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Also, fuck the buttan. #guard4lyfe | ||
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On March 03 2015 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh but the thing is we were clearly talking about a PM GAME with geript. Why would you take that out of context as town? If you are town and Toad is mafia, what exactly is his goal by saying "rayn doesn't tend to be salty in PMs"? You're blowing something completely trivial stupidly out of proportion. Is strange, yo. | ||
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On March 03 2015 09:06 geript wrote: Slam. Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior jibbers crabst? HALLELUJAH PRAISE JIBBERS CRABST | ||
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On March 03 2015 15:12 AT.Epiphany wrote: I spent the last 40 minutes combing the database for Geript's games. I'm new here it doesn't make me stupid. I'll respond to the rest after I've cooled down a bit, because Geript's abuse has rubbed me the wrong way. Oh sweet, 40 minutes reading meta. We've got an expert here! + Show Spoiler + I'm just fucking around with you, don't get mad! | ||
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rayn is a little more interesting. That semi-push or whatever you want to call it on Toad earlier was pretty strange. Especially when rayn obviously has no qualms with calling people mafia in general. I mean, look at his filter, half of his posts are just "X is mafia." But with Toad, he just kinda beat around the bush with some bullshit. | ||
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@geript: Regarding Koshi, I 'unno, it seems really out of character for him to just say "I'm fucking off and not doing anything". I mean, out of character whether he is scum or town. I think for now I'm okay with just seeing if he actually does anything or not and deciding later. rayn is a little more interesting. That semi-push or whatever you want to call it on Toad earlier was pretty strange. Especially when rayn obviously has no qualms with calling people mafia in general. I mean, look at his filter, half of his posts are just "X is mafia." But with Toad, he just kinda beat around the bush with some bullshit. | ||
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On March 03 2015 15:37 geript wrote: Keir does Epiphany remind you at all of me in Boardwalk? No. You were way worse. I literally wanted to kill myself. | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:03 Tubesock wrote: @FecalFeast - I'm the windman because I fly, it's something we (Slam and I) have in common we learned in Carol. He's used this in reference to me before but this is probably the first in game. So, why isn't more people interested in what Batsnacks has to say about his shoot deadline actions? ie pushing for a shot to basically insure that someone was going to shoot. Like he really egged it on. I can't believe he did this from a towny perspective. Hmm, yea I can see batty being scum here. Not necessarily for egging the shot on, but his filter in general is lazy to the point of not caring about what is happening in the game. Never giving it any critical thought. "Mocsta is scum. I'm not really reading the thread so I don't know what else is happening, but I'm going to shoot Mocsta. Yep, Mocsta. Mocsta Mocsta." That's basically his entire filter. | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:30 Sepulchre wrote: I hope that adequatly answers the question that were raised in regards to my change in opinion of who to shoot prior to the soft deadline. What happened to your scumread on OWS? | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:04 Onegu wrote: So yeah Rayn and Robik being in such huge hurries to shoot makes them both town IMO. I am really kinda behind having just scanned over everything. But since I'm such OBV town it's all good. Yo, who do you actually think is scum or anything? These are literally the only two reads in your filter. Last game you were throwing out town reads and scum reads and list posts and shit left and right. What gives? | ||
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On March 04 2015 10:57 Mocsta wrote: thats the only question worth asking from his post? srs keirathi?? Yes, it's the weirdest thing about his filter. I can mostly follow his logic with rayn, I just mostly disagree with it because rayn is rayn. | ||
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On March 04 2015 11:11 Mocsta wrote: I dont follow. Rayn is rayn equivocates to disagreement with the evidence; or disagree with the conclusion? I'm saying the evidence is mostly just a list of things taken out of a Scumhunting For Dummies handbook which don't necessarily make rayn scum. So I guess I'm disagreeing that the evidence implies the conclusion. | ||
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On March 04 2015 11:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Do I pick that book up at chapters or can I get it on my kindle? I think Amazon has it in hardback or ebook. | ||
