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On February 01 2015 07:41 Trfel wrote:
I guess I don't really see the case on Damdred yet. His change in opinion on Palmar is really weird, but almost everything else he has said seems null at worst. Though I do find it weird that he said he was feeling really good about this game and then vanished.
Do you see a case on anyone, Trfel? Because that's exactly my problem this game that so many people wanted to jump me for.
There aren't many people rising to the top and too many floating near the bottom (and yes, I know I qualify as one of those, but we've already established I'm a hypocrite, so deal).
I think that of the things I've seen married against what I know of the players (yeah, I could lynch SL or Palmar here, but it would just be because they're blah and I don't see anything scummier hitting me between the eyes) Damdred looks the worst to me.
Though I will say this...the longer SL stays out of the thread the more he seems like scum and not just irrational SL. No spazzy spamming isn't like him.
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On February 01 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
I see a case on sicklucker. I see a case on you as well. At the moment I see no need to make said cases. I suppose I'm also willing to lynch Palmar.
I'm not sure about Eden1892 and Damdred. Need some more stuff from them.
Why not make the cases, unless all you see is sheeping others' points? I explained my read on HTS about ten times, and apart from me not acting like a rabid animal or something (and I didn't in Protoss, either) the case on me is bullocks.
Eden's read on me rang true, but he'd be a fool to say anything that wasn't true since I'm right in the game with him.
Eden, why is Palmar town?
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On February 01 2015 08:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and everyone been going hard on rsoultin when I had her as town and her response to the pressure reassured my town read on her. Palmar claimed scum I think? At least Tfrel might not be the best lynch today but however there isn't really any good lynches as far as I can tell for now. HF what you think of Marv this game?
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So...you're saying that you're not voting Palmar because Palmar claimed scum?
Town or scum I don't think it can be argued that at least up to this point Palmar hasn't given a flying fuck about actually helping town find scum. I can understand reading him null and useless, but town...that I don't understand at all.
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On February 01 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
I see a case on sicklucker. I see a case on you as well. At the moment I see no need to make said cases. I suppose I'm also willing to lynch Palmar.
I'm not sure about Eden1892 and Damdred. Need some more stuff from them. Why not make the cases, unless all you see is sheeping others' points? I explained my read on HTS about ten times, and apart from me not acting like a rabid animal or something (and I didn't in Protoss, either) the case on me is bullocks. Eden's read on me rang true, but he'd be a fool to say anything that wasn't true since I'm right in the game with him. Eden, why is Palmar town? He literally just got mislynched like yesterday in Hammertime Mafia for doing this. He dicked around most of d1 and was wrong about somebody when he finally gave a strong read so he got ML'd d2. marv can say what he wants about me not knowing Palmar's style enough, but I struggle too much to believe that he goes right back to the thing that got him lynched when he's mafia.
I could see this...if he was pushing anyone today, anyway. It's WIFOMy, and I'm not sure it would ever deserve a town read, but I could see why you would think this.
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On February 01 2015 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 08:11 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 08:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I'm back and everyone been going hard on rsoultin when I had her as town and her response to the pressure reassured my town read on her. Palmar claimed scum I think? At least Tfrel might not be the best lynch today but however there isn't really any good lynches as far as I can tell for now. HF what you think of Marv this game?
##Unvote So...you're saying that you're not voting Palmar because Palmar claimed scum? Town or scum I don't think it can be argued that at least up to this point Palmar hasn't given a flying fuck about actually helping town find scum. I can understand reading him null and useless, but town...that I don't understand at all. I questioning if he claiming scum or not when HTS ask for his scumreads and reading himself as scum so idk if he really claimed scum or trolling that's my thing with him.
Okay. I don't know how to even evaluate a scum "claim" or "troll" into a read on someone, frankly. Maybe there's a heuristic out there where it's statistically more likely that's one alignment over another, but I don't know it.
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On February 01 2015 08:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 08:15 Eden1892 wrote:On February 01 2015 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On February 01 2015 08:09 Eden1892 wrote:On February 01 2015 08:01 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 07:52 Trfel wrote:
I see a case on sicklucker. I see a case on you as well. At the moment I see no need to make said cases. I suppose I'm also willing to lynch Palmar.
I'm not sure about Eden1892 and Damdred. Need some more stuff from them. Why not make the cases, unless all you see is sheeping others' points? I explained my read on HTS about ten times, and apart from me not acting like a rabid animal or something (and I didn't in Protoss, either) the case on me is bullocks. Eden's read on me rang true, but he'd be a fool to say anything that wasn't true since I'm right in the game with him. Eden, why is Palmar town? He literally just got mislynched like yesterday in Hammertime Mafia for doing this. He dicked around most of d1 and was wrong about somebody when he finally gave a strong read so he got ML'd d2. marv can say what he wants about me not knowing Palmar's style enough, but I struggle too much to believe that he goes right back to the thing that got him lynched when he's mafia. it's not the same thing at all... How is it not? The only thing missing is him suddenly deciding somebody is mafia and hardcore tunneling them the rest of the day while still trolling around. so the only thing missing is him legimitately making a push on someone with some basis? duh...
