Linux Mini Mafia

On January 31 2015 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:

/out
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On January 31 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:

the regular ones or the favored ones? The regular ones are VTs (like you). The favored ones are just VTs with names (like me)

On January 31 2015 06:10 Damdred wrote:
Meh scum already knows what the setup is partially and robik helped them figure it out a bit more so theres that. Its not really fishing at this point. If we have a cop or doc never claim though

On January 31 2015 06:11 Damdred wrote:
Once I did have a laptop that was Linux based but never again

On January 31 2015 06:10 Damdred wrote:
Meh scum already knows what the setup is partially and robik helped them figure it out a bit more so theres that. Its not really fishing at this point. If we have a cop or doc never claim though

Modifications - pick one at random:
1) Remove one Linux Distro and add one Favored Distro.
2) Use setup as-is.
3) Remove one Favored Distro and add one Linux Distro if possible.

On January 31 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:

the regular ones or the favored ones? The regular ones are VTs (like you). The favored ones are just VTs with names (like me)

On January 31 2015 06:43 Holyflare wrote:
why didn't you ask if i'm happy?

On January 31 2015 06:47 Eden1892 wrote:
But what if marv were sad, Chez?

On January 31 2015 07:06 sicklucker wrote:


Ive taught you well. Btw this player list is my favorite yet

On January 31 2015 07:17 sicklucker wrote:


If linux is town yes. Ive never bothered to read the op yet

On January 31 2015 07:45 marvellosity wrote:

and i was mafia

lol

On January 31 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote:

just not feelin it

On January 31 2015 08:28 LightningStrike wrote:

You can't just vote people for no reason so why are you voting Damdred?

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On January 31 2015 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:

So where's your reason, chez?

On January 31 2015 10:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
Just to be clear, you're going with me over a lurker because I have made useless posts rather than not posting at all, correct?

So sheeping HF and posting garbage is "seeking out weak links to penetrate and defile?"

On January 31 2015 10:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
So the simple calculator or alarm clock programs are truly evil? You would purge your system of benign files just because they aren't helping purge your system of malicious software? It almost seems to me like you've found a weak link and are trying to penetrate and/or defile me.

On January 31 2015 17:06 Trfel wrote:
Ok, sorry, I've been really distracted with IEM and stuff. I read through the thread twice, but not particularly in depth.

Surprised that rsoultin wasn't willing to read Eden1892's entire post. I guess it's late, and she wasn't expecting to need to play mafia, but rsoultin seems like the player who is willing to read every word of every post.

I understand why Eden1892 says he doesn't want to play as mafia, and his town games are always so short. And posting that isn't just a rant, it's a really good way to seem scummy and not get nightkilled (unless the mafia team is full of complete jerks and they nightkill him in pure cruelty).

I agreed with Holyflare a lot this game. The early pressure on Damdred, the pressure on sicklucker, and telling the other VTs not to claim.

Sicklucker has been acting suspiciously this game, and I'm inclined to scumread him. But I've always had a ton of trouble reading sicklucker. Our playstyles are basically complete opposites, so I have a lot of trouble understanding what he is trying to do, and I often can't understand his logic. Basically, I don't expect town!sicklucker or mafia!sicklucker would be able to answer all of the questions asked to him in ways that would satisfy me. Hopefully sicklucker will get some time to talk about other parts of the thread more, so we can get a better read on him.

I still don't like Robik's claim, and I don't think it makes him confirmed town. I asked a few times for an explanation, and no one really gave one, so I'll just ignore this for now. If it comes down to this in later stages of the game, I'll take another look. Roles, setup, and claims really aren't something I understand.

I'll try to be much more active and helpful tomorrow.

Player List
1) Trfel (Filter)
2) LightningStrike (Filter)
3) Chezitwo (Filter)
4) Damdred (Filter)
5) IAmRobik (Filter)
6) rsoultin (Filter)
7) sicklucker (Filter)
8) Half the Sky (Filter)
9) Eden1892 (Filter)
10) Palmar (Filter)
11) MARVELLOSITY (Filter)
12) HolyFlare (Filter)
13) FecalFeast (Filter)

On January 31 2015 20:26 marvellosity wrote:

maybe. he's always shit and useless.

