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On February 02 2015 04:47 Half the Sky wrote:This is tough. Using my knowledge of his super town play in Hammertime, I'm more inclined to scumread him on this play, but given his ranting in that game, I can understand him wanting to tone it down. Since we don't know whether it could be a cover, it is why I was treating his rant as NAI. I'm still feeling worse about Robik, but another angle looking at Eden is whether he could give his one good point for the day (like that SL read, I mean a lot of people at that time were scumreading SL) and figured that if he was just good enough to not get lynched, he could afk. His scum play in NYE party mafia was just that. He wasn't townie, but did just enough or convinced just enough to not get lynched. I had recapped the point on Eden how after the point on SL it was a point on defending Rasputin in the face of 3 of us questioning her but a scum Eden would have perfect information such that he could do that without suspicion. Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 00:54 Half the Sky wrote:
The key points I'm gleaning from Eden's filter (from the large posts):
1 The meta claim issue with SL, which he pushed on. (page 2-3 of his filter)
2 Comments on Rasputin after her questioning of Damdred on read progression
3 Defending Palmar based on Hammertime
4 Recapping SL's post
1 and 2 seemed like thought out concepts but afterwards I see what you mean Damdred...
But on account of #3, I feel Palmar can troll as either alignment, and I don't like Robik's claim. I can see why Eden would be a good lynch for today. I was going to filter dive Robik before leaving but let me look at both those two now.
One problem here, HtS.
Last time we talked you still "suspected" me.
I know I'm town. How do you?
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There's basically no way I'd abandon Chez meta if I were scum after Imperial so yeah.
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HTS you go into great detail about why eden is possible scum? But then you decide robik is the better lynch if you had to lynch this second with a lot less information? Why?
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Ok, from my experience shadowing Artanis in Imperial Mafia, playing Chezitwo like this seems extremely plausible.
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On February 02 2015 04:53 Trfel wrote:
Ok, from my experience shadowing Artanis in Imperial Mafia, playing Chezitwo like this seems extremely plausible.
I don't think you really need to speculate at this point anymore. I even accidentally posted a smiley under my normal nick earlier in the thread.
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On February 02 2015 04:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:47 Half the Sky wrote:This is tough. Using my knowledge of his super town play in Hammertime, I'm more inclined to scumread him on this play, but given his ranting in that game, I can understand him wanting to tone it down. Since we don't know whether it could be a cover, it is why I was treating his rant as NAI. I'm still feeling worse about Robik, but another angle looking at Eden is whether he could give his one good point for the day (like that SL read, I mean a lot of people at that time were scumreading SL) and figured that if he was just good enough to not get lynched, he could afk. His scum play in NYE party mafia was just that. He wasn't townie, but did just enough or convinced just enough to not get lynched. I had recapped the point on Eden how after the point on SL it was a point on defending Rasputin in the face of 3 of us questioning her but a scum Eden would have perfect information such that he could do that without suspicion. On February 02 2015 00:54 Half the Sky wrote:
The key points I'm gleaning from Eden's filter (from the large posts):
1 The meta claim issue with SL, which he pushed on. (page 2-3 of his filter)
2 Comments on Rasputin after her questioning of Damdred on read progression
3 Defending Palmar based on Hammertime
4 Recapping SL's post
1 and 2 seemed like thought out concepts but afterwards I see what you mean Damdred...
But on account of #3, I feel Palmar can troll as either alignment, and I don't like Robik's claim. I can see why Eden would be a good lynch for today. I was going to filter dive Robik before leaving but let me look at both those two now. One problem here, HtS. Last time we talked you still "suspected" me. I know I'm town. How do you?
And after that I had said (though not interacting with you) that you were looking better. I had even unvoted you.
You bolded the part in my quote, if you are wondering that, that is a theoretical on my end. As to if Eden were scum, why #2 in my quote wouldn't make him any more towny.
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Lol, if it's Art that explains why all his posts made sense xP
I only get about 50-60% of Slam's...if I'm lucky.
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Writing in riddles is so hard. Chez is truly a skilled man.
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On February 02 2015 04:52 Damdred wrote:
HTS you go into great detail about why eden is possible scum? But then you decide robik is the better lynch if you had to lynch this second with a lot less information? Why?
