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On February 08 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 11:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 11:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:Eden complete 180 turn on me is really making me cringe like he called me 100% town earlier in N1 and now doing a complete 180 is like wut..... bats is being bats and voting for his scumread like he didin Student IV. Breshke is unCCed Vig Marv as scum would be called scum Day 1 or Night 1 by Palmar and he looked really townie with his questioning on you. rsoultin I never played with you are scum and I starting you question my own read on you baby girl  JAT's defense and making a really good case on HF being scum is making him a top town in my books. Meh, maybe I'm just the nutball around here, but I really don't understand what is so shiny about jat's case. Maybe someone can explain it to me, sometime. What I find weird, LS, to be frank, is that you kept saying I was town when I was largely inactive earlier and now that I'm up to speed I'm scum? It's not quite as much a 180 as Eden pulled (but Eden's reads have jumped so much all game anyway lol) but it doesn't match up with what's going on in the thread. Maybe I'm biased, but that's how I see it. JAT's case alone suddenly had you townreading him, who you were voting earlier, voting HF, and questioning me? It's like a magic case or something to go along with your magic 8 ball xP You got him with the flip flop. Same thing Hf did but in reverse Pack it up we're done here I <3 you, Eden, but he irony of you jumping on anyone for flip-flops lol... I'm just not understanding LS'...HF flip-flopped on me after talking to me for hours, and I don't know that a flip-flop is still an accurate descriptor since it wasn't a strong town read. You also flipped on me during the same conversation.
Hf had you as top scum for most of d1, forgot about you at EOD and resumed being on you until discussion went elsewhere. That's not a townie progression
LS had you as sure town then sure mafia without any real explanation and then when he's called out on it he doesn't make sense as to why
I've gone back and forth a billion times but explained myself as much as I could and with mostly sensible (if not great) reasons
And LS had me as definite town then called me mafia because I suspected him and is now nonsensically trying to hedge after being called out. He said if x or y die then I'm mafia but then says he wasn't calling me mafia ???
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On February 08 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:Eden complete 180 turn on me is really making me cringe like he called me 100% town earlier in N1 and now doing a complete 180 is like wut..... bats is being bats and voting for his scumread like he didin Student IV. Breshke is unCCed Vig Marv as scum would be called scum Day 1 or Night 1 by Palmar and he looked really townie with his questioning on you. rsoultin I never played with you are scum and I starting you question my own read on you baby girl JAT's defense and making a really good case on HF being scum is making him a top town in my books.
Why is hf not on this list LS
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Because HF is our lynch today Breshke that's why.
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I don't know LS, you seem so unsure which isn't scummy but you also dont seem to be trying to find out anyone's alignment you are just waiting to see who dies and you are going to go from there. Like that doesn't make sense to me, you also seem to be so sure HF is going to flip mafia which is also weird because you arn't sure on anything else
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On February 08 2015 12:20 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 11:47 Eden1892 wrote:On February 08 2015 11:36 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:Eden complete 180 turn on me is really making me cringe like he called me 100% town earlier in N1 and now doing a complete 180 is like wut..... bats is being bats and voting for his scumread like he didin Student IV. Breshke is unCCed Vig Marv as scum would be called scum Day 1 or Night 1 by Palmar and he looked really townie with his questioning on you. rsoultin I never played with you are scum and I starting you question my own read on you baby girl JAT's defense and making a really good case on HF being scum is making him a top town in my books. Meh, maybe I'm just the nutball around here, but I really don't understand what is so shiny about jat's case. Maybe someone can explain it to me, sometime. What I find weird, LS, to be frank, is that you kept saying I was town when I was largely inactive earlier and now that I'm up to speed I'm scum? It's not quite as much a 180 as Eden pulled (but Eden's reads have jumped so much all game anyway lol) but it doesn't match up with what's going on in the thread. Maybe I'm biased, but that's how I see it. JAT's case alone suddenly had you townreading him, who you were voting earlier, voting HF, and questioning me? It's like a magic case or something to go along with your magic 8 ball xP You got him with the flip flop. Same thing Hf did but in reverse Pack it up we're done here I <3 you, Eden, but he irony of you jumping on anyone for flip-flops lol... I'm just not understanding LS'...HF flip-flopped on me after talking to me for hours, and I don't know that a flip-flop is still an accurate descriptor since it wasn't a strong town read. You also flipped on me during the same conversation. Hf had you as top scum for most of d1, forgot about you at EOD and resumed being on you until discussion went elsewhere. That's not a townie progression LS had you as sure town then sure mafia without any real explanation and then when he's called out on it he doesn't make sense as to why I've gone back and forth a billion times but explained myself as much as I could and with mostly sensible (if not great) reasons And LS had me as definite town then called me mafia because I suspected him and is now nonsensically trying to hedge after being called out. He said if x or y die then I'm mafia but then says he wasn't calling me mafia ???
