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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:15 GMT
#1741
I'm really not bullshitting about being a one-shot vigi either. Think what you want.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 20:17 GMT
#1742
On March 05 2015 05:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:13 Toadesstern wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:11 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:07 IAmRobik wrote:
90% chance geript is vt trying to take a bullet -.-

why would he take a bullet?
if he shoots me he will get lynched.
if he doesn't he will still probably get lynched.

this logic doesn't really make any sense robert...

meaning he is lying about getting the cop/vigi shot to try to take a bullet

but vigs usually just have one shot. Why would mafia shoot that?

he literally just changed his story from shooting rayn to being given a cop check/vig shot. Are you for serious ?

and you honestly think anyone believes that?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:18 GMT
#1743
Robik, You're a fucking idiot if you think that I claimed getting cop. Like literally all you have to do is fucking read the fucking thread.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2015 20:19 GMT
#1744
On March 05 2015 05:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Onegu has a total of FIVE posts, FIVE POSTS!
And you "forget about one of them" and have a top #1 (or #2 whatever) scumread on him.

You NEVER, EVER called Onegu town in your filter. NEVER. Which you would have done if you thought that post was in fact townie.

Because I don't think he's town. And yes. It's quite easy to forget about a random joke post in this game. Especially early on when I was still fucking salty about getting mislynched in like 3 different games in a row and almost in a fourth. Like it's the fucking cool thing to do to townread me on D1 then mislynch me because you think there's some random crazy fucking way I could actually be mafia.

Like which is it?
- It has been a reason you didn't shoot him -> townie post
- It has not been a townie posts
- It is apparently now a random joke post

WHICH IS IT? It can't be all of those. Yet you have used that post as a reasoning for doing two completely different things now.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 04 2015 20:20 GMT
#1745
whatever geript. do what you want. if you shoot rayn, i'm coming for you hard
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 20:21 GMT
#1746
can we please just stop this all
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2015 20:22 GMT
#1747
Like here is the timeline (approx):

-> 00:30 (my time - which is when Koshi got modkilled):
Onegu's post was not a townie post (because he was geript's top target)

00:30 - 01:00 (24h mark):
Onegu's post was townie geript didn't want to shoot him

Now:
Onegu's post was a random joke, scumread -- or not at least a townread



rly? RLY?
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#1748
Geript please dont shoot rayn he is town

Shoot bats or SL. Like seriously take a step back and really think about this.

Wont be back till couple hours after deadline bye
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#1749
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:23 GMT
#1750
On March 05 2015 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:14 geript wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Onegu has a total of FIVE posts, FIVE POSTS!
And you "forget about one of them" and have a top #1 (or #2 whatever) scumread on him.

You NEVER, EVER called Onegu town in your filter. NEVER. Which you would have done if you thought that post was in fact townie.

Because I don't think he's town. And yes. It's quite easy to forget about a random joke post in this game. Especially early on when I was still fucking salty about getting mislynched in like 3 different games in a row and almost in a fourth. Like it's the fucking cool thing to do to townread me on D1 then mislynch me because you think there's some random crazy fucking way I could actually be mafia.

Like which is it?
- It has been a reason you didn't shoot him -> townie post
- It has not been a townie posts
- It is apparently now a random joke post

WHICH IS IT? It can't be all of those. Yet you have used that post as a reasoning for doing two completely different things now.

Do you ever fucking listen to me? I read Onegu off of 3 different things:
1. Content-- I don't expect a lot but I expect some
2. Happiness--He really enjoys playing town. He's a lot happier and more jovial when he's town. He'll make lots of little jokes here and there and do shit.
3. Activity--He posts way more as town than as mafia.

So yes, a random joke from him, one that's very in line with the flavor of the thread and quite funny is towny of him. The problem is that that's contrasted with a distinct lack of content and a distinct lack of activity. So where he would usually have more jokes/etc he has posts like this:
On March 04 2015 10:04 Onegu wrote:
So yeah Rayn and Robik being in such huge hurries to shoot makes them both town IMO. I am really kinda behind having just scanned over everything. But since I'm such OBV town it's all good.

Which he would 100 make as mafia. Basically a quick in and out and say something and go do something else.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2015 20:24 GMT
#1751
On March 05 2015 05:21 Toadesstern wrote:
can we please just stop this all

no we can't because geript's train of thought makes absolutely no sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2015 20:26 GMT
#1752
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:27 GMT
#1753
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.


Heh so you're saying he isn't one?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:28 GMT
#1754
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.

You mean like a massive dick enough to try and use PM's to determine someone's alignment. Because that dick would be you. What's really funny about it is that you did it in Artanis' game. Because you and everyone else knows that Artanis always tells mafia what the VT role pm is. Like that's a massive dick play on top of being a really fucking stupid play. That's what up.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#1755
Lets swap topics.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:31 GMT
#1756
Ok Kita, How about we talk about Tube.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 20:31 GMT
#1757
On March 05 2015 05:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Lets swap topics.