On January 31 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I haven't read my role pm

On July 17 2014 11:01 Palmar wrote:
Just so it's clear. Until @chairman comes into thread and says "I read my role pm" I'm not doing, reading or voting anything else.

On January 31 2015 23:30 Half the Sky wrote:
I actually don't like Rasputin as of the time when I went to bed.

She calls me boring. Ironic because both of us were playing catchup last night because of RL commitments and she started commenting even later than I did.

So I'm not sure what that makes her, really.

On February 01 2015 00:43 rsoultin wrote:


I could get behind this read.

Chezi already said the same thing you know. It's why I said he gets a no-lynch pass from me today.

On January 31 2015 23:46 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm looking at Chez's filter.

No idea where he's going with his ideas. His linked explanation to Fecalfeast's vote simply linked to his filter. Why don't you explain exactly what about Fecalfeast made him scumlike?

Then he asks Marv whether he's a distro, when his vote is on him. Where did that come from?

On February 01 2015 00:12 Half the Sky wrote:
Damdred - On Fecalfeast, I'm not sure his first post



I would think overexplanation of things is generally a scum trait, but it could be faulty reasoning.

Not much to glean from most of his posts at the moment. I get this thought of laziness from the first few hours of the game.

This quote is also a potential issue:



Now as I said, I'm reading HF as town. But the issue with this quote is a few things:

1 not an interest to solve the game himself
2 HF obv not confirmed town - if both are scum, this could be quite dangerous
3 Could be a scum trying to take advantage of a possible incorrect read by HF

On these two quotes, he doesn't look so good, but let's see if he picks things up.

On February 01 2015 04:14 Half the Sky wrote:


Chez, yes, you might be right about the bolded but my issue with these quotes is that you don't appear to be thinking critically - in this case, I had to answer that question for you.

Also you didn't answer this question. You asked Marv whether he's a distro, when your vote was on him at that time. Where did that come from?

On February 01 2015 04:28 Chezitwo wrote:

How so? The answers were clear and right here.

Can you point me to where I voted for Marv?

On February 01 2015 05:04 Half the Sky wrote:

You did not answer!!

On January 31 2015 20:23 Chezitwo wrote:
marvellosity: Do you think Fecalfeast is a distro?

On January 31 2015 20:34 Chezitwo wrote:

Looking at his other programs... It makes me sad.
##Unvote

On February 01 2015 18:30 Trfel wrote:

Hi Chezitwo.

Do you mind reading and commenting on the case I posted two posts above your post?

On February 01 2015 18:49 Trfel wrote:

First sicklucker, then Chezinu, then Palmar.... next thing you know, maybe Robik will come back.

I will look at the Holyflare/Damdred interactions later.

Palmar, who do you want to lynch?

On February 01 2015 18:51 rsoultin wrote:


Chez the Chez.

A faulty device may try to become favored if his programming is protected by a firewall that can only be...

Lol I don't speak geek well enough for this.

Statistically speaking he can go on being townread practically indefinitely as a claimed blue except under unusual circumstances, and as such, it's not a bad move for scum at all. Plus look at the specific role he claimed. Especially as godfather, but even as general scum, he can be overlooked without being required to do anything.

This leads me to want to treat him as a general VT.

And as a general VT, robik deserves death cause, as FF said...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Robik for lynch

On February 02 2015 03:41 rsoultin wrote:


Chezzy, your insta!meta-quotes and vote on Palmar caught Marv's attention after having to explain FF's play to you, and I'm inclined to think it's weird how quick they came, too. How do you know Palmar and not FF?

On February 02 2015 03:42 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, damdy. Switching to Eden. Still want your response, Chez.

I was townreading you. You're making me sad

On February 02 2015 03:47 rsoultin wrote:


How long have you been playing on this site, Chez?

On February 02 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:


Your self-vote doesn't seem like a mafia play, but it's not a good town play either if you're town, imo.

