Slytherin Mini Mafia

On February 04 2015 09:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
/obs

On February 08 2015 05:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I don't see a cava on playerlist

On February 08 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
also would you kill Keirathi at this point and if so why / if not why?

On February 08 2015 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you have me town and slam town right?

On February 08 2015 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cava has completed the mission "trap on Damdred"" and is now confirmed town.

On February 08 2015 06:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rayn it feels like you're trying to make up reasons to call keir scum.... I guess I don't have enough meta on him? First post silliness is par for the course around here, isn't it?

On February 08 2015 08:21 Keirathi wrote:

ASKLJDLAKJSLKDJALKSJDSL

SL just said that he was voting me for being angry and defensive. It's not about context, it's about the fact that being angry and defensive doesn't make me mafia and people are just making easy votes.

On February 08 2015 10:27 Keirathi wrote:

Why not?

I can't imagine anyone possibly having a (good) reason to think that I'm town right now.

On February 08 2015 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So do you think he is trying to find mafia?
If yes, can you point out the posts where he is doing that said thing.

On February 09 2015 02:34 sicklucker wrote:
where the hell is lonemeow?

On February 09 2015 03:39 Onegu wrote:



You got anything else for us?

On February 09 2015 05:10 liancourt wrote:
my being happy about the 2 wagons make me mafia? ok it's your logic. I know you are prone to be actually more illogical when you're town so you're a townread just for that lol

What do you think of the 2 wagons then?

On February 09 2015 05:15 geript wrote:

How is me getting an aneurism about all these stupid reads that have been thrown out me being ok with those people? How is me having 4 people in the questionable pile but not questioning any of them because there's actually nothing worthwhile asking them in any way scummy? How can you possibly think that me having 4 questionable and 2 scum reads odd? Especially when I've been upfront that my mafia reads may still be wrong. Explain your shit because it's the dumbest or scumest shit in the thread so far. Like you've played long enough and with me enough to know that what you posted is worse than newbie level. Because this is so inane and fucktarded that I can only assume you're mafia.

On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:

This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die.

On February 09 2015 05:48 geript wrote:

Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around.

On February 09 2015 05:53 liancourt wrote:


you need incentive to play someone to slap and whip you around like a....

On February 09 2015 05:56 geript wrote:

I never fault people for thinking about the game differently from me. Never is. You're literally just spewing bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense. These are things that you are reasonable enough to know are bullshit. How does me having 6 people in my "mafia circle" in any way make any sense if I'm mafia? Especially, when I've flat out stated why I can be wrong on multiples. Especially when I've pointed out why I think each of those people are mafia. Especially when I've pointed out why each of those people are questionable? How does me calling every idiot who's made a god awful idiotic read mafia make any sense as any alignment? Like clearly not every idiot can be mafia; clearly not every idiotic read can come from mafia. You're literally voting for someone who according to your filter is forgettable and meh while saying X other person who has too many people and can't think they're all mafia is probably mafia make any sense?

You haven't gotten to a townread on Keir and have just essentially ignored the wagon for godawful and likely made up reasons. You've voted for someone who is lynchbait at best. You're trying to mafia read the most clearly obviously towny motherfucker from his first fucking post for fucking terrible reasons. You know who does that shit? Mafia. Because they don't fucking know how to fucking read anyone because they're not fucking town.

On February 09 2015 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:

I'm afraid that actually reading the game will get me scumread at this point with how bad I was my last few games.

On February 09 2015 07:01 LoneMeow wrote:
Before I forget:



Where are you standing on sicklucker now?

On February 09 2015 07:04 liancourt wrote:


so we have onegu who plays for the scum game

sl who enjoys scum games and plays a weird town meta for it

slam who cant be read by the general population

LS who plays a defensive meta

LM who has entered the thread but has done i have no idea what nor his meta or anything at all

obi who plays lazy as town

geript is barking upo the wrong tree, I would feel better if he was on keira or gob.

oh and ff who actually plays a better scum game than a town game.

