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On February 01 2015 11:16 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 11:14 rsoultin wrote:
You've pressured marv three times when he was town, he gave up all those times, and he was town all those times? Like whats your angel here. You know we both ment mafia instead of town.n. Its scummy
It's not an angle.
Trfel was asking why you didn't want to pressure marv but said that palmar should.
I was under the impression that you'd pressured marv when he was town and he gave up...which is the part of my post you bolded. Then you said it was three times? Either my facts are wrong or you didn't realize I was talking about you there. Or both.
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, SL, I don't see anything you're doing as being so much worse or different than all the other games I've played with you when you were town.
Have to ask, though...what makes you think robik claiming named vt makes him town?
He's got no presence in the thread whatsoever -_- despite crowing that we should follow his lead.
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I still don't think he's a good Day 1 lynch cause of the claim, even without reason to believe he's just got stuff going on irl...
I guess I just don't see how him liking being VT precludes him from fake-claiming it. Really, though, I don't see a good scum or town motivation for it. It's just kinda there.
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On February 01 2015 11:35 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, how strongly are you scumreading Damdred?
I'll be gone for a short while.
Strongly enough that I don't think I'm down for a lynch that isn't either him or Palmar. His responses to not just my questions but several others' aren't making me feel any better about him.
They don't even have the benefit of actually being reasonable explanations that I have to decide whether or not he's lying about...they simply aren't answers at all. Which means the problems I had with his play earlier still stand, particularly in regard to Palmar.
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Lol, eden is the only one who really defended me and I'm still a bit suspicious of him anyway, though not to the same degree as I am of the other players I've mentioned. Maybe this makes me a lunatic.
Someone saying they're happy to be playing the game is just so not enough for me to read them town -_- @trfel
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On February 01 2015 12:27 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry the push on me feels so idiotic. If you want me to play with super static reads that aren't whimsical at points then I'll just stop playing mafia
Rs is borderline strike three for me as I've said a few times who look the worst for me.
Anyway I don't feel a palmar lynch and would feel comfortable lynching into these people
Trfel
rsoultin
sicklyrker
hf
It's not about static reads. It's about why they're changing, or rather, the lack of any obvious reason for them to change, particularly in regard to Palmar.
It's about basically browbeating SL for townreading LS, listing off all the reasons LS is scummy (which is why he shouldn't be townread by SL), then saying you're okay with LS.
At points I've agreed with you, but they're few and far between, and I'm not really feeling any of those lynches you've got down there. What's your problem with HF other than his questioning you?
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On February 01 2015 12:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Someone give me a filter to look at or something I'm bored.
RNG it?
Have you seen my points on Damdred? If they're not valid, would you tell me why?
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On February 01 2015 12:39 Damdred wrote:
Basically. RS has been throwing misinformation around all game and seemingly playing towards not reading the thread for example when he was asking Marv why he wanted to lynch palmar when it was clearly stated in marvs filter and the thread obviously. RS claims to have missed it.
He then went on to mid inform the thread about how I was reading ls, which got him strike one with me. You did as well but you found your mistake. RS repeats that mistake later by again misinforming the thread in the case how I am reading ls.
He is hounding me about me going from saying I would lynch palmar to not lynching. I mean that's just preference in not sure what else to be said I think there are scummier people and palmar was funny.
if I have to explain it 10 times I will but its bad
On February 01 2015 12:39 Damdred wrote:
Basically. RS has been throwing misinformation around all game and seemingly playing towards not reading the thread for example when he was asking Marv why he wanted to lynch palmar when it was clearly stated in marvs filter and the thread obviously. RS claims to have missed it.
He then went on to mid inform the thread about how I was reading ls, which got him strike one with me. You did as well but you found your mistake. RS repeats that mistake later by again misinforming the thread in the case how I am reading ls.
He is hounding me about me going from saying I would lynch palmar to not lynching. I mean that's just preference in not sure what else to be said I think there are scummier people and palmar was funny.
if I have to explain it 10 times I will but its bad
I'm not stopping anyone from reading your filter.