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On February 01 2015 08:58 Damdred wrote:
Sorry I can't be here 24/7 but work takes precedence sometimes.
Anyway a few really dumb things were said while hi was catching up. Rs isn't reading the thread again and characterized my interaction in the ls/Sl as Scum reading both etc., when I specifically said LS is fine I have an issue with Sl and how he went about it. Hf was the first to ask this.
Also LS is playing differently he's playing ok honestly and that's great really glad.
I'm not sure what everyone is in arms about when it comes to Palmar progression. He's always been a policy lynch, me saying hey I could lynch him doesn't mean it's not a policy lynch. Me changing on him doesn't matter there since there are better lynched which is what people should realize.
Trfel looks bad still to me, Eden looks marginally worse at this stage. Sl is still Scum.
The Palmar progression is strange because there isn't an obvious reason why you're wobbling back and forth.
And I really don't understand how you can say on the one hand that SL cannot possibly be townreading LS because of yada yada laundry list of reasons, then say that no you weren't scumreading LS. When questioned on it you said it was SL you were scumreading...and eventually you townread LS for his FF case...but it's just a really weird thought process to me. If you saw so many things wrong with LS' play, why weren't you scumreading him?
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Damdred, the Palmar progression is what has me voting for you.
Can you explain what it is about Palmar's post being funny that makes you no longer want to lynch him? I don't understand this any more than I do the superbowl post.
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okay, Damdred:
On January 31 2015 11:50 Damdred wrote:
I don't get how you can all ls read on you strong really. Its sorta weird in all actuality, at that point you shouldn't of been town read at all and you even told ls he was wrong. So you think ls can't fake the read he gave?
On January 31 2015 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Thankfully I'm home so I can ninja hf instead of other way around.
LS isn't trying to solve the game AND he's playing against how he plays town, usually he has three town reads at least by meta. Even his meta on you is super weak by ls standards so I'm not sure why you give him a free pass so early and so hard.
I do get from your filter that your point was SL shouldn't be hard townreading LS at that point, and I agreed even when I read it. However, all of these are good reasons to scumread LS and you didn't come to that conclusion.
On January 31 2015 13:00 Damdred wrote:
Overall I don't have a problem with ls play at this point as he takes a bit longer to get going. But I do not think that anything he's done should get a super hard town read like SL is giving him.
Especially the second post talking about meta and whatnot, it sounded like you definitely did have a problem with LS play, but only insofar as it effected your SL read? I wouldn't scumread you for this alone, but it's not like it isn't oddly contradictory.
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On February 01 2015 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Actually yeah, Palmar post made me chuckle which makes me want to not lynch him.
I'm not seeing where you said anything about better lynches? And I've reread your filter for the third or fourth time today now -_-
Can you quote it?
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On February 01 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:I can't explain it, but my general feeling after the events of today is that the scum has a minimal presence in the thread. And we're all just townies arguing with each other. This game has too many lurkers. + Show Spoiler +And please, before you try to policy lynch me for going after lurkers, I'm still scumhunting and researching. And you can't deny that it's possible that all of the scum are lurkers, in my first game all of the scum lurked for basically the entire game.
Truffle...
Dude. Why are you so anxious about being lynched when no one is pushing you? Damdred says he thinks you're scum, but all he has about you is the post from way back before you reentered the thread.
Why were you trying to half-ass defend me by saying no one was defending me when the thread was up my ass, yet after most of them seem to be okayish nah you can make a case against me now?
What is the point even of talking about marv and HF possibly being scum together if you have no evidence to suggest that's the case beyond paranoia? Or even to suggest that one might be scum?
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On February 01 2015 09:41 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 04:35 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 01:20 rsoultin wrote:
Unless it's to avoid a medic save.
Badumdum. <3 you Eden.
Okay, well, talking in circles. Where I'm at right now is despite wanting to give Truffle a chance to break in his new town play, if he doesn't step it up I'm totally behind lynching him today.
FF and Palmar feel more like policy lynches to me.
SL I just don't know about. It's very possible he could be scum but I always think that about him so I don't know. One thing that stood out about me regarding him is he's just not up to his usual mind-fuckery town antics so far this game. I don't know that the rage! based on what his meta said thing is scum SL or just irrational SL. ^ That. I've questioned him about reading LS town for hard townreading him but it's SL. If you've got a good way to read the spaz, please let me know. If anything, I like FFs reasoning for voting him best. He's not spazzing the thread much this game. Actually people read me very well you might be the exception. Ive been town like 8 games now? I have never been misynched thats a pretty good track record. I post without thinking because people always read me right when I do it. + its very fun :D. It usualy takes people a day or 2 to come around tho. Which is why im a terrible day1 lynch
I'm not disagreeing with the premise that giving you a day or two makes it easier to read you, though I think you may be overvaluing people's ability to do so. I was back to scumreading you enough for you to be my second check in Protoss...You may be right, though, and it's just me who can't get past your irrationality.
