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On February 09 2015 05:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 05:48 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 09 2015 05:31 geript wrote:On February 08 2015 10:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't feel like your point on his opening post was one I would follow: I just don't see the value in trying to lynch someone for goofing off at the beginning of the game. I feel like he's taking a bunch of unnecessary heat in terms of how people are jumping on him (why aren't you doing anything, how can I townread you if you're not doing anything, etc etc) and I don't really see how that can be held against him.
I think the pressure on Keirathi is somewhat unwarranted. I've been in the same spot as him multiple times and I can see the same kind of thing happening to him right now.
(I'm aware that there are other points against him out there supposedly, but I didn't think highly of them either.) This post is as far from a townread on Keir as anything could be. This is not a townread on Keir and it's the closest you have in your meta. Essentially you're saying, "the reasons for pushing/wagoning him are bad." Some of the reasons are (overly defensive) and some of them aren't (I'm clearly town why aren't you reading me that way vs how could I read you as clearly town). Overall, though, the points against are semi-compelling; there are reasons to townread him for completely separate reasons. You don't get there anywhere in your filter. Looking elsewhere and saying some of the pressure is unwarranted isn't a townread. Bye bye scum. You done fucked up. Now you die. I don't understand the point on my meta. I don't like lynching people for bad reasons and, if the reasons are bad, it makes me believe that the lynch is a bad lynch. How is that not a townread or any other kind of read, for that matter? I don't see how you thinking Keirathi is town should have any impact on my read on you. Bad reasons = bad lynch? WTF? Seriously. Bad reasons are bad reasons. The number of times I've seen mafia lynched for god awful reasons I can't even remember. Like, "oh X person clearly just told his mafia teammates to bus him so let's lynch him." No. "X person didn't post within the first 5 minutes of a game (when X person was clearly asleep). Let's lynch them." No. Just like bad reasons don't make someone mafia, they don't make someone town. Like that's complete bullshit. Please continue to lie and bullshit around. I don't think about the game the same way you do.
I never fault people for thinking about the game differently from me. Never is. You're literally just spewing bullshit that makes absolutely zero sense. These are things that you are reasonable enough to know are bullshit. How does me having 6 people in my "mafia circle" in any way make any sense if I'm mafia? Especially, when I've flat out stated why I can be wrong on multiples. Especially when I've pointed out why I think each of those people are mafia. Especially when I've pointed out why each of those people are questionable? How does me calling every idiot who's made a god awful idiotic read mafia make any sense as any alignment? Like clearly not every idiot can be mafia; clearly not every idiotic read can come from mafia. You're literally voting for someone who according to your filter is forgettable and meh while saying X other person who has too many people and can't think they're all mafia is probably mafia make any sense?
You haven't gotten to a townread on Keir and have just essentially ignored the wagon for godawful and likely made up reasons. You've voted for someone who is lynchbait at best. You're trying to mafia read the most clearly obviously towny motherfucker from his first fucking post for fucking terrible reasons. You know who does that shit? Mafia. Because they don't fucking know how to fucking read anyone because they're not fucking town.
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On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points.
So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you.
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On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all.
Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine.
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On February 09 2015 13:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Did gd really call me useless?
Gd did you actually read my filter or what? I've given reads on a large number of players but apparently you haven't put any stock into that at all. How do you not have a read on me?
If the shoe fits...
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On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all. Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine. Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way. Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting. However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.
I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum?
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On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all. Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine. Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way. Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting. However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all.
Also, I've meta'd you a number of times. You do post less as mafia generally. My point was that when I called you mafia before it had nothing to do with the fact that you were practically MIA. Like it's still a really good point I made which I have since forgotten. Like if you're town you're being really bad by ignoring my good points and calling me mafia for completely fucking terrible "reasons."
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On February 09 2015 13:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:11 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all. Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine. Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way. Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting. However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all. I haven't dropped Obi. We're fucking lynching his ass. Like I also haven't dropped some of the earlier stuff, but the threads been pretty dead and when it's not it's been pretty worthless. Like there really isn't much more to say since I was in this after noon. Like Obi's read on me plus his non-read on Keir plus his complete batshit crazy but not really batshit cray cray is amazeballs scummy. How do you not get that? Like he literally glosses over great points that he should agree with and support, two things which he doesn't do in any way, to focus on the most peripheral bullshit ever. Like it's completely hilarious. Why don't you want to lynch the fuck out of OWScum? So you want to lynch me because I scumread you and don't agree with you? Well okay then.
Nope. We're lynching you because I'm obviously town and your read literally is the least towny read on anyone in the whole fucking thread. And that's with all the bullshit reads that have been flying around left and right.
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I really don't get why I keep on playing with you guys. Most of you are fucking terrible and think you can read me and never fucking can. It's annoying as hell to deal with. Hello idiots. I'm not mafia. You can clearly see that in my first fucking post. Your brain. Use it. Like goddamn people will you ever learn anything?
