both times you called me scum for somerhing you werent sure of. On both times i hit you back and it ruined the thread and i still couldn't lynch you. I think you -- as mafia -- would have... idk... been more "unreasonable" because it "wouldn't make you scum". But you were reasonable and actually wanted to work it out instead of getting into two way tunnelfest. Hope you get what i mean. | ||
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Palmar
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On February 15 2015 19:42 KelsierSC wrote: perhaps, I don't know the history between you and rayn so I am just working off the evidence I see in this game. The case regarding the OP's is terrible though. Well if the case regarding the OPs is terrible, why do you think rayn dropped me on his mafia -> town scale for it? So your conclusion is that rayn is just bad and town? | ||
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KelsierSC
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I still don't know if I would qualify that from rayn as having you as "strong" town read, it is possible.it is also possible that HE really believes the case from prplhz against you and if I take it from his perspective then it is believable he can retract a town read on you. I don't really agree with your case palmar sorry | ||
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Palmar
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KelsierSC
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On February 15 2015 19:52 Palmar wrote: Well if the case regarding the OPs is terrible, why do you think rayn dropped me on his mafia -> town scale for it? So your conclusion is that rayn is just bad and town? No I think rayn is a good player. My conclusion is that people have their own metrics for town/scum reading people. I don't know you that well, I think you have been pretty towny so far and so someone calling you mafia for reading an OP looks stupid to me. However maybe rayn knows you better / puts more faith in that meta read , so he can believe that case against you. | ||
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Palmar
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KelsierSC
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On February 15 2015 19:56 Palmar wrote: like the best defense of rayn is that there is a guy in the thread (ksc) who made one giant post with the conclusion that 4 different people might possibly be mafia and then has spent the rest of his efforts randomly defending rayn instead of pushing any of his own ideas. well if you read my post more carefully I give my thought on everything that was significant to me and also give my thoughts on people who I think are town. The next thing that happened after my post, was you making your case on rayn, I don't think it is "random" if I want to discuss your case. I'm sorry that I cared about what you posted I guess. In my post I made a pretty clear case on prplhz and I wanted people to discuss that and we can do so now. Or you can read Superbia more thoroughly and give your case on him. I would also like FF to respond to my question on specifically, why he thinks your case is good. | ||
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LightningStrike
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Palmar
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This is not a meta case. | ||
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