Well, gonna have to let the vets sort out the veracity of your claims on Palmar and FF. I've actually liked your play so far, so this and the long absence were really the only questionmarks. Do you have the time to catch up some and give us updated reads/comments?

On February 02 2015 03:53 Damdred wrote:
I really want people to read my case read Edens filter.

I keep going back and Trfel whats so good about the pressure does it go anywhere? Is there any true conclusion about SL from it? does SL reasoning make sense for how it was dropped and eden just moved on to me?

On February 02 2015 04:00 Trfel wrote:

I don't think you are among the top lynch candidates at the moment. I would prefer if you spend maybe an hour or so catching up, and then discuss closer to the deadline?

On February 02 2015 04:07 Trfel wrote:

Your playstyle makes it difficult. But I get the feeling that you are reading the game and putting some effort.

Mostly, I feel that an extra day to read you would make the read far, far, far more accurate.

On February 02 2015 04:13 Damdred wrote:


Another thing to consider is that marv voting on you is rather new to the thread and i'm trying to push eden through since then.

On February 02 2015 04:21 Damdred wrote:
If we go down this line of t hought there are two distinct possibilities.

Mafia is not active in the thread when it was going on as you indicated earlier or mafia want to keep you around for a mislynch later as they think you can't clear yourself through play. If we assume you are town and marv is town anyway

On February 02 2015 04:23 rsoultin wrote:


I'd disregard #1, if only because I don't think anyone knows who you are?

So the real question is if all the wagons are town, who is scum? Or is scum just not here right now?

On February 02 2015 04:25 Trfel wrote:
I still feel like the mafia thread presence is low. I can't explain it. But that's what I think.

Unless of course it's Holyflare or a serious marvellosity....... but please please please let that not be true.

On February 02 2015 04:30 Trfel wrote:
Damdred is town because he claimed blue. Not sure if you saw that. I am confidently townreading marvellosity, though there is still a very small chance he is scum (and unless something happens to make me doubt him, I think that chance is so small I am willing to forfeit the game in that case).

On February 02 2015 04:30 rsoultin wrote:


Hm. I'm inclined to think marv is town, too, just by how he's been interacting with me. (Both when he suspected me and just now.) HF's response to the suspicion was basically "hey, I was thinking that, too" yet I don't recall seeing anything further from him. That's probably the most suspicious reaction in-thread imo.

Palmar I can't read. Trolling. I'd be happy to lynch him just so I don't have to think about him anymore, but the Eden case is decent and lines up with what I've been feeling about Eden all game.

On February 02 2015 04:33 Trfel wrote:
Here's my analysis of the Eden1892 case.

First, I will give Eden1892 a slight town lean for all of the not wanting to get killed on Night 1 stuff. It just seems like a really weird play as scum. He's already shown that he can play a fine scum game, so why would he do all this talk about playing badly to avoid getting killed Night 1 if he was scum? It's just adding an unnecessary risk.

While he says that he is going to play poorly to not get killed on Night 1, he also shows signs of reading the thread and thinking about it. See his comment on Holyflare's joke case on Damdred, see his questioning of sicklucker on his "my meta says" comment.

The next major thing is his progression on his sicklucker read. He starts by questioning sicklucker's "my meta says" statement, which is a good pressure. Then he says that he is willing to vote sicklucker for not answering the question, and then says that sicklucker actually did answer it. I reread that section twice and I didn't see sicklucker's answer in between these posts (though I guess I could have missed it......). I'm assuming that Eden1892 realized that sicklucker actually did NOT answer this question, and that is why he was willing to follow Holyflare and vote sicklucker to help add pressure. Therefore, I can accept Eden1892's explanation, though the inconsistency that Holyflare brought up still has some merit.

On February 02 2015 04:36 Half the Sky wrote:
and I think Chez did post a quote from a game from last year.

On February 02 2015 04:39 rsoultin wrote:


Mmm...bah lol. Can I just say right now that I absolutely hate Day 1?

Okay, so either Palmar is town and Eden's alignment doesn't matter or Palmar is scum and Eden is probably town. This isn't getting me anywhere.