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On March 04 2015 06:16 Sepulchre wrote: I think Raynpelikoneet is the best shot in the long run. Unfortunately I won't be around during the troubled times of the soft deadline but that is who I would likely go with right now, albeit without having read too deeply into the thread. For the record, I'm not in favor of shooting Your Mom, while shooting Koshi is acceptable in my book, but I'm not crazy about it either. "I don't really care if we shoot townies." | ||
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On March 04 2015 16:08 rsoultin wrote: That's not how I read that, Keir? Can you explain? It's the "rayn is the best shot in the long run" thing. Not "rayn is mafia and he should die" or whatever. And basically the same thing with Koshi. "I don't really think Koshi is mafia, but I would be okay if someone shot him". | ||
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On March 04 2015 16:07 Keirathi wrote: EBWOP: Also, I'll take a look a Damdred real quick. I don't really remember anything he's done....which I guess is saying something already. But I had him on the townie side earlier. So something about Damdred is rubbing me a bit wrong, but I can't quite put my finger on it. He was the only "new" person in Slytherin that I had a really strong town read on in Day 1, but something is different this game. And this post: On March 04 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote: Your mom didn't look bad from what I read what was the malfunction But he was here for ~3 hours before the deadline, and didn't try to stop rayn from shooting YM. Rayn had been pushing that shot for hours and hours by that point. | ||
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Oh, I missed the YM reference in that post. But still, that post is 10.5 hours before the deadline. When he comes back to thread 3 hours before the deadline, he does nothing to try to keep YM from getting shot. Generally if a townie things someone else is town, they at least provide some reasons or try to have a discussion with the people wanting to lynch said person. Or at least try to push someone they do think is mafia instead. | ||
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On March 04 2015 16:57 rsoultin wrote: okay, double-checked on time and context 2.5 hours, not seeing rayn in the thread at the time that damdred was there. damdred may be scum, but I don't think it's for that reason, keir Oh, for some reason when you quoted that post, it changed the time stamp back to TL time instead of local time. So that post where he said "YM looks okay" or whatever was after the time I was looking at where he came back ot thread. Stupid TL time stamps fucking with me. Anyways, I do still think it's weird that his only thoughts on YM were "YM looks okay" then "YM didn't look bad, what was the malfunction" even without time context. Like he gave no reasons for why LM looked "okay" or anything, then was upset when rayn shot him. Except he didn't even really seem to care very much to question rayn about the shot or whatever. Just feels kind of forced. Maybe I'm just reading too hard into it now since I started talking about it. I'll sleep on it and see what I'm feeling tomorrow. | ||
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I have like 60 pages or something to read, but if someone wants to TL;DR that would be great. | ||
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On March 08 2015 15:52 Breshke wrote: If we can make it past this day we are in a fairly good spot. Will get 3 confirmed towns out of it 4 even if onegu cant send himself because unless my maths is wrong mafia 100% fail the mission and just win How do we get 3 confirmed town out of it? Does the mission require unanimous success, or just a majority? | ||
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That's so far down the wormhole that it's laughable. | ||
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On March 10 2015 05:24 kitaman27 wrote: As I said before, there are 8 town remaining and 5 mafia. If Epi and Kurumi are town it is 6 town vs 5 mafia. If you're town, you need to vote together or we lose. If you're mafia, keep doing your thing. It really doesn't matter that much I think. If he is town and mafia pile on him at the deadline, they still don't control the mission, he does. Granted I have no idea who he would take, so he could throw, but if he just copies onegus list it would probably be fine. And if he's mafia, it still doesn't matter. No one else is going to vote for him, so even if all mafia switch, there's not enough to control the mission. | ||
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On March 10 2015 06:02 kitaman27 wrote: Also since you haven't said really anything all game, especially during the last two day cycles....do you have any scum reads or are we stuck guessing your alignment? Yea, they just haven't been useful to talk about since I got back. I'll have a big post about them during the night phase. | ||