I'm not seeing the crazy SL in this game, however.
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If Palmar's goal is to be completely unreadable, I think he's succeeding -_-
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On February 01 2015 10:36 Trfel wrote:rsoultinShow nested quote +On February 01 2015 00:17 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, HtS, I stand corrected.
I like where your head is on your reads on me and FF. You get a town pass today. Rsoultin's stance on Half the Sky was off. It's been pointed out already why the stance is wrong, so I don't feel the need to do it again. I also didn't particularly like Half the Sky's read on FecalFeast. Then when rsoultin started getting questioned, she blew the first few questions off. I guess that's not completely out of character, but I don't really like it. And while I still really don't like the way she responded to the questioning, it seems mostly consistent throughout. And I really do like rsoultin's comments on Damdred's read progression on Palmar. Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 05:43 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 05:41 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what do you think of me now? Earlier, you were willing to lynch me. Earlier all you had were excuses and a post full of nullish reads again. I specifically said that you were trying to change your style, and I'd give you a chance to see if you picked it up. You did. I'm fine with you. This is the other weird quote from rsoultin. Before this, she said that I seemed suspicious, after this she said that I seemed suspicious. With the same reasons both times. But that's about all that I see. Nowhere near enough to make me want to lynch rsoultin, since she provided consistent explanations, even if I disagree with them. Therefore, I apologize for jumping on that wagon like I did without checking the support first. Marvellosity and Holyflare did a fine job of questioning, I didn't need to go yelling too. On a side note, I am really curious. Rsoultin, I've been a member of this forum for three years longer than you have. But you have nearly four times as many posts as me, and we played the same first game. How the heck did this happen?
You usually die a lot earlier than me, for one. I also generally post more than you do. Sometimes to the point of excess, which is something I'm trying to cut back on after being mislynched by Damdred and geript who somehow thought that I seemed scummier than DP for dumbass reasons.
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On February 01 2015 10:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what do you think about sicklucker, given his recent return to the thread and posts?
If there's a vig in this game he should be shot. Actually, a lot of people should be shot, but in all seriousness I don't understand what he's doing even more than I usually don't understand what he's doing.
That he's the only one Palmar is actually fighting with could be significant, but Palmar's so frustratingly unreadable to me, too, I kind of just want to auto-block them -_-
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On February 01 2015 10:51 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2015 10:49 rsoultin wrote:On February 01 2015 10:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what do you think about sicklucker, given his recent return to the thread and posts? If there's a vig in this game he should be shot. Actually, a lot of people should be shot, but in all seriousness I don't understand what he's doing even more than I usually don't understand what he's doing. That he's the only one Palmar is actually fighting with could be significant, but Palmar's so frustratingly unreadable to me, too, I kind of just want to auto-block them -_- I see where you are coming from. Perhaps you can help me go through sicklucker's filter and together we can get an okay read on him? I'm trying, but I don't think I'm getting anywhere.
Sure. Was there anything in particular that stood out to you?
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On January 31 2015 07:19 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2015 07:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I am thinking scum!damdred wouldn't talk about scum strategy in thread, what's the point as scum to talk about what scum knows and needs to confirm in thread? The over-explaination doesn't feel scummy to me idk No shit its a really bad scum read. And if I was in thread first I would have done the same thing as dandred
First weird thing, what with praising LS for calling out Robik on making it easier for scum to use PoE. Probably has already been mentioned by people though.
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You know, honestly, trfel, there are a lot of things that don't make a ton of sense in SL's filter, but I am getting the impression that he somehow believes them.
The meta thing he said was what Eden has been pressuring him on.
And, for whatever reason, he does seem to think that his actions have a huge impact. Like I don't really think that him saying he was town a lot actually caused the scum team to concede in our last game, but I can see him thinking that was the cause? Just like I can see him thinking that because he pressured marv once, and marv gave up and was town, that if he pressures him again he'd give up again.
His point that palmar should be pressuring marv to see if he's scum (not the rest about making things up) isn't a terrible one.
SL...is your read on Eden pretty much just entirely because he's scumreading you for being angry at robik?
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You've pressured marv three times when he was town, he gave up all those times, and he was town all those times?
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On February 01 2015 11:15 sicklucker wrote:
My eden read was an early day 1 read. Take it for what it is but I did unvote him
I know you unvoted him, SL, but you were still scumreading him earlier. Has that changed now?
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