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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 04:31 GMT
#1041
On February 01 2015 13:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
everyone give me thoughts on chezzy-2 please his filter is gross


Since you're in here, to be blunt, yours isn't much better, especially when I see this:

On February 01 2015 13:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred looks fine to me. No glaring contradictions or anything. His reads stay consistent, he's scumreading SL...

I'll check eden's push but can someone give me the spark notes on why damdred is scum?


Damdred's progression has been a point of contention, you would go a far way to say in detail why Rasputin is wrong.

Plus, you are saying he looks fine but then you're asking for the notes on why damdred is scum? Why aren't you making your own conclusions?

Start by reading pages 24-26...
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 04:31 GMT
#1042
On February 01 2015 13:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:25 Half the Sky wrote:
Cheers Rasputin.

(In the meantime I've unvoted you. I get the sense what you have been doing is town-driven. Accurate, that's another question...)


Well, if you think I'm wrong, you really should speak up. I'm trying to find reasons Damdred isn't a good lynch, which is why I'm questioning him still.

I don't think that Damdred is a good lynch.

Reading through his filter, it does seem like overall he is trying to discern alignments. I disagree with his methods and results, but it looks like he is generally trying.

I'm still suspicious of him, just like I am suspicious of you (rsoultin), but I don't think either are good lynches for today.

The change in view on a Palmar lynch is probably the biggest point against Damdred, but I don't think that is enough to lynch him.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 04:32 GMT
#1043
FF, specifically what is it about chez?

He hasn't been very active which is an immediate red flag...I did like several of the points he made when he made them, though, like the wordcount one. He reminds me a little of my brother. Sarcastic git. (Which may make me predisposed to like/townread him when I shouldn't).
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 04:32 GMT
#1044
On February 01 2015 13:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
everyone give me thoughts on chezzy-2 please his filter is gross


Since you're in here, to be blunt, yours isn't much better, especially when I see this:

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred looks fine to me. No glaring contradictions or anything. His reads stay consistent, he's scumreading SL...

I'll check eden's push but can someone give me the spark notes on why damdred is scum?


Damdred's progression has been a point of contention, you would go a far way to say in detail why Rasputin is wrong.

Plus, you are saying he looks fine but then you're asking for the notes on why damdred is scum? Why aren't you making your own conclusions?

Start by reading pages 24-26...

If I think he looks fine, why would I not want to know why others are reading him scum? I'd rather see it from all angles... I'll look at the pages in question.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 04:32 GMT
#1045
On February 01 2015 13:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
On February 01 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go..


I'm not marrying but the push on me is horrid, hf should know its bad and is just spectating and not leading. Trfrl is just sheeping onto something that is easish to push at this point and RS is tunneled.

out of this RS is most likely town sadly.


It's Day 1. Everything's horrid. Nitpicking my HTS read to death when most of my defense was just quoting myself or repeating what I'd already said is horrid.

I don't get what you're doing.

But okay, I will pull back on you to give you space, cause right now it looks like you're just scumming people pushing you...and SL.

Do you have any reason to believe the people you are scumreading are scum that isn't Damdred-centric? That includes reading (or not reading) posts that you've written. Your initial case on Trfel was before he re-entered the thread.


I've scum read SL from the start who hasn't pushed me.
Trfel was scum read before they re entered thread. And I didn't like trfel after that doesn't have many original thoughts sheeps opportunistic big pile of null etc.
Hf hasn't really pushed me just he's not being him.

I think the statement in only scim reading people who push me is wrong


I'm sorry? Which of the three of us hasn't been pressuring you? (Maybe it's the wording I'm using.) It's not factually incorrect...I already indicated SL was the outlier.

I need to relook at trfel. I haven't really had the opportunity lately.


I'm like totally devoid of feeling at this, I just explained hfbisnt pushing me. Tfrl is independent of the push since it came before?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 04:33 GMT
#1046
What do people who aren't Damdred think of my alignment?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 04:34 GMT
#1047
On February 01 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote:
FF, specifically what is it about chez?

He hasn't been very active which is an immediate red flag...I did like several of the points he made when he made them, though, like the wordcount one. He reminds me a little of my brother. Sarcastic git. (Which may make me predisposed to like/townread him when I shouldn't).

A feeling/underwhelming filter. I'm looking for opinions because it looked to me like he was just poking and prodding looking for easy targets/low hanging fruit but nobody really talked about him.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 04:35 GMT
#1048
On February 01 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
HF is that still your complete list or is anything different?