Like the only normal ppl around here are damdred and rayn.

The only way I'm feeling at ease is because I trust damdred and rayn to pull through and lynch mafia. I like my stance on sheeping them. Thank god I'm reading them town.

On February 09 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
OWS did you end up looking at what I've posted on gobble at this point?

On February 09 2015 13:11 geript wrote:

I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum?

On February 09 2015 13:14 geript wrote:

Nope. We're lynching you because I'm obviously town and your read literally is the least towny read on anyone in the whole fucking thread. And that's with all the bullshit reads that have been flying around left and right.

On February 09 2015 13:17 Damdred wrote:


And?

On February 10 2015 00:01 LoneMeow wrote:


Why didn't you try to push this point earlier when you were voting him?

On February 10 2015 02:48 geript wrote:

And when they both flip town we'll lynch you and Rayn. It's like the best of both worlds!!!

On February 10 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
I really hate the vote count, I have a town read on everyone on Gobbles and Keirathis wagon though I just hate how mafia can hammer whoever they want...

On February 09 2015 05:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The examples you've provided aren't the same thing I'm talking about either. Both of yours are one-liners that nobody will ever take seriously, and even then, they're in a vacuum: who is pushing them and why? What kinds of players are pushing him?

I'm looking at the game as a whole and seeing if Keirathi's lynch makes sense. It looked like a bunch of people were jumping on him over little based on things that don't really warrant a lynch and I don't want to lynch him. I think it's far more likely that he's town based off of this nonsensical push.

That, and the rest of his filter looks kind of okay. Scumhunting and such.

On February 10 2015 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It is not irrelevant. You literally said "i even went on hard defending him, does that not look like a read to you?"
So did you or did you not have a townread on him at that point?

On February 10 2015 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well you literally made a case on geript in the post where you vote for lian... That was not a good post tbh.

On February 10 2015 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Onegu is town though. There is not a wall of excuses where he was for the last 100 days.

On February 10 2015 04:14 geript wrote:

Yes, please strawman my argument down to "OWS wants 2 people dead which makes him mafia." That's clearly the point I was making. Like that's totally not a complete fucking misrepresentation of every fucking point I've made.

On February 10 2015 04:21 geript wrote:

This is literally all he's fucking doing. OWS is here and not doing anything other than call the push on him stupid and completely misrepresenting the case and points on him and you fuckwits are calling him town. Like seriously people how the fuck do you not want to lynch this guy.

On February 10 2015 04:28 sicklucker wrote:


you dont think rayns town? Ill admit my early read of him trying to solve th eame one makes him town losses some credit when he disappears but thats not uncharacteristic of him to randomly disappear.

On February 10 2015 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

fuckyou. vote for a player you think is most likely to be mafia.
this is another bullshit reason from you.

On February 10 2015 05:03 geript wrote:
Told you!!!! OWS switched to vote with his scumread ME! at end of day after switching to Keir. Like WTF people?????? Like how many fucking times do I have to fucking tell you to fucking lynching fucking scum in OWS??? LIke WTF people.

On February 10 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

don't talk shit.

On February 10 2015 05:12 geript wrote:

So I have a clear reason to vote for Gobble. Keir was obviously town. Gobble was not obviously town. Keir is a good player. There's literally not reason to lynch a good townie instead of a question mark.

OWS was clearly ambivalent as to which wagon to be on.
OWS clearly saw (AND COMMENTED!!!!) that I voted for Gobble.
OWS switched his vote to Keir and then back to Gobble.
OWS is clearly scumreading me.

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT FUCKING MIND AS TOWN SWITCHES TO VOTE FOR THE PERSON WHO THEIR SCUMREAD IS VOTING FOR IN THE LAST FUCKING SECONDS BEFORE A FUCKING LYNCH!!!!

LIKE HOW DID YOU FUCKERS NOT FUCKING REALIZE THAT MY CASE ON OWS WAS THE FUCKING ROCK SOLIDEST AIR TIGHTEST FUCKING LYNCH AROUND.