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On February 09 2015 13:16 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:13 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 13:07 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 13:02 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:57 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:55 geript wrote:On February 09 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote:On February 09 2015 12:37 Keirathi wrote:On February 09 2015 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Geript is possible scum as well I think. Any thoughts on that? Hmm, not really sure I buy it. I think scum geript could have/would have pushed my lynch rather than defend me. ESPECIALLY if rayn is town. If they are scum together, maybe not so much, but for now I'm still okay with rayn being town even though he hasn't posted in over 24 hours. Anyways, my point is, with rayn on my wagon without any sign of stopping, scum geript could have pushed me pretty easily without much fear, and likely gotten the second most experienced player in the game lynched for free. Why would he pass up that opportunity? What makes you think he is scum? A few things are really bothering me about him over all, besides that I will say that the wagon on you at the point of geript entering the thread was pretty strong and there wasn't much fight against it. So fighting against it is a bit wifom but could gain town cred being right etc., Besides that, I think Geript lacks follow up to some of his posts and lacks a real thread presence at this point. For example in some of his original postings he asked questions that have just disappeared in the ether. In no way has he followed up on any of it, he had a scum read on me a good bit has came from then and he did not even mention anything really about the case but he attacked obi for no reasons and then when he got asked questions he disappeared again. I'm not saying hes definite scum, or that i'm as sure as I am on gobble. But I think he looks scummy, especially his push or lack of push and follow up at points. So you're saying the fact that I'm posting less makes me scum. That's a really dumb argument when it's clear from the start that I wasn't going to post as much. It's also rather ironic coming from you. I don't think you got the point at all. Posting less has nothing to do with what I said at all. Except that it does. I can't follow up on things if I'm not posting as much or if, when I'm posting, I'm following up on other things which are actually more important at the time. Like OWS. I can't follow up on things if I'm playing D&D with my friends for idk 7-8 hours or if I'm sleeping. Like I could make a huge case about you posting less and shit, but it's NLA. I'd rather just let people do their thing while I do mine. Actually my general filter as town or mafia is 4 pages by end of day one and i'm on page 5 I believe by now. So obviously that is a null argument either way. Secondly you are being really defensive. I am not saying you are scummy because you are not posting much, in fact if you look at student mafia which was linked a ton. You posted way less for most of d1 but you still had good follow up on things you asked or things you found interesting. However here, you dropped almost everything you talked about earlier and just focused on obi, you showed earlier in the thread that you can make huge posts talking about everything. But you didn't here you dropped most of the earlier stuff and just focused on obi without making a convincing case at all. Also, I've meta'd you a number of times. You do post less as mafia generally. My point was that when I called you mafia before it had nothing to do with the fact that you were practically MIA. Like it's still a really good point I made which I have since forgotten. Like if you're town you're being really bad by ignoring my good points and calling me mafia for completely fucking terrible "reasons." What is your current read on Damdred then? Also gobble?
I still think Damdred's a bit scummy but I've only skimmed from when I was tunneling OWS this afternoon. Gobble, idk. Pretty suspicious. Haven't filtered him yet either.
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On February 09 2015 13:17 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 09 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
OWS did you end up looking at what I've posted on gobble at this point? Mostly. And?
And OWS is clearly fucking mafia. Like what else do you need him to fucking say? Do you want him to claim it from the mountaintops or something? How do you not fucking see that OWS is fucking fuvking mafia maiaf aifam. Like jessu
For town:
Lynch OWS
Lynch Damdred
Win game
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One last thing I had before I play something for a bit to cool off. I remembered this because of a different game, but LS actually struck me as feeling a bit different than he did in either the newbie game or whatever the last game where I fucked up the DP read.
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On February 09 2015 13:46 Keirathi wrote:
Also @geript:
Where you at on gobble? You have him in your questionable pile but keep refusing to talk about him.
I haven't filtered him yet. I think he posted a bit more during the night and some today. I just don't really have a formed opinion on him. I need to filter him. I'll do it tonight before I head to bed.
Also, I can be tunneled on OWS, but his read on me is really fucking weird. Like uber weird. Like he's reading me as mafia while putting his vote down on someone else and his reasons for reading me mafia are worse than shit tier and make no sort of sense in any direction. Like how is it that a towny does that. Oh I'll plop my vote on Joe Shmoe random who I've said basically nothing about and can't really have a read on, but the guy I really want to lynch is Pretty Boy Sly who has a read I agree with but don't comment on who's "magically" reading 6 people as mafia and shit.
Like he's literally asking permission to start a wagon on me while voting for someone else that he's barely spoken about other than being forgettable. Like that's really fucking scummy.
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Like I can't even get away from it how much it annoys me that nobody else is just instant voting for the guy. He's literally picking the easiest lynchbait of all lynchbait to vote for and saying, "But who I really want to vote for is this guy. But I can't vote for him because I'm a pussy. Here's my reasons for wanting to vote for this guy but I'm not voting for this guy, I'm voting for that guy because who the fuck cares if I vote for that guy."
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On February 09 2015 13:59 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
Keirathi, who else is scum besides gobble do you think? I think your scum reading gobble at least. I think theres probably 2 within gobbo/slam/lian/maybe LM. Ask me again after flips.
Slam's weird. I need to reread his post to me again, but it did nothing for my peepee last time I read it and it I read it like 3 times trying to get it. I had a passing thought that he was trying to blue claim to me but idk why.
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The best reasons for gobble being mafia are the reasons I gave. He should've had an idea of where to go/look but he didn't. Neither did he find any. It's not a bad lynch.
OWS is still a much, much better lynch. Tl;dr edition--
1. Has no reasons for his vote
2. Votes for a guy while trying to lynch someone else
3. Reasons for wanting to vote someone else are the worst made up shit ever
4. Is the most useless poster ever
5. Magical "townread" (which isn't really a townread) on Keir because the reasons for pushing him were bad/lame
Like seriously people just lynch that fuck and be done with it.
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Rayn. OWS = Toadestern. You know the game.
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On February 10 2015 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript do you know why Keirathi thinks anyone in this game is mafia?
Off the top of my head? No. But I also know that I begged Keir to play a game and that he hasn't because irl. I think there are other reasons to find Keir town that you're glossing over.
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Yah. If you guys would consolidate on OWS I'd be much happier.
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That's basically what you said about toad too.
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