I'm not saying I give a flying hoot if you scumread someone earlier and townread them later. I'm saying it's weird to attack SL with how many ways LS looks scummy, saying SL is scummy for townreading him, and practically in the same breath saying you see nothing wrong with LS. That does not make sense to me. That you townread him later for decent reasons notwithstanding.
So all you can give me for your read change on Palmar is that he said something funny? I still don't understand that explanation, but okay, maybe you're really that fickle. I don't know.
Can you explain your read on HF please?
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On February 01 2015 12:55 Damdred wrote:
I don't get why palmar is so hard to wrap your head around, I didn't say he's town like you are inferring I said I didn't want to lynch him stop being dense.
Idk why you are being purposefully dense about ls. SL gave a question mark a hard town for nothing ok.
I'm not purposefully being dense about anyone, Damdred -_- Though that word is used to describe me so often lately I may just use that as a smurf if I ever make one.
Not wanting to lynch someone you could lynch a second ago solely because they said something funny is just...eh. I've beaten this point to death. I was hoping you had something better cause I don't think that'll ever make sense to me.
I get that on SL. I pressured him, too, for similar reasons.
It's just you sad what...that he LS wasn't scumhunting. That he wasn't acting like he does when he's town. That he didn't have 3 townreads already based on meta...then nah you're okay with LS when you're asked. Just finding it hard to buy that those arguments don't add up to at least a scumlean. What more would you need from LS to call him scum?
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On February 01 2015 13:00 Damdred wrote:
And hf isn't really trying to figure anyone out honestly. He's more concerned about being 100 percent right and saying he's misread or joking about reads than actually push something sustained.
His push on me was more clinical than anyone else's. I wasn't the only one he did that with, but I can't really remember who the other was at this point.
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On February 01 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go.. I'm not marrying but the push on me is horrid, hf should know its bad and is just spectating and not leading. Trfrl is just sheeping onto something that is easish to push at this point and RS is tunneled. out of this RS is most likely town sadly.
It's Day 1. Everything's horrid. Nitpicking my HTS read to death when most of my defense was just quoting myself or repeating what I'd already said is horrid.
I don't get what you're doing.
But okay, I will pull back on you to give you space, cause right now it looks like you're just scumming people pushing you...and SL.
Do you have any reason to believe the people you are scumreading are scum that isn't Damdred-centric? That includes reading (or not reading) posts that you've written. Your initial case on Trfel was before he re-entered the thread.
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On February 01 2015 13:12 Half the Sky wrote:Okay here are my thoughts on the exchange. Had to read the thread and filters several times... Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 05:55 rsoultin wrote:Okay, I guess what I really don't understand is the progression of Damdred's read on Palmar. On January 31 2015 23:22 Damdred wrote:
Edens posts are interesting, they make sense. I actually like them right now, explained himself then went to pressure sl. I probably wouldn't lynch Eden today then if he keeps this up.
I might be willing to lynch Palmar On February 01 2015 00:04 Damdred wrote:
Hts posts are good I think.
Also Palmar is a policy lynch at best it's pretty obvious. On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it? So is it a policy lynch or isn't it? On February 01 2015 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Also rs marv said his reason in his filter about Palmar begging out of a lynch? You don't like his reasons or missed it? Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer. On February 01 2015 04:54 Damdred wrote:
Ok so Palmar response is great. Mr. Lynch/Palomar isn't getting lynched today. Look up super bowl interview with lynch, so great.
Catching up Or this -_- I mean, seriously, I can just say I don't want to be lynched over and over, too. Maybe I'm missing something but this really doesn't make any sense to me. What I'm going to try and do here is analyse what Damdred said in the context of where these quotes were in the thread. The problem I have with Damdred's first quote (filter page 2, thread page 25) is "he might be willing to lynch Palmar" but there's no reason given. Amongst the other reasons cited in thread before Damdred posts is a meta read cited by Chez, Marv's read on him (looks like it's PoE based since he had nothing on others), before Damdred says "I might be willing to lynch". So I cannot tell at face value whether Damdred is sheeping what appears to be scum reads that others are making on page 24. When I say I think Palmar's policy, that's when he says the same thing (second quote posted here) Only after that time Damdred posts the begging out part. But Rasputin, I see this post by Damdred, and seeing your response in quote, why was this concern not resolved when he posted this seven minutes later? Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:29 rsoultin wrote:
@Damdred
Okay, yeah, I did miss that. Probably because I still have trouble sheeping what others say others' meta are, so tend to disregard it.
