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I actually do have 0 problem with breshke shooting towns from my list
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On February 06 2015 18:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:27 Eden1892 wrote:
So this is actually another great reason for why Koshi is mafia. Palmar if you're town you'll dig this pretty hard.
Koshi isn't being sincere at all in his questioning. He's not trying to understand why my read on SL changed. Koshi was around at EOD to hear me repeat myself about SL being a distraction lynch. Instead of questioning me on that, he's resorted to digging through my very long filter, finding a post where I believed SL to be mafia, and then he's trying to frame it as negatively as possible. It's very disingenuous. And he is selectively ignoring arguments he can't respond to, like the filter length argument. This guy is a fraud. 1) I ask you to tell me why your read changed. How am I not trying to understand? Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 17:53 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2015 12:54 Eden1892 wrote:
updating
1 Breshke
2 Eden1892
3 rsoultin
4 LightningStrike
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
7 Palmar
8 marvellosity
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
11 Koshi
12 Holyflare
13 justanothertownie
I have a mind to lynch Palmar next for being afk as much as he is. It's been one day so it's hard to know how much of that is just irl stuff and how much is actual lurking, but he seems less active than normal. Even when he's not trying to do a lot he's usually in the thread. His absence here is a little much.
Kinda feel like batsnacks is an okay lynch maybe? I don't remember off the top of my head what he's done this game.
Koshi is mostly the same. I remember both batsnacks and Koshi posting but not what they posted never mind I remember Koshi wanting to kill Breshke but then changing his mind-ish? Still not enough for me to be okay with him.
JAT I could just be paranoid on, but I really feel like he isn't doing a lot. He managed to boost his filter size up to snuff, but I don't feel like he's said/done a whole lot for its length. On February 06 2015 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
It is this simple,
People who tried hard enough to earn a d2 (or more, as the case may be)
Damdred
sicklucker
Breshke
justanothertownie
People who didn't
Koshi
Onegu On February 06 2015 09:14 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
if rso is mafia, eden, you can apologise to me for defending her all day whenever i/hf were suspicious of her.
just sayin like yeah yeah kiss the ring for being wrong about like 3 ppl i defended and we'll call it square  Can somebody show me why and where Eden flips his read on sl? He flipped reads 500 times this game but this one is the oddest I think. Out of all people I think Eden called SL mafia the most consistently. Yet I don't remember Eden pushing SL at all. Ever. 2) I am scumhunting. That is looking for oddities. I was around when you were yelling SL was a distraction lynch. BUT that was just to get me or Onegu lynched. THAT DOES NOT COUNT. Look at me: I am protecting town to lynch these other 2 townies. GJ EDEN 3) Mostly I have 3 pages of filter as scum D1 and then 6 pages after D3. So I am now confirmed town to you?
(1) is pretty obvious to me from this quote:
On February 06 2015 18:18 Koshi wrote:
You called SL mafia multiple times. And you stopped calling him scum because you joined his wagon? Nice.
That's not "asking me why my read changed" to "try to understand." That's a pithy, sarcastic one-liner that makes no effort to advance the conversation. I had to go back and basically repeat myself and find the quote you should have found for yourself (if you were going to go filter-dive me for pertinent quotes). You aren't trying to understand my read, you're very clearly trying to paint my indecisiveness about SL for most of the day as suspicious.
(2) You aren't town, so I don't really find this rebuttal compelling.
(3) No, because as I actually discussed in this thread already, ironically (though it's understandable if you missed it, it was a sidenote), that doesn't account for the activity level of the other threads. I only used a flat rate with my numbers because the discrepancy is so painfully apparent that you'd have to be incompetent or malevolent not to recognize it for what it is.
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On February 06 2015 18:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:42 Holyflare wrote:
No we want to shoot into a list and you've done shit all all game and literally said "this is what happens when i don't play" and instead of find mafia you've somehow come to the conclusion the towniest people are the mafia and somehow ignore absolutely everyone else in the game Why exactly are you town?
It's what my pm says + been poeing all night bro
Why are you yelling you're town again?