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On March 10 2015 08:51 Breshke wrote: I dont think i can count. isnt it 10 people left after onegu midkill and after mafia nightkill its 5-4? We had a 2 vig kills and a NK. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:12 DarthPunk wrote: Well I advised Artanis to do a 19-5-2 split if I recall correctly but he over-ruled me and went with 18-6-2 which I personally feel is a bit Imbalanced. You always want the Town - Mafia to be closer to 4:1 than 3:1 I also think I would have removed third parties entirely due to the nature of the game being centered around two factions and their spirits. Something like 21 - 5 with Factional KP at 2 until the first mafia dies. I think the Game could also be balanced in the costing of the Powers (increasing KP cost) setting the factional KP at 1 or just removing the Factional KP entirely. I really liked the concept and I think the game could be tweaked to be more balanced. I would like to hear peoples thoughts. I don't necessarily have a problem with 3p in this game in general, but 2 shots each just makes the game super swingy in a setup that is already swingy with all the vigs flying around. I think ninjas could be interesting in some other kind of way. Maybe something like they get a shot that only works on the other ninja, but they have some other abilities to try to weed out the other ninja in some way. As it was, they were just blindly shooting and just hoping they were right (well, except Robik didn't even try to hit the other ninja with his last shot...which seems really strange mechanics-wise in hindsight). | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote: Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising. I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it. How were hte lynch mechanics mafia favored!?! Everything else that happened in the game might have been, but Resistance and Cell were by far the "worst" lynch mechanics available in the pool for mafia. 2 "list check" mechanics in a row could have have been devastating if it weren't for all the extra KP going around. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote: Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me. Who are you and why are you shitting up the post game with these kinds of comments? | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:25 kitaman27 wrote: I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where that wouldn't be considered cheating and insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much. Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt. I'm not really sure what is mod-killable about that? AFAIK, it's always been permissive to claim your role PM as long as you don't copy-paste it in thread. And mafia was given the same role pm, and same sample fake pm. Unless I'm missing something :o | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:33 kitaman27 wrote: I was under the impression it broke this one: Especially the discussion of the format since I know several people have been banned for that in the past and every host may not include the color of the text in the sample PM. Not that it would have made a difference though it seems. Hmm I guess you're right. | ||
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On March 10 2015 09:38 Tubesock wrote: I saw it eventually, and I was pushing to kill Sandroba till the spirit mindfucked me. How should I have gotten people to read my posts more? I'd like feedback from you guys if you're willing please. That was really a big clusterfuck. Had I been around, I would have told him not to make that claim. Or at least, nott o make it on Onegu. And I feel like I could have made some good arguments for why it wouldn't make sense for mafia sandro to claim cop there, but by the time I got back in the thread, the whole thing was already over and SL was dead. I feel like a LOT of the reason people were so 99% sure that sandro was scum was just because of SL starting that whole "no one has roles" thing which could have been stopped easily just by pointing to the OP. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:18 Toadesstern wrote: it wasn't fake at all. It was just not alignment indicative, why should it be? He picked Onegu because there was 0% of Onegu being ever lynched in that Cell. Everyone was townreading him during d1. So dishing out a green check on someone who already was townread but almost everyone should not have mattered at all. Was everyone townreading him day 1? I don't remember that. When i made my case/points about him being mafia during night 1, no one contested them or anything, and afaik I didn't remember anyone hard-towning him at that point anyways. Maybe like 1 person. