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On February 01 2015 18:54 Chezitwo wrote: Would a faulty device in league with other faulty devices present itself as a favored distro, then sit back without trying to upgrade itself? I am not sure... Maybe not. Robik generally AFKs as scum, though, according to those who know his meta better than I do. And as I said, if the general way to handle these things is to let it go unless blues are counter-claimed, it's not that big a risk. If we let this particular one go, he can ride all the way through because of the potential for 3 blues in this game and no need to lynch into them until a 4th emerges. | ||
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On February 01 2015 18:59 Fecalfeast wrote: why are you reading your own filter? Palmar is here taunting us while robik is ded I really am equally happy with a Palmar or Robik lynch, Trfel, to be quite honest. Happy to push for you especially if you're going to leave your vote there, but the more logical thing unless you don't believe Palmar is scum is to wait to push Robik Day 2 if we still wan to do that. | ||
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I can also sit here and tell y'all how there is no good town motivation for Robik's immediate claim Day 1 (and there isn't) though that doesn't actually preclude him from doing it as town, cause he can still be just an idiot who then AFKd. The honest truth though is that I genuinely think Palmar and Robik are equally good lynches here. In some ways I'd argue Palmar is better cause he's not the blue claim and he's actually been in the thread doing jack-all vice Robik who has demonstrably not been around anywhere. I do agree with Trfel's intuition on that claim, though...it matches with mine. I can see a ton more reason for scum to make that claim like that than town. If y'all want to lynch either of them, great. I do not want a blue who can ride out his claim the entire game solely because it's possible to have 3 blue roles this game (while actually more likely that there are only 2, statistically) because town is too scared to lynch someone for doing jack shit after claiming. He cannot and should not be in MYLO without stepping up his game. tldr: Read Trfel's case on Robik if you're not good with the Palmar lynch. I think if we lynch either of those we've got a great chance of catching scum today. | ||
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Damdred, can you answer that? HF? | ||
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On February 02 2015 00:46 Damdred wrote: I agree in this setupwhat robik did is the safest thing for mafia gf to do. However we can have other information help us in lynching him another day. See I don't disagree with this at all. Mostly because I've been advocating treating him as a regular player instead of a blue, and someone generally AFK I'd probably give another day over someone like Palmar who's here but not playing. Who do you want to lynch, Damdred? | ||
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On February 02 2015 00:54 Palmar wrote: I like how everyone is trying to kill me over robik because he's a blueclaim when I've claimed gentoo like 3 times now. Also ##vote holyflare wth is Gentoo and how does HF being mad at Damdy make him scum? Damdy, if blue, claimed way early under minimal pressure and it was a bad move...one that I feel was genuinely emotional but I can see people being pissed at him. | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:08 Damdred wrote: RS I can understand people being upset at the claim which is ok. But do you think the way hf is reacting to everything else I posted over the top? I don't see the point in y'all arguing over whether of not you defended yourself well yesterday, either, and got onto him for it last night. It's moot right now. As for his general attitude...it reads to me as ego-driven and argumentative. If that was all he was doing and he wasn't trying to find today's lynch, by all means, call him scum, but I can see this from a town HF easily. Granted I don't have as much experience with him. Unless you come up with something insanely huge about him, though, I don't see him being today's lynch. Do you? That's probably what you should be concentrating on right now. | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote: Like this sentence here is just fantastic. First of all, most likely LS fails to properly read that when I say "He is so mad at Damdred" I'm talking about HF to HTS, which is why the gender is correct. But what if this assumption is incorrect? We can also take the post to mean that LS thinks that I need to be aware of HTS being a girl while talking to her, as if I should change my presentation based on what, and given the "sorry" at the beginning there it implies that if we assume that he did understand that I was talking about HF, he doesn't expect HTS to quite get my argument simply because she is a girl? I think an alternative to explain this option is "Sorry palmar, but she's not gonna get that, please present simpler arguments a woman could understand". Then there is the possibility the sorry is aimed at me, as in "you poor soul, you're talking to women here, you should tread carefully", in which case LS clearly thinks of the gender as not only relevant but also something to treat with the utmost care because it could have dire consequences if I don't. Thirdly, maybe the "sorry" is aimed at himself, and he just feels incredibly saddened by the situation, as if a conversation between two people is extremely sad if those people happen to be of a different gender. "I'm so sad this conversation is happening between these people of differing genders". And lastly, maybe it's aimed at my intelligence, in kinda the same way southerners say "Bless your heart". As if he is simply pointing out my perceived ignorance that he somehow managed to extract from a post that had nothing to do with either HTS or rsoultin. "Bless your heart Palmar, but didn't you know they were women?" Wow... Shit fluff post alert. Is there a point to this? | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote: He was making a statement about my post towards him. Oh, I see that. Trust me, LS. There's just no earthly reason for that post, unless it's to push you based on one of his many possible interpretations of your post. Unless he's got something else hidden away in there that I'm just missing. | ||