However, Palmar appealing to me when I asked marv to explain his read better is kind of funny, given the arrogance I associate with Palmar. Should I just assume you are disagreeing on meta? Another quote that has me a little confused from Damdred: Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him. I can understand the confusion on Damdred's progression but I can't seem to see why Rasputin says this in her quote 5h later Show nested quote +Still don't understand what this has to do with anything, and it's the question I've been trying to get him to answer. ...when she acknowledges him 5m later (per timestamp). Am I misunderstanding something?
Yeah, you missed my question. You can find it in my filter cause I still need to read your other post. I asked him why Palmar being funny had an impact on why he wanted to lynch Palmar or not.
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@HTS
this...
On February 01 2015 03:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him.
Is this a good reason? I'm not following it.
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and this just a few minutes later...
On February 01 2015 04:21 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 03:40 Damdred wrote:On February 01 2015 03:08 rsoultin wrote:
LS' play has gotten progressively more townie as the game went on, imo. I, too, found his read on SL odd, so I can't blame Damdred for that.
If Damdy still thinks that LS is scum, though, I'd like to hear why. People not reading thread get Scum points strike one to hts and rs -_- meh. forgot about your reaction to the FF case anyway, why is palmar making you chuckle significant?
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On February 01 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go.. I'm not marrying but the push on me is horrid, hf should know its bad and is just spectating and not leading. Trfrl is just sheeping onto something that is easish to push at this point and RS is tunneled. out of this RS is most likely town sadly. It's Day 1. Everything's horrid. Nitpicking my HTS read to death when most of my defense was just quoting myself or repeating what I'd already said is horrid. I don't get what you're doing. But okay, I will pull back on you to give you space, cause right now it looks like you're just scumming people pushing you...and SL. Do you have any reason to believe the people you are scumreading are scum that isn't Damdred-centric? That includes reading (or not reading) posts that you've written. Your initial case on Trfel was before he re-entered the thread. I've scum read SL from the start who hasn't pushed me. Trfel was scum read before they re entered thread. And I didn't like trfel after that doesn't have many original thoughts sheeps opportunistic big pile of null etc. Hf hasn't really pushed me just he's not being him. I think the statement in only scim reading people who push me is wrong
I'm sorry? Which of the three of us hasn't been pressuring you? (Maybe it's the wording I'm using.) It's not factually incorrect...I already indicated SL was the outlier.
I need to relook at trfel. I haven't really had the opportunity lately.
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On February 01 2015 13:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Cheers Rasputin.
(In the meantime I've unvoted you. I get the sense what you have been doing is town-driven. Accurate, that's another question...)
Well, if you think I'm wrong, you really should speak up. I'm trying to find reasons Damdred isn't a good lynch, which is why I'm questioning him still.
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FF, specifically what is it about chez?
He hasn't been very active which is an immediate red flag...I did like several of the points he made when he made them, though, like the wordcount one. He reminds me a little of my brother. Sarcastic git. (Which may make me predisposed to like/townread him when I shouldn't).
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HTS and I have both talked about him some, FF, but he did fall beneath the radar as the day went on. Hold on and let me see if I agree with you on the actual content.
@Damdred...eh, we're just gonna disagree there, I think. The more important part was your reads. I'll look into Trfel. You and Trfel can both expect an answer to your questions then (though probably in the morning @.@).
Chez first.
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On February 01 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:
HTS and I have both talked about him some, FF, but he did fall beneath the radar as the day went on. Hold on and let me see if I agree with you on the actual content.
@Damdred...eh, we're just gonna disagree there, I think. The more important part was your reads. I'll look into Trfel. You and Trfel can both expect an answer to your questions then (though probably in the morning @.@).
Chez first.
EBWOP:
I'm sorry, FF, but I really do like Chez this game. His posts are contributing, they're not sheeping others' reads...and yeah maybe they're not as direct as you like but I can follow them easily enough.
He's not someone I would lynch today, certainly not based on this information.
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