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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#481
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#482
On February 15 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm back. Rasputin, in either case, I thought that was what you were supposed to do if you rolled miller. If not, then well, what's done is done, and you, Rayn, whoever else can call my play bad for all I care.

Also I don't like Robik's post about me because he's not reading and understanding why I'm asking the questions I am, also ironic coming from a player that has said in the townplay discussion thread that he thrives on conversation. Funny that he'll scumread someone else for trying to do the same thing.

As I maintained in Horn of Africa, LS is someone I find it very difficult to read, so he is the type of player I will ask 20-odd questions in trying to figure out his alignment. (Right now, I'm leaning scum on him) If you think you have a better way, suggest it. Ritoky made the assertion that Fecalfeast wasn't comfortable. His behaviour didn't change when I started talking to him, I was looking for that change.


I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#483
First of all:
On February 14 2015 15:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Based on what marvellosity said in Horn (and he was town), you typically want to claim it as soon as you can. Which I did as I was here at game start. Later claims of it by any player are more suspicious (though I realise right now a number haven't entered thread yet). And this is the first time I've RNGed that role, so I am going off that.

This has to be incorrect. It just has to be. marv would never say this, ever!!!!

second:
On February 14 2015 14:41 Half the Sky wrote:
I also understand VA is another player who is cited as a good scum player. Does jack all in his town games (from my experience, NYE Party mafia and Void) D1 but I'm seeing 3 posts so far in his first 20-odd minutes. He actually plays as scum, from what I was told in that Void obs qt....so I'm thinking a tentative scum read on VA based on meta....

Robik/Slam/Ritoky any thoughts on this?

Explain this meta-read. In like every bit of detail you can, from the games you have read him as scum and town and how does it compare to this game.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#484
On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?


Dumb argument lol ^^ It's an RNG scumread. He's making up his reasons, anyway xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:19 GMT
#485
On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?

My thoughts is you are not reading the thread very well and it makes you mafia even more.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:19 GMT
#486
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:19 GMT
#487
On February 15 2015 00:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Honestly not having played with BH before, I'm going to ignore his RNG-stuff, it is my understanding he does this as both alignments. (If this is wrong, someone correct me.) I personally think it's unproductive and anti-town. What I DO want to focus on is this though:

On February 14 2015 15:39 Blazinghand wrote:
Interestingly, it looks like in addition to being objectively correct due to RNG, it is ALSO objectively correct to lynch VA because he has so little content. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477800-vii-titanic-mini-mafia-i-have-a-cunning-plan?user=VayneAuthority

He's clearly here but has not posted enough.


On February 14 2015 15:49 Blazinghand wrote:
On February 14 2015 15:47 Half the Sky wrote:
I had previously scumread him because compared to what he normally posts all of D1, which is jack all, I think in comparison, he was posting too much within the first few bits of the game here, though he's (reasonably) countering that it's because of the weird start time.


Well, objectively I'm choosing to scumread him because he got RNGed. Do you deny that he got RNGed? It was truly random and gives us a 30% chance to lynch scum, which is way better than any other case so far. The real question here is why aren't you voting VA yet


On February 14 2015 15:56 Blazinghand wrote:
Fine, let's say that reason is crap, he still has a 30% chance to flip scum, and RNG has never failed me, even once. Vote him.


Right now, I'm interpreting this as him trying to justify a scumread, and then when I call him on it (particularly since I had the opposite read based on meta at that time) he backtracks and calls it crap. So this to me is scumlike.

Thoughts?


Dumb argument lol ^^ It's an RNG scumread. He's making up his reasons, anyway xP

see this guy is reading the thread.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:20 GMT
#488
HtS may well be trying to use entirely different circumstances from a game she knows more than a few of us played in to justify her instant miller-claim. I have a hard time believing she's so stupid that she didn't understand why he claimed in the game she herself was modding.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:22 GMT
#489
okay rsoultin can go to town pile for that post only.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
February 14 2015 15:22 GMT
#490
Pfffffft

And now you talk about your own irrelevant shit
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:23 GMT
#491
EBWOP: got cut, from the post above i just quoted.
but also the last post is really good.

i 100% agree.
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:23 GMT
#492
On February 15 2015 00:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Rasputin, I'm not talking about the RNG scumread. Read the bolded. Try again.


Lol, wow. Sweetie. Lovely. Dumb one. <3 Why would you think that BH would have legitimate reasons to scumread an RNGd scumread? Or that his illegitimate bastard reasons would make him more scummy than the 30% scummy he objectively is?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:25 GMT
#493
On February 14 2015 18:26 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 17:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Blazinghand, let's be honest:
Are you forging that read on vayne? The one besides rng?


Of course. I don't know the dude's meta at all, but people will probably buy it; people aren't very bright.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:25 GMT
#494
now the question is why is HtS making a bullshit read without reading the thread properly?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 14 2015 15:25 GMT
#495
On February 15 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?


On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?


We're only 40 mins into the game.

I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread.


I explained the same to Breshke. If he can talk about Robik more, it would help me resolve this issue.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 14 2015 15:26 GMT
#496
does anybody know what's going on in this thread
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 14 2015 15:28 GMT
#497
On February 15 2015 00:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
I believe the point was whether or not you were getting anything from your game of 20 questions. So what makes you lean scum on him?


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 14:43 Half the Sky wrote:
On February 14 2015 14:39 Breshke wrote:
HtS what have you actually gotten from all these questions?


We're only 40 mins into the game.

I have some preliminary thoughts right now. I was scumreading LS based on his first few posts on Robik, didn't seem like he wanted to commit one way or another, even though I qualified the read to a single post. He answered though based on his meta. Still noncomittal though. Surely he formed a read when Robik afked in Linux. Seems weird he wouldn't. I'm not liking the answers I get from LS so far, so tentative scumread.


I explained the same to Breshke. If he can talk about Robik more, it would help me resolve this issue.


And it's unusual for LS to not commit because...?

Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:28 GMT
#498
On February 15 2015 00:26 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know what's going on in this thread

i do, do you want a recap or read by yourself?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 14 2015 15:28 GMT
#499
On February 14 2015 23:15 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi purplehaze!
Long time no see. Did you roll town?

no i rolled mafia so please help me with the blue hunting.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Policy lynch miller claims.
Townies do not fear getting copped.

Also blazinghand probably is mafia.

for realsies?

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like what i basically want to do Palmar, is to figure out blazinghand, robert, and wirh your help prplhz. If we can fiure out those players alignments on D1 the game becomes really OP for the town.

why these players?

Are you joking with your Mafia claim?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 14 2015 15:29 GMT
#500
On February 15 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
Speaking of...any opinions on the Breshke entrance? Anyone can answer this.

town
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