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Of course I'm a benevolent woodland sprite from fantasy town. How much weed have you smoked today? | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:37 LightningStrike wrote: rsoultin why you voting Palmar? For reasons I already stated. I'm happy with either a Robik or a Palmar lynch, but if one of them deserves some extra time to shape up it's Robik. Clearly Palmar is determined to be a useless troll today. Hey, but you made me chuckle this game, Palmar, so there's that. | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:44 marvellosity wrote: honestly the fact that the game is very hard to figure out is a decent argument for HF being mafia. Actually it's a really terrible argument but it's kinda a good argument. not sure i want to take the punt today though... maybe Chezitwo is a good lynch after all? And you are getting cold feet now because...? | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:47 marvellosity wrote: well, it's kinda a combination of terrible associative reads, like this: I think Chezitwo is kinda suspicious, he's voting Palmar I think sl is kinda suspicious, he's voting Palmar I'm kinda suspicious of HF atm, and the one thing Palmar has done is attack HF (the Damdred stuff) Okay, those actually aren't terrible reasons. Maybe my read on Chez is wrong, but every time I've gone through his filter I've liked it :/ SL is SL lol >< I'm getting a town vibe off him but I can always be wrong about SL. I kind of want to see a case though even if you said you're not going through filters. Chez' is really short. It should be easy to go through his at least. | ||
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On February 02 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote: like give me 3 mafia rsoultin. are you gonna say Palmar, Robik, +1? that's gonna be pretty meh. who are you wrong on? because you're guaranteed to be wrong on a couple at this stage. Honestly it's probably not both Palmar and Robik, which is why I'm going with the one that I have more than just paranoia, AFKing and a bad claim on. I know some people search out whole scumteams, but I just find when I'm doing that it's a lot of confirmation bias and bs, so I'm trying to concentrate on one at a time. Eden's pretty crappy defense of Palmar, though, doesn't make the rest of his lackluster play look any better, and regardless of the flip I'm going to be looking at him hard to see if there's any good reason to think he's town Day 2. I'm not any further than that right now. The last few games I pick up steam once I get voting to analyze, to check against my reads, cause Day 1 reads just usually aren't stellar, at least for me. | ||
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On February 02 2015 02:12 marvellosity wrote: you're missing my point. but i cba to explain it. i didn't ask you because i wanted you to figure out the scumteam. like... say you list out the people you're confident are town, the people you think are scum, and the people in between. certainly there are the people in the in-between you're wrong about, and one of those could be chezitwo. or he could be town. who the fuck knows really. Yeah, I could be wrong about Chez. Problem is, I've already looked through his filter 3-4 times when others have brought it up: SL, FF, etc. I'm not getting a scum vibe from it. If others can quote and explain where they're getting the scumread, maybe it'll click. | ||
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On February 02 2015 02:14 marvellosity wrote: there is one thing about chezitwo i guess, if i had to pull something out of a hat: he voted Palmar on a metapoint from the middle of last year, yet never checked FF's meta at all until I mentioned it. Okay, let me check that. For some reason I thought he was just sheeping you because he'd townread you, heh. | ||
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On February 02 2015 02:44 Holyflare wrote: what game is that quote from btw I searched for it and I can't find it anywhere? Something played July of last year? But on a second look at the context, there were 3 minutes between when Palmar claimed not to have opened that role PM and chez came up with those quotes. Unless he knew what Palmar was going to say beforehand, and they're both mafia, that speed is insane regardless of alignment. So that leads back to whether or not it's reasonable for Chez to know a single "meta point" on Palmar better than FF? I don't know how long FF has been playing, or how well-known he is, but even I know he doesn't play much and has to be strong-armed into it most games. Unless this wasn't the case before, I can see why Marv is finding it weird. | ||
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