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On February 06 2015 18:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:31 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 18:27 Koshi wrote:
best scenario vigi:
7 vs 3
6 vs 2 nk +vig
5 vs 2 ml 2
4 vs 2 nk
3 vs 2 ml 3
2 vs 2 loss after nk
worst scenario vigi:
7 vs 3
5 vs 3 nk + vigi
4 vs 3 ml 2
3 vs 3 loss after nk
No shot vigi:
7 vs 3
6 vs 3 nk
5 vs 3 ml 2
4 vs 3 nk
3 vs 3 loss after ml 3
Why would vigi shoot if it doesn't gain us a ml? And saying during the night it "confirms" breshke if he shoots smells of pushing mafia agenda. Because
1) he might be scum vigi (would be very dumb to claim unless you can magically shoot town and thread approves, which is happening so yeah....)
2) he might be rb (does this then make him suddenly scum?)
and tbh if he doesn't shoot and there is no blue CC he is probably town ANYWAY.
+ the claim would be pretty insane mafia play.
So yeah, he is very likely town. So saying he is confirmed town for shooting is really bad. He would shoot if he felt he had a chance to hit mafia, naturally. You'll notice no one recommended he shoot until people (me and HF) got confident in our suspects. Breshke would be confirmed as town vig if he shot mafia. It's pretty simple. If he hits a townie then he's unconfirmed naturally, although I think setup speculation would still favor town vig. (Antitown role in miller + something as strong as scum vig? We better be sitting on some damn haymaker roles.) But incidentally this is another good example of Koshi approaching this from a mafia POV. He makes a decent point that Breshke isn't absolutely confirmed just because he shoots, but instead of recognizing this as an oversight, he immediately reaches for the most sinister conclusion he can. He's not earnestly trying to determine any alignments, he's just trying to turn any mole hill he can latch onto into a mountain. No? I am proving that people who push breshke for shooting to "confirm" himself are fucking frauds. Because it is pretty clear he is town from the claim itself. Eden confirmed not reading or mafia.
No one argued for this. You're going to have to work harder to misrepresent me than that. I brought up the idea of confirming Breshke to remove any doubt on his claim, which as you'd note if you were reading the thread sincerely instead of hopping around in a desperate fit trying to find anything to throw at me, I believed immediately, but other people didn't. My primary reason for wanting him to shoot has always been because I felt confident in my suspects and wanted to hit mafia tonight.
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On February 06 2015 18:40 Holyflare wrote:
Setup setup setup talk at n1. Content plz. Since you're literally both saying mafia 100% has a rber you are talking about absolutely nothing
Amen
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On February 06 2015 18:43 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:36 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2015 18:27 Eden1892 wrote:
So this is actually another great reason for why Koshi is mafia. Palmar if you're town you'll dig this pretty hard.
Koshi isn't being sincere at all in his questioning. He's not trying to understand why my read on SL changed. Koshi was around at EOD to hear me repeat myself about SL being a distraction lynch. Instead of questioning me on that, he's resorted to digging through my very long filter, finding a post where I believed SL to be mafia, and then he's trying to frame it as negatively as possible. It's very disingenuous. And he is selectively ignoring arguments he can't respond to, like the filter length argument. This guy is a fraud. 1) I ask you to tell me why your read changed. How am I not trying to understand? On February 06 2015 17:53 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2015 12:54 Eden1892 wrote:
updating
1 Breshke
2 Eden1892
3 rsoultin
4 LightningStrike
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
7 Palmar
8 marvellosity
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
11 Koshi
12 Holyflare
13 justanothertownie
I have a mind to lynch Palmar next for being afk as much as he is. It's been one day so it's hard to know how much of that is just irl stuff and how much is actual lurking, but he seems less active than normal. Even when he's not trying to do a lot he's usually in the thread. His absence here is a little much.
Kinda feel like batsnacks is an okay lynch maybe? I don't remember off the top of my head what he's done this game.
Koshi is mostly the same. I remember both batsnacks and Koshi posting but not what they posted never mind I remember Koshi wanting to kill Breshke but then changing his mind-ish? Still not enough for me to be okay with him.