Instead you baddies lynched Keir instead of fucking listening to me and lynching OWS after I already fucking told you Keir was town. I even fucking explained my fucking read on him. Nobody is even fucking listening to what i'm fucking writing.

On February 10 2015 05:20 liancourt wrote:
how does this make obi mafia? gobs tomorrow

On February 10 2015 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

because he switched to Keirathi, which implies he thinks Keirathi is more likely to be mafia than gobble is.
When he votes, he sees his scumread geript has voted gobble, then he switches back.
makes no fucking sense at all.

On February 10 2015 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


No, I think rayn is obviously town. I'm saying that I read his case on Keirathi and think there's some merit to it.

When you commented on how you think both wagons are okay, I realized that I kind of thought the same thing. There's no way all 3 of these wagons can be prodded forward by mafia anyways. For that to be a possibility requires geript, rayn, and some other crazy possibility to be mafia and I really don't think that's the case.

On February 10 2015 05:26 geript wrote:
If you're mafia and both wagons are town, you don't care which one you end on. It's literally irrelevant. You'd be ambivalent as to which wagon you were on.
Let's check to see if you were ambivalent: DONE!

On February 10 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

you switched back because you thought who you switched to was gonna get lynched anyways?

On February 10 2015 05:37 geript wrote:

Nope. Doesn't in any way. You making a move that makes no sense if you're town and doesn't matter whatsoever if you're mafia is alignment indictive. Would you like to continue to misrepresent my arguments and try and straw man them?

On February 10 2015 05:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:

can you actually say something about this because really, you aren't making any sense here.
don't say "why would i do that as scum", it is not the question. the question is "why would you do that as town", because it doesn't make any sense.

On February 10 2015 05:41 liancourt wrote:
when obi does things that are unexplainable and down right r******** you have to read him town for that.

On February 10 2015 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
omfg can anyone think like this as town?

On February 10 2015 09:20 Damdred wrote:
Like that YouTube post just feels so blah and gloating to me

On February 10 2015 09:45 gobbledydook wrote:
wat the hell was obi thinking when he voted keir
apparently the best reason offered so far about obi being scum is he wouldnt do that vote switch as town, and hes useless?
what about this, i played with him last time in championship belt, he was fucking useless and does weird ass things and we scumread him at lylo and lost? that switching vote thingy can happen often esp when ppl get confused by last-minute switches by other ppl and the ten million reasons why X is or is not mafia that they throw out and expect ppl to understand in five minutes?
i dont think rayns '100% mafia' read is right in fact i think at most its a coinflip on ows here

ls i have a bad timezone and things to do sorry i couldnt be on after that last post i made?

On February 10 2015 10:58 Damdred wrote:


Stop being dumb obi, feeling tone etc. Can catch mafia.

On February 10 2015 11:04 Alakaslam wrote:

It depends on rayn & Geript.

They have vastly different opinions on me, and Rayn's is very strong.

One of them is wrong, and this can shed light on ows from my perspective. However, they both peaced out as soon as I showed up.

Ows is either scum like they say (making a lot of sense atm) or, like on keirathi they are wrong (in that rayn was wrong- now he is sheeping Geript- understandably). But I know rayn was right on me.

This introduces a lot of wifom for me. What if rayn and Geript are varying degrees of right and wrong on stuff and rayn was right on ows before? And Geript is pushing ows for good reasons seemingly but it seemed good with keir too. So ows then may also be town.

And then we get to this wifom: what if rayn is scum? Does that affect things? Of course it does, and Geript would get a townread from me.

Harder for me to see is, what if Geript is scum? Then rayn gets a renewed townread from me, and well I came back to this draft and don't remember what I was saying before I had to leave.

Oh it means he has massive cred & such but that can be seen when we see what people flip & stuff

On February 10 2015 11:19 Alakaslam wrote:

I don't think I would get one for it.

