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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:48 GMT
#4361
Well that's all I've ever said really
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:48 GMT
#4362
On February 09 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Guys seriously how long are we gonna give it a pass because "it's LS" and when are we gonna look at what he's actually saying and realize he has no clear evolving view of the game state? This guy's targets all game have been:
- People who suspect him
- Whoever the popular kill is at the time
If anybody can go back to his town games and find an example where literally every single target he's had has fallen into one of these two categories then ok, but this is completely what I expect from a newer mafiaside player


Aren't we getting breshke to shoot him?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:49 GMT
#4363
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.

Y'all keep forgetting that at the time we were talking about vig not shooting. Breshke claimed because he wasn't planning to shoot at the time and figured he could be basically a named VT. That makes 100% sense.

And then the counterfactual makes even less sense, claim d2 instead of n1 if you're mafia vig trying to get read as town vig.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:49 GMT
#4364
Also for a confirmed town breshke sure wasn't really trying to solve the game imo
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:50 GMT
#4365
On February 09 2015 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Guys seriously how long are we gonna give it a pass because "it's LS" and when are we gonna look at what he's actually saying and realize he has no clear evolving view of the game state? This guy's targets all game have been:
- People who suspect him
- Whoever the popular kill is at the time
If anybody can go back to his town games and find an example where literally every single target he's had has fallen into one of these two categories then ok, but this is completely what I expect from a newer mafiaside player


Aren't we getting breshke to shoot him?

Yeah but it seems like people aren't actually giving an opinion on him. It's kinda annoying because I explicitly asked about it earlier and no one had squat to say

Makes me think people are being lazy about reading him which I'm not gonna stand for if it's my scumread
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2015 20:50 GMT
#4366
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.


That does make a lot of sense, tbh. And people keep asking why shoot koshi if bresh is mafia? But if you're right about jat and I was right about jat before the cop claim cleared him, then bresh was being told to shoot between two mafia partners. He chooses to shoot someone else, it's going to be a lot harder to explain.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:50 GMT
#4367
I'm being lazy about reading him
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:51 GMT
#4368
On February 09 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.


That does make a lot of sense, tbh. And people keep asking why shoot koshi if bresh is mafia? But if you're right about jat and I was right about jat before the cop claim cleared him, then bresh was being told to shoot between two mafia partners. He chooses to shoot someone else, it's going to be a lot harder to explain.

Requires marv to be town

Try again
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2015 20:52 GMT
#4369
On February 09 2015 05:51 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.


That does make a lot of sense, tbh. And people keep asking why shoot koshi if bresh is mafia? But if you're right about jat and I was right about jat before the cop claim cleared him, then bresh was being told to shoot between two mafia partners. He chooses to shoot someone else, it's going to be a lot harder to explain.

Requires marv to be town

Try again


i'm not as sure on marv as you are, eden. i literally am voting him right now because he gave up
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:53 GMT
#4370
Y'all got nothin to say about my post on breshke
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:54 GMT
#4371
On February 06 2015 08:43 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Breshke wtf why you would claim now at the night phase. Now Mafia will kill you or roleblock you........


It doesnt matter i wont be using my role im like a named VT if i shoot we go to Lylo if i dont shoot we have two lynches

“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2015 20:54 GMT
#4372
On February 09 2015 05:47 Eden1892 wrote:
Guys seriously how long are we gonna give it a pass because "it's LS" and when are we gonna look at what he's actually saying and realize he has no clear evolving view of the game state? This guy's targets all game have been:
- People who suspect him
- Whoever the popular kill is at the time
If anybody can go back to his town games and find an example where literally every single target he's had has fallen into one of these two categories then ok, but this is completely what I expect from a newer mafiaside player


This is valid, too -_-

He has had the balls to go against thread sentiment in his earlier town games. Though I'd have to double-check to verify those people weren't the ones suspecting him, cause the case i explicitly remember was HTS and she was voting him.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:55 GMT
#4373
Look at how that's immediately his response and how it makes total sense given that the first thought for most mafia players in that situation is indeed "oh shit, if I shoot wrong it's mylo, if I don't we get 2 lynches"
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:55 GMT
#4374
If i was mafia with a framer and koshi was obviously the shot i would frame mafia jat 10/10 times btw
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2015 20:56 GMT
#4375
On February 09 2015 05:54 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 08:43 Breshke wrote:
On February 06 2015 08:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay Breshke wtf why you would claim now at the night phase. Now Mafia will kill you or roleblock you........


It doesnt matter i wont be using my role im like a named VT if i shoot we go to Lylo if i dont shoot we have two lynches



He said that, yes. It's like anything. Do you believe him or don't you? I could say I'm purple with polka dots; doesn't necessarily make it true (though I am wearing purple).
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 08 2015 20:57 GMT
#4376
On February 09 2015 05:55 Eden1892 wrote:
Look at how that's immediately his response and how it makes total sense given that the first thought for most mafia players in that situation is indeed "oh shit, if I shoot wrong it's mylo, if I don't we get 2 lynches"


True, the thought process is definitely townie, wanting to hold the shot.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#4377
On February 09 2015 05:55 Holyflare wrote:
If i was mafia with a framer and koshi was obviously the shot i would frame mafia jat 10/10 times btw

I would too but I don't think it matters since it's marv and LS as the final 2 mafia
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#4378
I'm not totally sure on marv tbh because he claimed while voting me when normally he'd just give up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 08 2015 20:59 GMT
#4379
+i reread miller claim and it was legit
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16338 Posts
February 08 2015 21:00 GMT
#4380
On February 09 2015 05:50 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:41 rsoultin wrote:
On February 09 2015 05:36 Holyflare wrote:
If breshke town vig - get ppl to talk shoot mafia then claim + get credit or don't claim and get more shots/claim if under extreme pressure if needed or claim n1 get rb'd??

If breshke mafia and under pressure claim vig get town read?. Die d2 if not claim.

Only benefits mafia but would have thought they would claim rb even if they didn't have it....


hf, please use English ^^;


Let's say you are a town vigilante in a setup with roleblockers. Why on earth do you ever claim when you have 2 shots and there is a rber instead of just talking about everyones mafia reads?? The answer is that you don't. You are under pressure to be lynched day 2 and have a provable night action role so there is absolutely no threat to you getting lynched.

Now let's say you are a mafia vigilante who is under crazy suspicion and will be lynched d2. What do you do to get out of that? Claim a role. Otherwise you die d2.

The only benefit to claiming is for mafia.


That does make a lot of sense, tbh. And people keep asking why shoot koshi if bresh is mafia? But if you're right about jat and I was right about jat before the cop claim cleared him, then bresh was being told to shoot between two mafia partners. He chooses to shoot someone else, it's going to be a lot harder to explain.

Stupidest shit I ever heard.
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