JAT I could just be paranoid on, but I really feel like he isn't doing a lot. He managed to boost his filter size up to snuff, but I don't feel like he's said/done a whole lot for its length. On February 06 2015 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
It is this simple,
People who tried hard enough to earn a d2 (or more, as the case may be)
Damdred
sicklucker
Breshke
justanothertownie
People who didn't
Koshi
Onegu On February 06 2015 09:14 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
if rso is mafia, eden, you can apologise to me for defending her all day whenever i/hf were suspicious of her.
just sayin like yeah yeah kiss the ring for being wrong about like 3 ppl i defended and we'll call it square Can somebody show me why and where Eden flips his read on sl? He flipped reads 500 times this game but this one is the oddest I think. Out of all people I think Eden called SL mafia the most consistently. Yet I don't remember Eden pushing SL at all. Ever. 2) I am scumhunting. That is looking for oddities. I was around when you were yelling SL was a distraction lynch. BUT that was just to get me or Onegu lynched. THAT DOES NOT COUNT. Look at me: I am protecting town to lynch these other 2 townies. GJ EDEN 3) Mostly I have 3 pages of filter as scum D1 and then 6 pages after D3. So I am now confirmed town to you? (1) is pretty obvious to me from this quote: Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:18 Koshi wrote:
You called SL mafia multiple times. And you stopped calling him scum because you joined his wagon? Nice. That's not "asking me why my read changed" to "try to understand." That's a pithy, sarcastic one-liner that makes no effort to advance the conversation. I had to go back and basically repeat myself and find the quote you should have found for yourself (if you were going to go filter-dive me for pertinent quotes). You aren't trying to understand my read, you're very clearly trying to paint my indecisiveness about SL for most of the day as suspicious. (2) You aren't town, so I don't really find this rebuttal compelling. (3) No, because as I actually discussed in this thread already, ironically (though it's understandable if you missed it, it was a sidenote), that doesn't account for the activity level of the other threads. I only used a flat rate with my numbers because the discrepancy is so painfully apparent that you'd have to be incompetent or malevolent not to recognize it for what it is.
(1) Because it is suspicious.
(2) Keep being terrible.
(3) See (2)
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Anyone that questions eden as town after he literally just played abysmal mafia and got lynched day 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig
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On February 06 2015 18:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:43 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 18:36 Koshi wrote:On February 06 2015 18:27 Eden1892 wrote:
So this is actually another great reason for why Koshi is mafia. Palmar if you're town you'll dig this pretty hard.
Koshi isn't being sincere at all in his questioning. He's not trying to understand why my read on SL changed. Koshi was around at EOD to hear me repeat myself about SL being a distraction lynch. Instead of questioning me on that, he's resorted to digging through my very long filter, finding a post where I believed SL to be mafia, and then he's trying to frame it as negatively as possible. It's very disingenuous. And he is selectively ignoring arguments he can't respond to, like the filter length argument. This guy is a fraud. 1) I ask you to tell me why your read changed. How am I not trying to understand? On February 06 2015 17:53 Koshi wrote:On February 05 2015 12:54 Eden1892 wrote:
updating
1 Breshke
2 Eden1892
3 rsoultin
4 LightningStrike
5 Onegu
6 Damdred
7 Palmar
8 marvellosity
9 sicklucker
10 batsnacks
11 Koshi
12 Holyflare
13 justanothertownie
I have a mind to lynch Palmar next for being afk as much as he is. It's been one day so it's hard to know how much of that is just irl stuff and how much is actual lurking, but he seems less active than normal. Even when he's not trying to do a lot he's usually in the thread. His absence here is a little much.
Kinda feel like batsnacks is an okay lynch maybe? I don't remember off the top of my head what he's done this game.
Koshi is mostly the same. I remember both batsnacks and Koshi posting but not what they posted never mind I remember Koshi wanting to kill Breshke but then changing his mind-ish? Still not enough for me to be okay with him.