I like rsoul a bit more, damdred has moved sideways and the afkers are dropping (chez/robik), I agreed with chez at the start on you but I did that in the last game I played with chez and he afk'd and was mafia


Can you elaborate on Robik's scum meta? Does he tend to afk?
Just finished Hammertime, and he was scum. AFKed in that game largely. Not sure if that's a regular thing with him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 04:36 GMT
#1049
Chezitwo is clearly playing the game in his own way. He is reading it, and I'm assuming that he is understanding it, but he isn't providing many thoughts to the thread. I see it as nothing more than a policy lynch.

If he keeps this up, I could become much more willing to lynch him.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 04:36 GMT
#1050
Robik is super spammy as town usually he's afk as scum
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 04:37 GMT
#1051
HTS and I have both talked about him some, FF, but he did fall beneath the radar as the day went on. Hold on and let me see if I agree with you on the actual content.

@Damdred...eh, we're just gonna disagree there, I think. The more important part was your reads. I'll look into Trfel. You and Trfel can both expect an answer to your questions then (though probably in the morning @.@).

Chez first.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
February 01 2015 04:37 GMT
#1052
Vote Count


sicklucker (4): Damdred, Palmar, Holyflare, Fecalfeast
Damdred (3): IAmRobik, Eden1892, rsoultin
Palmar (2): Chezitwo, Sicklucker
rsoultin(1): marvellosity,

Not Voting (3): trfel, LightningStrike, Half the Sky

Currently, sicklucker is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminders: Votes are done in the voting thread (link). Make sure to unvote if you want to vote someone new. Voting is mandatory-- you may not abstain.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 01 2015 04:38 GMT
#1053
Here's the thing hf, I don't see the typical hf oush or cling onto truly scummy things. You push things forget them move onto other things come back leave. You are strangely absent from the thread as well as the game foes along.

also not sure what your list post has to do with anything as I never said you pushed me just that you wernt playing like you
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 04:39 GMT
#1054
I guess a sicklucker lynch wouldn't be terrible. I'll leave my vote there for now.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 04:44 GMT
#1055
On February 01 2015 13:37 rsoultin wrote:
HTS and I have both talked about him some, FF, but he did fall beneath the radar as the day went on. Hold on and let me see if I agree with you on the actual content.

@Damdred...eh, we're just gonna disagree there, I think. The more important part was your reads. I'll look into Trfel. You and Trfel can both expect an answer to your questions then (though probably in the morning @.@).

Chez first.


EBWOP:
I'm sorry, FF, but I really do like Chez this game. His posts are contributing, they're not sheeping others' reads...and yeah maybe they're not as direct as you like but I can follow them easily enough.

He's not someone I would lynch today, certainly not based on this information.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
February 01 2015 04:44 GMT
#1056
On February 01 2015 13:31 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
everyone give me thoughts on chezzy-2 please his filter is gross


Since you're in here, to be blunt, yours isn't much better, especially when I see this:

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
Damdred looks fine to me. No glaring contradictions or anything. His reads stay consistent, he's scumreading SL...

I'll check eden's push but can someone give me the spark notes on why damdred is scum?


Damdred's progression has been a point of contention, you would go a far way to say in detail why Rasputin is wrong.

Plus, you are saying he looks fine but then you're asking for the notes on why damdred is scum? Why aren't you making your own conclusions?

Start by reading pages 24-26...


OK so are you talking about how he goes from "I don't like palmar for being trolly" to "Palmar is policy at best" or what? Just because he doesn't like someone's play doesn't mean he can't acknowledge when it's a policy lynch..

I'm looking at rasputin's filter right now and I'm confused as to where I said he was wrong....
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 01 2015 04:45 GMT
#1057
I guess I just don't understand why I am being scumread by Damdred. I'm pretty sure my filter in this game is longer than my filter in all of my previous games. I've been using pressure a lot more than I used to, and it hasn't been especially effective, but I feel like it is clear that I am genuinely scumhunting. I've explained my thoughts and provided evidence using quotes.

I suppose it's possible that I'm wrong, and I don't look towny at all. Which is why I'm asking, to figure out if Damdred's read on me is crazy or not.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 01 2015 04:46 GMT
#1058
Tch, I don't think SL is scum :/

I'm voting Palmar. (That and Robik I could genuinely see as scum this game, claim aside -_- and he's voting Damdred)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
February 01 2015 04:49 GMT
#1059
On February 01 2015 13:30 Damdred wrote:
Omfg just lynch trfel this is hilarious.