I am struggling with why Robik would claim blue so early in the game and AFK the whole weekend. That's my biggest beef. It reminds me of what Celestial did in Newbie LX, as I said before.
Which is why I'm filter diving both again.
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Robik rolled scum in both Hammertime and PYP. I can imagine him going for a play like this and afk as scum actually.
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The Celestial situation is totally different and i'm baffled why you would bring it up here. Celestial was under scrutiny during the later stages of the game d2/3 and claimed medic after a vet flipped to get out of being lynched.
Robik claimed in his first post, the differences are staggering. So why does it remind you of that exactly?
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On February 02 2015 04:56 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:51 rsoultin wrote:On February 02 2015 04:47 Half the Sky wrote:This is tough. Using my knowledge of his super town play in Hammertime, I'm more inclined to scumread him on this play, but given his ranting in that game, I can understand him wanting to tone it down. Since we don't know whether it could be a cover, it is why I was treating his rant as NAI. I'm still feeling worse about Robik, but another angle looking at Eden is whether he could give his one good point for the day (like that SL read, I mean a lot of people at that time were scumreading SL) and figured that if he was just good enough to not get lynched, he could afk. His scum play in NYE party mafia was just that. He wasn't townie, but did just enough or convinced just enough to not get lynched. I had recapped the point on Eden how after the point on SL it was a point on defending Rasputin in the face of 3 of us questioning her but a scum Eden would have perfect information such that he could do that without suspicion. On February 02 2015 00:54 Half the Sky wrote:
The key points I'm gleaning from Eden's filter (from the large posts):
1 The meta claim issue with SL, which he pushed on. (page 2-3 of his filter)
2 Comments on Rasputin after her questioning of Damdred on read progression
3 Defending Palmar based on Hammertime
4 Recapping SL's post
1 and 2 seemed like thought out concepts but afterwards I see what you mean Damdred...
But on account of #3, I feel Palmar can troll as either alignment, and I don't like Robik's claim. I can see why Eden would be a good lynch for today. I was going to filter dive Robik before leaving but let me look at both those two now. One problem here, HtS. Last time we talked you still "suspected" me. I know I'm town. How do you? And after that I had said (though not interacting with you) that you were looking better. I had even unvoted you. You bolded the part in my quote, if you are wondering that, that is a theoretical on my end. As to if Eden were scum, why #2 in my quote wouldn't make him any more towny.
You did unvote me, you're right, and I don't know that I can be bothered to look up the last time you said you suspected me after you unvoted me, but I'm pretty sure it exists. We'll go with a hypothetical for now because I think others are asking you more relevant things.
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Damdred, I think that we are both suffering from confirmation bias.
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I am so disappointed.
I could have sworn Chezitwo was Chezinu.
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I could see robik doing this as scum to, but I think eden is the better lynch today.
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On February 02 2015 04:59 Chezitwo wrote:
Robik rolled scum in both Hammertime and PYP. I can imagine him going for a play like this and afk as scum actually.
100%
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On February 02 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, I think that we are both suffering from confirmation bias.
How so?
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On February 02 2015 04:58 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2015 04:52 Damdred wrote:
HTS you go into great detail about why eden is possible scum? But then you decide robik is the better lynch if you had to lynch this second with a lot less information? Why? I am struggling with why Robik would claim blue so early in the game and AFK the whole weekend. That's my biggest beef. It reminds me of what Celestial did in Newbie LX, as I said before. Which is why I'm filter diving both again.
I had Celestial speared to the wall and the rest of the thread was up his grill right along with me. You were in that Obs QT HtS. I have a hard time thinking you actually believe what you're saying right now.
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Damdred, I'll elaborate on his play in Hammertime.
He spends D1 pushing the shit out of GlowingBear with little evidence. I was scumreading GB for things I took out of context as one of the towniest people in the thread. Robik was able to push him on something relatively minor, but after D1 came back and just repeated the same push on GB. Never came under suspicion after that and AFKed as the rest of the townies were pointing at each other.
We were endgamed last night.
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On February 02 2015 05:01 Eden1892 wrote:
I am so disappointed.
I could have sworn Chezitwo was Chezinu.
Don't worry, I'll play like Chezinu again on D2.
Shame you won't be around to see it 
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