Eden, an exercise. Have you reread HF's filter lately? Of course the way JAT presented it looks like HF forgot about me, but just look at the sheer amount of time that passes between that read and EoD, and the progression of his read on Onegu, Breshke and Damdred.
Believe me, after your shenanigans last game and DP pocketing geript, I'm paying attention to people doing things that don't make sense. JAT's misrepresenting it.
LS' read changes don't make sense, I agree. Yours are pretty clear.
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I hope you realise I'm town????
Jat even cited an hts read from void which i only pushed in the last hour of void incessantly over any scum read i had in that game. Much like onegu this game. In fact almost identically.
He also uses THE EXACT same case that koshi tried to push on me but koshis was that i barely mention jat so we must be scum together and jat is that i barely mention koshi so we must be scum together???
The case isn't great if you have literally any idea how i play town at all. Which jat most definitely does.
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On February 08 2015 13:54 Holyflare wrote:
I hope you realise I'm town????
Jat even cited an hts read from void which i only pushed in the last hour of void incessantly over any scum read i had in that game. Much like onegu this game. In fact almost identically.
He also uses THE EXACT same case that koshi tried to push on me but koshis was that i barely mention jat so we must be scum together and jat is that i barely mention koshi so we must be scum together???
The case isn't great if you have literally any idea how i play town at all. Which jat most definitely does.
Why weren't you pushing me for lynch Day 1, HF?
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I kinda wrote about my feels for you at night. +i thought onegu was really obvious mafia and i felt strongly about it. I actually omly switched to damdred because of a lingering what if he is scum moment and because you joined the onegu wagon and so did many people who weren't particularly town reading me just because i was yelling about it hence why i said abandon ship.
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On February 08 2015 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kinda wrote about my feels for you at night. +i thought onegu was really obvious mafia and i felt strongly about it. I actually omly switched to damdred because of a lingering what if he is scum moment and because you joined the onegu wagon and so did many people who weren't particularly town reading me just because i was yelling about it hence why i said abandon ship.
Have your reads changed any after reading the...well, mess, lol...that went on today?
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Just read page 14 and 15 of my filter and tell me I'm mafia when I had no need to bus and was spending the entire night trying to solve the game with eden.
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On February 08 2015 14:05 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kinda wrote about my feels for you at night. +i thought onegu was really obvious mafia and i felt strongly about it. I actually omly switched to damdred because of a lingering what if he is scum moment and because you joined the onegu wagon and so did many people who weren't particularly town reading me just because i was yelling about it hence why i said abandon ship. Have your reads changed any after reading the...well, mess, lol...that went on today?
No I'm in a bit of an emergency irl so I only saw the case and spam of how I'm obvious mafia and didn't pay much attention to it.
It's awfully funny how
A) jat never makes cases as town
B) jats case actually contains lies about how i play town
C) jat is somehow the only one that said the game is super solved when the nk happened
C is weird as shit because he didn't reevaluate me in the slightest when koshi flipped mafia after me and eden discussing to definitely shoot him in the night and instead only quoted one post where I said i thought he was blue and didn't quote the plethora of posts on page 14/15/16 where i say koshi is 100% mafia and try and convince marv etc about it.