I'll deal with hf later or something, but trfel is so scum


The scum signs I'm seeing from Trfel is sheeping thread sentiment to some extent but I am seeing some followup, at least he appeared to do so with these:

On February 01 2015 10:36 Trfel wrote:
But that's about all that I see. Nowhere near enough to make me want to lynch rsoultin, since she provided consistent explanations, even if I disagree with them. Therefore, I apologize for jumping on that wagon like I did without checking the support first. Marvellosity and Holyflare did a fine job of questioning, I didn't need to go yelling too.

On a side note, I am really curious. Rsoultin, I've been a member of this forum for three years longer than you have. But you have nearly four times as many posts as me, and we played the same first game. How the heck did this happen?


On February 01 2015 12:59 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 12:56 Damdred wrote:
Nope re I think your scum gave more than one line you aren't reading.

Eden is so-so hate the push on me generally being useless

Yeah, you gave more than one line. Yesterday. A lot of stuff has happened since then.

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 07:38 Damdred wrote:
HF I'm glad I have a town read on you this early usually I am super suspicious of you But I like you so far.

At work so will be hit and miss. Rob is obvious town, I'm a bit confused why people would defend me for setup talk. I think it's really scummy what I did partially, I am right in what I'm saying but set up is super safe to talk about so ff, Eden are on my radar and Sl is as well

This is your old view on Holyflare. Then you changed it with the only explanation being something like "Holyflare isn't concerned with solving the game, just being right." Can you provide examples to support this?


The only other problem I have with Trfel is that he's saying he's having trouble reading SL and then in the end throws his vote on him (seemingly out of the blue?). He does bring up the scummy lurkers. He's having some trouble making reads I think, but he's showing in enough effort.

Damdred, if you think he's being misleading or something you need to be specific and point that out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 01 2015 04:51 GMT
#1060
On February 01 2015 13:38 Damdred wrote:
Here's the thing hf, I don't see the typical hf oush or cling onto truly scummy things. You push things forget them move onto other things come back leave. You are strangely absent from the thread as well as the game foes along.

also not sure what your list post has to do with anything as I never said you pushed me just that you wernt playing like you


you fucking bs liar wtf

On February 01 2015 13:22 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:15 rsoultin wrote:
On February 01 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go..


I'm not marrying but the push on me is horrid, hf should know its bad and is just spectating and not leading. Trfrl is just sheeping onto something that is easish to push at this point and RS is tunneled.

out of this RS is most likely town sadly.


It's Day 1. Everything's horrid. Nitpicking my HTS read to death when most of my defense was just quoting myself or repeating what I'd already said is horrid.

I don't get what you're doing.

But okay, I will pull back on you to give you space, cause right now it looks like you're just scumming people pushing you...and SL.

Do you have any reason to believe the people you are scumreading are scum that isn't Damdred-centric? That includes reading (or not reading) posts that you've written. Your initial case on Trfel was before he re-entered the thread.


I've scum read SL from the start who hasn't pushed me.
Trfel was scum read before they re entered thread. And I didn't like trfel after that doesn't have many original thoughts sheeps opportunistic big pile of null etc.
Hf hasn't really pushed me just he's not being him.

I think the statement in only scim reading people who push me is wrong



On February 01 2015 13:00 Damdred wrote:
And hf isn't really trying to figure anyone out honestly. He's more concerned about being 100 percent right and saying he's misread or joking about reads than actually push something sustained.

On February 01 2015 13:10 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 13:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why are you already martyring? There's more than 15 hours or something to go..


I'm not marrying but the push on me is horrid, hf should know its bad and is just spectating and not leading. Trfrl is just sheeping onto something that is easish to push at this point and RS is tunneled.

out of this RS is most likely town sadly.


none of this shit is true in the slightest and it's egregious that you think otherwise since i'm the only one talking about relevant shit LIKE LYNCHING YOUR OWN SCUM READ?????? you wanna lynch sl and i'm constantly pointing out this sl stuff while you guys talk about absolutely nothing and here you are saying that I'M pushing nothing

you tell me i'm not pushing you when you aren't my scum read, I have a list which you haven't questioned anything about? If i'm not figuring things out how on earth did I come up with a list?

bsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbs not a fucking chance you can believe any of the shit that you are writing
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