On February 10 2015 12:24 Damdred wrote:


The title of the video was Do nothing and win, luigi of course. That is gloating a bit no matter how you look at it.

Also my case still stands, and your point about why Gobbles post is sorta wifom. Why do mafia hard defend townies for no reason? To get town cred at flips, Who cares if it limits options there might be a brand new wagon tomorrow maybe gobble will try to get LS lynched who knows. Also the post is extremely open ended, it doesnt' call you town it doesn't call you scum it says you are a coin flip. So i'm not really sure how it is limiting itself in that case?

On February 10 2015 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
So OWS what are your reads atm and can you explain to me why your reads are the way there are please?

On February 10 2015 12:44 Damdred wrote:
I know what I think is the scum ream. Also it is either you or gobble so not sure if needing a reason is an issue.

I'm open to people being town, but gobble isn't trying to be town really

On February 10 2015 13:31 liancourt wrote:
Obi wat do u think of how LM is playing?

On February 10 2015 14:38 geript wrote:

So who doesn't want to lynch this guy again?

On February 10 2015 14:15 Onegu wrote:









How the hell does he go from his read procession, he has gobble as uber scummy and keir as scummy, Rayn as uber town and Damdred way up there to and now he has to choose between 2 town? He gives no reason for this.

This guy is scum I have already pointed out the problems with his lian case.

On February 10 2015 14:44 Onegu wrote:



No it has to be the first, why would he be upset about having to choose between 2 town reads to sheep?

On February 11 2015 01:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of SL's votes look like he's just trying not to get modkilled. He came back and took a stance when he was back in the thread.

What's the problem?

On February 11 2015 04:02 sicklucker wrote:


I tried to hammer. I would have if you guys didnt go rapid change on your votes.

On February 11 2015 10:51 Onegu wrote:
Alright I'm here. Guess I'm off FF for the time being. Can see as OWS, LS, or Slam lynch today.

On February 11 2015 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Conspiracy theory: Sicklucker said I might be scum or a role. The decision to RB me seems stupid to me but since SL was reading me blue I can see him suggesting me for RB

On February 11 2015 12:43 gobbledydook wrote:


???
ITT: long sentence of a meta read on fecalfeast whos pretty obviously town just based on the rb and lack of counterclaim, ie pretty useless filler

On February 11 2015 13:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Pah! Be not silent!

On February 11 2015 14:09 Alakaslam wrote:

Wait what happneed

On February 11 2015 15:25 gobbledydook wrote:
oh and since i was asked for a list post

rayn is either town, or playing scum so well that i couldnt figure it out in ten years
geripts been hard tunneled on ows since day 1 and the case is good and committal
dont think geript can be scum, if hes scum then ows is 100% town and when ows flips town geripts in a really bad place when he could have avoided that easily
onegus town
ff is unlikely to be mafia coz of rb claim as i said. scumff would involve scum rb+killing lian, which cant be proven wrong but occams razor suggests the most obvious answer of townff getting rbed being correct. hes made some posts that turn out a bit weird but its a far cry from suggesting the scumff theory is the correct one.
ows i said was a coinflip based on the weird vote switching. he looks reasonable after n1, except where he just dismisses liancourt and ls as town without further explanation. i could see ows+ls scumteam here, ls isnt 'obviously town' even if u disagree with him being outright scum
damdred is town hero hes #1
lonemeow is really lurky, and could be the 3rd scum
sl is, idk a bit weird the way he posts, seems floaty, i dont think his case on me is convincing at all, or any case for that matter. if lonemeow isnt the scum then sl probably is
slam is unreadable and he does whatever he wants
ls my #1 scumread, ive given reasons go read my filter, and ff/onegu etc are onto something good.

On February 12 2015 12:52 sicklucker wrote:
Apparently everyone who was town reading me is voting me now without saying why. I dont even know what to do here can you guys explain your reasons? No one has it makes it pretty frustrating I dont know how to save this game

On February 12 2015 14:01 Onegu wrote:
So I CC SL trackers claim if you didn't notice

On February 12 2015 14:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
So now does this make slam town, mafia or neither? Does slam bus with policy lynch stuff? I imagine not.