JAT I could just be paranoid on, but I really feel like he isn't doing a lot. He managed to boost his filter size up to snuff, but I don't feel like he's said/done a whole lot for its length. On February 06 2015 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:
It is this simple,
People who tried hard enough to earn a d2 (or more, as the case may be)
Damdred
sicklucker
Breshke
justanothertownie
People who didn't
Koshi
Onegu On February 06 2015 09:14 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
if rso is mafia, eden, you can apologise to me for defending her all day whenever i/hf were suspicious of her.
just sayin like yeah yeah kiss the ring for being wrong about like 3 ppl i defended and we'll call it square Can somebody show me why and where Eden flips his read on sl? He flipped reads 500 times this game but this one is the oddest I think. Out of all people I think Eden called SL mafia the most consistently. Yet I don't remember Eden pushing SL at all. Ever. 2) I am scumhunting. That is looking for oddities. I was around when you were yelling SL was a distraction lynch. BUT that was just to get me or Onegu lynched. THAT DOES NOT COUNT. Look at me: I am protecting town to lynch these other 2 townies. GJ EDEN 3) Mostly I have 3 pages of filter as scum D1 and then 6 pages after D3. So I am now confirmed town to you? (1) is pretty obvious to me from this quote: On February 06 2015 18:18 Koshi wrote:
You called SL mafia multiple times. And you stopped calling him scum because you joined his wagon? Nice. That's not "asking me why my read changed" to "try to understand." That's a pithy, sarcastic one-liner that makes no effort to advance the conversation. I had to go back and basically repeat myself and find the quote you should have found for yourself (if you were going to go filter-dive me for pertinent quotes). You aren't trying to understand my read, you're very clearly trying to paint my indecisiveness about SL for most of the day as suspicious. (2) You aren't town, so I don't really find this rebuttal compelling. (3) No, because as I actually discussed in this thread already, ironically (though it's understandable if you missed it, it was a sidenote), that doesn't account for the activity level of the other threads. I only used a flat rate with my numbers because the discrepancy is so painfully apparent that you'd have to be incompetent or malevolent not to recognize it for what it is. (1) Because it is suspicious. (2) Keep being terrible. (3) See (2)
(1) I would be more sympathetic to you saying it's suspicious if you came to that conclusion after an earnest and thorough assessment of my read on sicklucker as it's evolved throughout the thread. Instead you cherry-picked one quote where I said he was mafia and one later where I said he was town and pretended like I just jumped to that conclusion without explanation, when I've now specifically quoted back to you exactly why and when I switched.
(2) CSB
(3) What is terrible about my argument based on my filter? If it's so bad you should be able to refute it with something.
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On February 06 2015 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that questions eden as town after he literally just played abysmal mafia and got lynched day 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig
Anyone that questions hf as town after he literally conceded mafia night 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig
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On February 06 2015 18:50 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that questions eden as town after he literally just played abysmal mafia and got lynched day 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig Anyone that questions hf as town after he literally conceded mafia night 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig
Well that's completely different :p
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Sleep time. Can't wait for town to wake up and see 2/3 of this game solved
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On February 06 2015 18:51 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2015 18:50 Eden1892 wrote:On February 06 2015 18:49 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone that questions eden as town after he literally just played abysmal mafia and got lynched day 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig Anyone that questions hf as town after he literally conceded mafia night 1 last game deserves to be shot by a vig Well that's completely different :p
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Hilarious how both jat and koshi return and start to say I'm mafia though
10/10 would vig again
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This game is fucking retarded. Grtz on spamming the thread with shit.
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You come back to my thread and call out the towniest guy in it for a read you can't even be fucked to fully establish before you make it and then you get completelt schooled for not reading his progression and then you bitch about the thread quality instead
Yeh ok
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Yeah well. It is the only way I am going to get any progression going.
The option to join the circle jerk and call Koshi mafia was not available.
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On February 06 2015 18:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Although Palmar and Koshi could absolutely be mafia.
I could not.
Maybe Koshi.
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jat only has 12 pages of filter.
Confirmed mafia.
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i can't really be bothered to play anymore, so maybe you should shoot me
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