On March 05 2015 02:58 Toadesstern wrote:
rayn, anything you disagree with or want to add? I honestly don't really care all that much about mafia reads right now and am trying to go by PoE seeing as that your mom thing totally did not work out yesterday and we just have a crapton of people that are just nulls for me. Feel like we should focus on those guys atm, so:

[image loading]

left out the other green tone for obvious reasons right now.


anything that caught your attention?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 04 2015 20:35 GMT
#1758
On March 05 2015 05:21 Toadesstern wrote:
can we please just stop this all


Yes pls.
Retired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 20:36 GMT
#1759
On March 05 2015 03:38 geript wrote:
@Kita. Regarding Tube. I had to go back and look at my summary of the Newbie game and his filter. On length it's about what I expect. He's under similar pressure in that game too IIRC. There are a few things that I note that are quite different.

First, in the newbie game while his filter isn't great he has some real gems of insight here and there. Things that really show how he's thinking about the game. Not just the "If everyone's scumreading Shining" post but more like:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2015 11:17 Tubesock wrote:
Even if you read Rsoultin's legacy concerning Silverarte it's like she doesn't want to insult her by calling her mafia since they are friends. There isn't a single towny word in Rsoultin's paragraph about Silver.

Like it's a really interesting thought. But I'm not really seeing anything like that this game. That's pretty remarkable to me.

Second, in the newbie game he's reasonably opinionated. Like he makes points on people and interacts a bunch. Like almost all of his posts are to someone. I'm going to try and be specific about this but his posts are to the person in relation to the conversation they are having in the thread at that time. Like there's an intended back and forth. Where as this game it's far more of posting at people. Like he's interested in saying something but not in actually conversing or having that back and forth.

Third, I remember one of the heuristics used in Boardwalk revolved around who made plans and why. In Boardwalk, there were numerous plans based around picking numbers and what should be drafted where, etc. But I specifically remember someone talking about how mafia were more likely to propose a plan and just let it die. As I recall, I think it ended up getting a mafia lynched; I think it was part of why Gonzaw suspected Artanis. Either way, what I find interesting about his Votecount thing is that he doesn't really push it. He both likes and understands my "people cleared to shoot" list. But unlike, Rayn or me that game there was no constant revision in order to generate a better plan. There wasn't really any pushing for finding the best plan. It's more of a "I'm doing something plan but I don't really care about it."

Fourth, This post:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:51 your mom wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:
Tube, I'd rather hear your reads. Your idea wasn't terrible, but the longer you hide behind that list, the more townie points you're losing.


Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit.

Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan).

Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him.

Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.


rayns arguments are that i scumread people off a few posts before looking at the entire game, and keep scumreading them for those posts (which is supposed to make the whole "fabricated")

now point me to the part you find convincing please. rayn called me mafia on the get go so he couldnt have thought that i was mafia cause stubborn, since it was shortly after game start and before i went to bed. he called me mafia after i woke up today for reasons. but the first time he calls me mafia, do you see a reason for it?


I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.

Geript is doing stuff and interacting a lot. He grilled Epiphany (still even but more politely). He doesn't appear to be afraid to say anything and is pushing an agenda. There's some things he's done that seemed scummy (pushing for chaos with plan rejection and not pushing an alternative, pushing the ninja stuff) but that stuff is either outweighed by or explained by his other actions. It's definitely possible he's scum, but we can't shoot him today. No way.

What I find interesting about this post is that finding reasons to call me mafia but doesn't push them. What's more important is he's both buddied me pretty hard at points and both before and after this calls me obvious town. Like that's really, really weird.

Talk about this. While I go grab a cigar.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 04 2015 20:37 GMT
#1760
On March 05 2015 05:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2015 05:23 kitaman27 wrote:
rayn could I get a couple of sentences explaining your town read on rob?

he is a massive dick if he did what he did at the deadline as mafia.

You mean like a massive dick enough to try and use PM's to determine someone's alignment. Because that dick would be you. What's really funny about it is that you did it in Artanis' game. Because you and everyone else knows that Artanis always tells mafia what the VT role pm is. Like that's a massive dick play on top of being a really fucking stupid play. That's what up.

Yeah fuck you. I am using every information i am presented to gather reads. If someone posted their role PM in thread as town should i say they are mafia "because it's not fair to think they are town"?

Of course i fucking read what people write in the thread, i "unsportmanshiply" solved the tItanic III game because i fucking knew DP was fakeclaiming and Hopeless was not from the way they presented their claims. So what? Should i have mislynched Hopeless there?

Yes i am 100% sure LightningStrike is town here for his claim and don't you dare to throw shit on me for something i have nothing to do with. There is no way he words his post that way without having time to think as mafia. Period. I know it, you know it, and you are probably salty because you just lost a mislynch because of it. But do not fucking blame me for having a read.
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