On February 12 2015 15:07 gobbledydook wrote:


its not like SL ever had any traction on day 1

On February 12 2015 15:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
oops hit post but that is a good call gobble

On February 13 2015 14:25 Fecalfeast wrote:

Also go frig yourself I can use my roleblock however I want it's 100% confirmed to me that it happened.

On February 13 2015 14:29 Fecalfeast wrote:

I'm not your buddy, guy.

On February 13 2015 15:06 Fecalfeast wrote:

Aww we're friends? :3

On February 14 2015 23:02 LightningStrike wrote:
I;m back and Damdred and OWS still voting me oh and did I tell you that OWS also called me town earlier without explaining his townread on me? Also Gobble decided since my train is getting traction to come back to vote me -.-

On February 15 2015 00:07 LightningStrike wrote:

I know we aren't a mafia team together because I had rolled VT.

On February 15 2015 05:44 LoneMeow wrote:


Because I was not reading who defended you, I was reading what sicklucker was saying before the claims and WIFOM started.

On February 15 2015 05:57 Onegu wrote:
Like sorry LM if your town keep doing what your doing and try to give us as much info as possible, but your flip gives us a bunch of info also about LS, and at the moment you look worse than anyone else. And at this point I can almost see a huge play between you and OWS to bus each other and seperate. But idk

On February 15 2015 06:03 Onegu wrote:



Cuz I'm confirmed town

On February 15 2015 06:31 Damdred wrote:
I've been thinking about it, Mason is a pretty weak power role for town and the other two claimed roles in fence and vet are relatively weak as well. Such as gunsmith not guaranteeing town a kill and vet not necessarily being shot.

It is really conceivable that this is the setup. We need to unvote LM and figure out who in

Gobbly
LS
Geript
OWS
Slam

is the scum.

Thoughts

On February 15 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:

Because he had a scumread on you and activily pushed his case of you being Mafia and never gave up on it till sicklucker claimed Mafia. Rarely do Mafia heavily push thier cases of people being mafia as hard as Geript and Damdred did this game.

On February 16 2015 01:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm on phone what was the context of sls vote on ows?

On February 16 2015 03:24 geript wrote:
LM's filter is awful. And I ran across Seasons of a Witch randomly because of FF or GD where LM was mafia.

On February 16 2015 03:36 geript wrote:
And I have a big peepee and LM is mafia. End of story.

On February 16 2015 03:57 LoneMeow wrote:
ObiWanShinobi, since you're here can you explain why you didn't really do anything about Alakaslam despite seemingly having a very strong scum read on him?

On February 16 2015 04:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


/shrug

Seems okay since SL flipped goon rather than roleblocker, since that was kind of my issue after he started martyring and such.

I took what rayn/damdred said about him into account.

On February 16 2015 04:29 Onegu wrote:



Like what? His votes are all shit if he flips scum. Like he is really the least likely out of the list of people I have that could flip scum to flip scum. Why the fuck would he just park his vote on Geript today as scum and bounce. If he is scum he is the worst fucking scum player ever, save myself day one nah, save myself day 3 nah. Jeez.

Yes LM is scum there is no way there are 4 blues in this game. There isn't. And now daddy is giving me the Hebbie Jeebies now as I cannot for the life of me follow his logic with is reads on this lynch.

On February 16 2015 04:55 Onegu wrote:



You in my lynch later PoE pile.

On February 16 2015 05:10 geript wrote:
It's not an awful time to bus. If you're around, you're pretty much locked into to sheeping onto whoever the consensus target is. The thing is though that I'm kinda at the point that I think the scumteam has been bussing each other all game.

On February 17 2015 00:15 marvellosity wrote:
why was slam lynched/mafia btw? i've not read the game and i'd like to know for future occasions