On February 02 2015 04:42 Holyflare wrote:


Yes, the weird meta thing about how palmar is town is still weird.

On February 02 2015 04:45 Trfel wrote:

Hrmph. Seems like no one likes it.

What I don't understand is why everyone is picking my analysis, while I arrived at the same conclusion that they did?

On February 02 2015 04:46 Holyflare wrote:


When marv said palmars meta makes him very likely mafia and eden defended him saying he was town because he did something that was nothing like his town game.

On February 02 2015 04:53 Trfel wrote:
Ok, from my experience shadowing Artanis in Imperial Mafia, playing Chezitwo like this seems extremely plausible.

On February 02 2015 05:01 Eden1892 wrote:
I am so disappointed.

I could have sworn Chezitwo was Chezinu.

On February 02 2015 05:08 marvellosity wrote:
if artanis is chez then he should be mafia.

On February 02 2015 05:14 marvellosity wrote:

he is good and his play has been pathetic, that's all

On February 02 2015 05:24 Holyflare wrote:


i did/do/still do?

On February 02 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:


no you weren't I moved you down in a new list and all of this was based on me thinking you were chezinu instead, as soon as fecalfeast started acting more towny I suspected you because the only thing you had posted was about fecalfeast and it was wrong and chez did the same thing in a game I played with him where I agreed with his early read and he afk'd

now you're artanis I just haven't put any thought into it yet

On February 02 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
YOU CLAIMED SCUM
YOU CLAIMED SCUM

THATS NOT HOW TO PLAY BLUE, YOU DONT DO REACTION TESTS IN THE LAST HOUR OF A LYNCH CYCLE

On February 02 2015 05:05 Eden1892 wrote:
HtS just vote me. It sucks that we lost the Rb but that's life

On February 02 2015 05:31 Holyflare wrote:


I was in bed and made an off-handed comment about you sure? I fail to see when I follow marv when he says he isn't even sure about you.

On February 02 2015 05:39 Holyflare wrote:


so what?

On February 02 2015 05:41 Holyflare wrote:


please just catch up with the game instead you're in some kind of weird separate thread

On February 02 2015 05:42 marvellosity wrote:

this is why we carry on

On February 02 2015 05:43 Trfel wrote:

I think the past 24 hours have showed that this game keeps going 24/7. So you won't really get this opportunity.

On February 02 2015 05:44 Holyflare wrote:


you wouldn't be asking me questions if you were even paying attention to real time discussion........................

On February 02 2015 06:03 marvellosity wrote:
so we just kill robik and palmar and see how we're doing or something

On February 02 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Based on the claims, the last scum is amongst HF, Damdred or Robik.

I'm 99.9% sure it's Robik.

On February 02 2015 06:16 Trfel wrote:

You
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Me
Rsoultin
Half the Sky
LightningStrike
Damdred

GG

On February 02 2015 06:22 Trfel wrote:

Er, this is embarrasing....

I was being sarcastic?

Yeah, yeah, I'm Romanian, I get it. I'll go cry in a corner now.

On February 02 2015 06:23 LightningStrike wrote:
The last time Tfrel was this forgetful he was scum.

On February 02 2015 06:28 marvellosity wrote:

i'm voting him tomorrow

just so you know

On February 02 2015 06:33 Chezitwo wrote:
I want to play a game of Vivax mini mafia now where everyone roleplays Vivax.

On February 02 2015 06:37 Palmar wrote:
You should roleplay me Artanis.

On February 02 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote:


This better be a town claim or I'm concerned for your immediate neighbors :0

On February 02 2015 07:02 marvellosity wrote:
you been hacking my hard drive again?

On February 02 2015 07:03 marvellosity wrote:

haha, i promise i don't.

the vivax textfile is real though :p

On February 02 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
wtf

i just opened it and it's blank

who deleted all my swearing

On February 02 2015 07:06 marvellosity wrote:

i'd take a screenshot, but there's too many things i don't want to be seen

On February 02 2015 07:11 Trfel wrote:

But we laugh by lynching marvellosity.

On February 02 2015 07:21 Trfel wrote:

That's cruel

At least Artanis will defend me every game now, right?