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:26 Toadesstern wrote: Rayn and I both had him as town. Pretty sure there were more than just us two? I just looked back. You had him as null, then rayn said "I feel like he is kinda playing like I expect" and then you said "I agree". Those are like the weakest town reads ever :p | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:34 Toadesstern wrote: I had him as town in my sheet that I posted though. Sure it's a super weak read but when in the same Cell as someone labeled "KILL IT WITH FIRE" as well as two nulls that's more than enough lol Your sheet had him as null? Or did you post an updated one and I just didn't scroll down far enough? Edit: This was the one I was looking at: http://i.imgur.com/qCM4NLA.png | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:37 Tubesock wrote: I need to articulate better. I saw and posted Rayne's and Toad's last lists that scummed Sandroba. I saw how easy it was to make the cell me vs Sicklucker and how much a cop check benefits Sandroba. It took awhile but after Geript was repeating how he never lies as mafia I realized that mafia having a cop check has value in this game. Cop check someone who's green and night kill them later which would have "confirmed" Sandroba town. Lying about the check, what if town or ninja killed Onegu and he flipped ninja? Then we would have killed Sandroba. Why didn't people think about this more? Why am I so ignored? Playing devil's advocate: what if sandroba was town, and he did actually check Onegu (which I still think would have been a solid check overall). Sure, your scenario is possible (and was the case), but why aren't the other scenarios possible? Why, in this specific case, is that scenario the only one that makes sense and make sandro scum? There is more to making an argument than just seeing a scenario and thinking "That makes sense, that must be how it happened!" | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:40 Toadesstern wrote: why does noone read the fucking sheet.... I include some basic explanations to it for a reason. Oh, herp derp. Somehow I read all the other ones, but didn't see the note about Onegu | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:48 Toadesstern wrote: granted it's an increadibly weak read but the first thing I said to artanis when I got shot was something along the lines of "wow, that's Cell is pure cancer... anyone could be mafia in there ... except for maybe Onegu who looks ever so slightly townish" but if you have him in contrast to the other 3 he was the shining beacon of towniness Meh, I disagree. Tube was the shining beacon of townness in that cell Man, that day 1 only being 24 hours really fucked me  I was having a good game going into the end of night 1, but stupid exams. That time I missed should have been in the night phase instead of day | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:54 Toadesstern wrote: After the day started? Yeah tube looked really good and was obviously town but before or when it started Onegu was the only one I townread, which is when you have to decide who to pick for your cop-check. I meant had I been town, I feel like I would have had a pretty good townread on Tube just from his day 1 stuff. That whole "plan" thing was pretty townie, even if it wasn't necessarily good. | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:50 geript wrote: Kita, Rayn, Keirathi, Me, Foolishness, Koshi, Mocsta I think too. Like a surprising amount. FWIW I don't trust syllo/sandro soulread anymore after they fucked with me in Catastrophe by both being mafia :D | ||
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On March 10 2015 10:59 Toadesstern wrote: I mean Sandro really isn't that hard to read... and if you're unsure, wait until d3 and lynch him if he's still alive. That reminds me, I don't think I've ever played a game with town sandro He was scum in Chrono Trigger, Catastrophe, and this. | ||
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I personally thought I had a pretty solid first cycle (particularly night 1). The problem was, I really did have 2 midterms last Thursday. So I get home ~6-7pm every night, then have a few hours to catch up/post, but I couldn't even do that Wednesday night because i had to study. Then I made a (albeit probably poor) decision to go out with friends Thursday after midterms were over and didn't get home until way too late to look at the thread and actually be able to get up for school the next day, so I put it off again. Somehow, in the middle of all of that, my TL tab got closed, and since I generally don't visit TL unless I'm playing mafia, I didn't think to check it friday, and so I didn't vote. All the good play in the world doesn't excuse leaving the thread for ~72 hours or whatever. Basically I threw away any real good-will I had for my day 1/night 1 play and put me on the back foot. So, sorry to my teammates for that. It's pretty inexcusable. I was in a position to have a good game and I fucked it up. [snip] Bleh, I was going to write a bunch of stuff here about individual players, but it felt kinda sleezy only mentioning the players I was familiar with and leaving out a bunch of people, so I decided it was better not to. I do have a question for Toad though: Why did you save Kita night1 instead of rayn? Not that I think it's a bad decision to save kita there, obviously, but I feel like rayn has a lot more...uh...thread control? than kita ever does. Kita is an excellent player, but not very often is he the driving factor behind a lynch. Rayn can and is that person. Also @rayn: you scumread me last game and townread me this game. Boggling :O | ||
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