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And c is also incredibly weird because i feel absolutely clueless of who mafia is and if you all think I'm mafia you're all in a more clueless spot than me
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On February 08 2015 14:11 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 14:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kinda wrote about my feels for you at night. +i thought onegu was really obvious mafia and i felt strongly about it. I actually omly switched to damdred because of a lingering what if he is scum moment and because you joined the onegu wagon and so did many people who weren't particularly town reading me just because i was yelling about it hence why i said abandon ship. Have your reads changed any after reading the...well, mess, lol...that went on today? No I'm in a bit of an emergency irl so I only saw the case and spam of how I'm obvious mafia and didn't pay much attention to it. It's awfully funny how A) jat never makes cases as town B) jats case actually contains lies about how i play town C) jat is somehow the only one that said the game is super solved when the nk happened C is weird as shit because he didn't reevaluate me in the slightest when koshi flipped mafia after me and eden discussing to definitely shoot him in the night and instead only quoted one post where I said i thought he was blue and didn't quote the plethora of posts on page 14/15/16 where i say koshi is 100% mafia and try and convince marv etc about it.
Okay, well, whenever you get a chance, then. Sorry to hear things are going yuck for you :/
Btw, if you want me to townread you, HF, for pushing koshi and the shot, but then scumread me when I was telling Bresh to shoot me or koshi, it's not gonna fly, just saying xP
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Like please people don't just sit on this case and think omg so good. Go through each individual point and question my thought processes and I will explain each and every single one fully.
Don't let jat bury me because I'm not mafia in the slightest and i have a reason for everything I've done!
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RSo is this town LS? Like i really don't know and realised i havn't played with "VT" LS like ever i think he has always been a powerrole or mafia. I don't get his reads or why he wants to lynch HF and is so sure about it yet need to wait for the nk to find another mafia. It also doesn't seem to register for him that i get another shot
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On February 08 2015 14:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2015 14:11 Holyflare wrote:On February 08 2015 14:05 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2015 14:01 Holyflare wrote:
I kinda wrote about my feels for you at night. +i thought onegu was really obvious mafia and i felt strongly about it. I actually omly switched to damdred because of a lingering what if he is scum moment and because you joined the onegu wagon and so did many people who weren't particularly town reading me just because i was yelling about it hence why i said abandon ship. Have your reads changed any after reading the...well, mess, lol...that went on today? No I'm in a bit of an emergency irl so I only saw the case and spam of how I'm obvious mafia and didn't pay much attention to it. It's awfully funny how A) jat never makes cases as town B) jats case actually contains lies about how i play town C) jat is somehow the only one that said the game is super solved when the nk happened C is weird as shit because he didn't reevaluate me in the slightest when koshi flipped mafia after me and eden discussing to definitely shoot him in the night and instead only quoted one post where I said i thought he was blue and didn't quote the plethora of posts on page 14/15/16 where i say koshi is 100% mafia and try and convince marv etc about it. Okay, well, whenever you get a chance, then. Sorry to hear things are going yuck for you :/ Btw, if you want me to townread you, HF, for pushing koshi and the shot, but then scumread me when I was telling Bresh to shoot me or koshi, it's not gonna fly, just saying xP
I'm not telling you to town read me based solely on that but it should absolutely add to the town read people have had on me for most of the game. I also do not remember you in the slightest convincing anyone to shoot koshi. Me and eden were definitely solving it out ourselves.
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And I'm pretty sure i convinced breshke to open up discussion of nk's and shoot koshi and stuff
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On February 08 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
RSo is this town LS? Like i really don't know and realised i havn't played with "VT" LS like ever i think he has always been a powerrole or mafia. I don't get his reads or why he wants to lynch HF and is so sure about it yet need to wait for the nk to find another mafia. It also doesn't seem to register for him that i get another shot
I have one theory that would make him town, and because of that theory I want to make sure that I think jat is more likely scum than HF before I switch back, but if that theory isn't right then the rest of this makes no sense whatsoever. LS has played more confidently all game than I'm used to, and note how his reads are so under-explained today when he usually does the rambling run-on sentences thing that's half a read and half a summary of what happened in the thread before.
I think if HF is lynched today and flips town, LS should be high on the lynch list, in all honesty, for this sudden change in behavior.
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