On February 02 2015 07:38 IAmRobik wrote:

Concede? why would i concede? lolololol. I'm so fucking town it hurts

On February 02 2015 07:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh, I'm obviously not blue. Dumbasses

On February 02 2015 07:46 marvellosity wrote:
you hardclaimed.

tough

On February 02 2015 07:46 IAmRobik wrote:
HEY. DO WE HAVE A COP CLAIM? WE HAVE A DOC RIGHT? WHY DOESN'T THE COP FUCKING CHECK ME THEN....DO IT. THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE DUMB FUCKTWATS WHO LYNCH A FUCKING TOWNIE BECAUSE OF A FAKE CLAIMED ROLE

On February 02 2015 07:52 Palmar wrote:
how do you not think I'm town Trfel?

On February 02 2015 07:57 Trfel wrote:

Yeah, I figured that out a long time ago. I'm not a complete dunce

On February 02 2015 08:02 IAmRobik wrote:

that's fucking dumb. If not for everyone fucking claiming, I would have taken a fucking bullet...EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON WHO HAS EVER PLAYED WITH ME INSTANTLY CALLED ME TOWN. EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE. ONE.

YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING BLATANTLY OBVIOUS THAT I WAS TOWN AND I'M STILL TOWN.

LYNCHING ME BECAUSE I CLAIMED TO TAKE A BULLET IS FUCKING DUMB.

On February 02 2015 08:05 IAmRobik wrote:

NO....I DIDN'T MAKE A FUCKING BAD DECISION. YOU ARE ALL MAKING A FUCKING BAD DECISION JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO FUCKING SHITTY AT THIS GAME TO REALIZE WHY WHAT I DID WAS FUCKING GOOD. TAKING A BULLET AS VT WHEN YOU'RE UNIVERSALLY TOWNREAD ISN'T FUCKING BAD.

THINK ABOUT THIS SCENARIO.

I'M IN PYP, I CONCEDE AS MAFIA INSTANTLY WHEN MY MAFIA PARTNER DIES D1 AND THE OTHER GETS COP CHECKED D2. THEN I'M PLAYING ANOTHER MAFIA GAME IN HAMMERTIME WHERE I'M TRY HARDING. EVERY FUCKING PERSON HERE KNOWS THAT I FUCKING HATE PLAYING MAFIA. YOU REALLY THINK THAT I HATE PLAYING MAFIA NAD THEN CHOOSE TO TRYHARD TO MAFIA GAMES AT ONCE? YOU KNOW WHAT? NO. I DON'T. YOU KNOW WHY? BECUASE IT'S FUCKING HARD. IT'S DAMN NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU FUCKING HATE SCUMMING TO FUCKING BEGIN WITH

On February 02 2015 08:38 Trfel wrote:
Ugh. Hard game again.

I really do have to go out though. First places to look are Half the Sky and Holyflare. I remember Half the Sky seeming townie earlier, but that wasn't a reread, and that was pre-flips. I am confident in Half the Sky's ability to act towny and avoid being mislynched when she is town, so I expect to see that here. Half the Sky, if you are town, don't let me down.

I'm wondering if lynching Holyflare would be good. Holyflare getting a cop claim could be a really good way for him to avoid the lynch. And with my claim and Damdred's claim, there may not be another blue to counterclaim him.

On February 02 2015 08:53 marvellosity wrote:
it's tempting to go with HF first because it's more satisfying

On February 02 2015 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn this game just got harder with HTS claiming.

On February 02 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:

Agreed, I figured that out after I posted.

If Holyflare is actually green and fakeclaimed cop this game would have to go down as the funniest game in mafia history.

On February 02 2015 08:56 marvellosity wrote:
bit weird that HF didn't give up earlier if he's mafia

this game is so bizarre

On February 02 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote:

didn't make sense when there were 4 claims in the thread earlier for ages...

Modifications - pick one at random:
1) Remove one Linux Distro and add one Favored Distro.
2) Use setup as-is.
3) Remove one Favored Distro and add one Linux Distro if possible.