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kitaman27
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On March 05 2015 00:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense. From what I can tell: 1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong 2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia 3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading. If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy? How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia. LOL its this very post that made me town read him i see lots of town change their view based on ppl they think are towny. not sure if mafia would be so open about this to be honest. +as town im often chastised for switching "strong" viws so i know this isnt a hard mafia indicator, tl;dr hes put his cards exactly as what they are with no additional agenda/distraction afterwards. to me thats townie
Yeah switching views is something I find to be townie as well, but what I'm trying to understand is how he can consider rayn's case to be convincing and making sense, yet unable to find reasons to see why your mom is mafia. It's fine it he takes one stance or the other, but it seems like he took both stances at the same time.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 05 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote:
In that game (Carol), OWS did jack all. If I had to take him at face value now, he'd be a good lynch, hasn't done too much beyond tone reads early D1. Definitely forgettable, and doesn't really talk/followup on Bats even post-lynch.
So you draw the comparison to a game where he is town and then conclude that he would be a good lynch?
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Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk.
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I don't wanna talk with geript
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Kita,
1 He was blue in Carol so he may have purposely acted different. I'm also unfamiliar with his normal town meta, I havent played with him enough to know if he's normally lazy-ish town.
2 Disregarding his meta (hence saying face value), I'd lynch him because his filter is forgettable.
Am I making sense now?
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On March 05 2015 00:55 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:47 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2015 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense. From what I can tell: 1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong 2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia 3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading. If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy? How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia. LOL its this very post that made me town read him i see lots of town change their view based on ppl they think are towny. not sure if mafia would be so open about this to be honest. +as town im often chastised for switching "strong" viws so i know this isnt a hard mafia indicator, tl;dr hes put his cards exactly as what they are with no additional agenda/distraction afterwards. to me thats townie Yeah switching views is something I find to be townie as well, but what I'm trying to understand is how he can consider rayn's case to be convincing and making sense, yet unable to find reasons to see why your mom is mafia. It's fine it he takes one stance or the other, but it seems like he took both stances at the same time. Yeah i get what you are saying, but thats also perhaps more applicable if he was the bandwagon leader (i.e. rayn).
Realistically,
you have an opinion on a player
someone makes a couple of points that you agree with and suddenly your read is challenged.
you re-read and are conflicted.
LIke i don't care if i cop slack for this. but... a couple hours ago i said specifically i would give thoughts on sepulchre later on, cos when i read his filter as requested i was thinking. fuck me this guy is scummy.
BUT i know i also said early game that i liked his first post a lot.. so i wanted to be have a re-read when the mind had a break before publicising that opinion.
sounds like a similar reaction (but in reverse) for tubesock.
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Basically if you know him better Kita, is his town meta normally on the lazy side (think VayneAuthority, etc)?
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On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk.
fuck u guys
contemplating a modkill.
will make a decision in the morning.
night.
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On March 05 2015 00:49 kitaman27 wrote:And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube 
When I get back, I'll try looking into these and seeing if anything changed.
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On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk. fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night.
I should take that into my repertoire as moves to pull to not get shot at night
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On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk. fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night.
Woo why so angry at Rayn?
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lol pride?
RAYN GERIPT MEANIES YOU NO WANT MY INPUT?! <- is how I'd do it
apparently mocsta throws sulky fits
-rolls around the thread-
i'd give input here but honestly I don't know how useful that whole convo was...except maybe about robik. also, damdy looks better to me after some of his posts, so I guess we can keep him around a little longer xP
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On March 05 2015 00:49 kitaman27 wrote:Prioritizing things I find relevant over things you find relevant. About to go into a meeting, but I'll try to fit it in afterwards. And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube
Keirathi I think his town. His play this game reminds me of Slytherin. Like in that game he'd just sort of comment on things both as a point of conversation and because he's interested in them.
Epiphany I also think is town. He attacked me in like the most ludicrous way ever. Plus he seems like he really cares about his reads and he's really opinionated. Like when anyone attacks him, then he's really quick to snap back at them. That's something I see far more out of town than mafia.
Damdred. Kinda tough to tell. Like as of late Damdred's sort of been a bit happier to play town. I remember early on thinking, "Oh this is happy Damdred. That's town." From then I've kinda kept getting those vibes every time he posts. I also like his reasons for thinking OWS might be town.
FF I've kinda ignored ever since Robik townread him. In looking at his filter, it's like wading through shit. The two things that stand out to me are the Kurumi/Chezinu thing and this post:
On March 04 2015 08:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
If koshi was right about there only being 3mls this game, did his modkill bring us one step closer to the edge? (and I'm about to break)
Maybe I've been playing video mafia too much, but I have a hard time thinking that mafia would do something as silly/crazy as the Kurumi/Chez mix up. And the koshi post really made me laugh.
For Tube gimme another hour to two. I need to go back and look at a few things in specific.
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Oh no!!! Not Kosher the Printer Repair Guy!!! It must've been those HR people! Vile snakes! They are supposed to help people, not get them to kill themselves!!! It's probably because of the name. Human Resources. Do you feel like a resource? I don't. I work with HR. People work with HR. HR is everywhere. I have made a grave mistake not reforming this branch of my company. From now on we have a department called People's Republic! Hmm... no, it does not work... It'll clash with Public Relations... Think Chezinu think...
Ah! The meeting! Yes, yes, yes...
Welcome all! 
I am very displeased that our freshest addition had to be terminated today. He passed our tests and filed the forms with flying colours! Many employees he was working with reported suspicious behaviour, which I have also taken into account, as something possibly connected to the T.E.A.M. . His blatant lies about my nature, your Benevolent CEO, and misconduct were enough of a basis to believe his intentions are not the best. After contacting some of my friends, including Lucy and John, we agreed that it was just him being young and naive. I forgive you and am pleased to inform you that skills you possess will surely come in handy in two years from now on. Please apply again! Positive outcome is sure!
As I've told you all, it is very important to have your gun polished! What I didn't say is that you can polish your guns elsewhere cheaper! But wait! There's more! Polishing your gun somewhere else had a chance of the employee just spitting on the gun, then using toilet paper to scrape off what he could, rendering your gun totally useless instead of potentially useless! That's what happened - that's what I told you! The question arises - why would somebody use shady services instead of the trustworthy Corporation? Why would they use such services then to kill one of good employees? Why did they tried to influence our workplace using foreign means? Fufufu... if I only could send people to HR... That reminds me, HR stays. As Human Removal. I have such power to do so and I am going to use it! Haha! Always sunny in CEO's room!
Updated list:
Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam
your mom
Koshi
syllogism
Toadesstern
Foolishness
Sepulchre
Mocsta
IAmRobik
Kurumi
sicklucker
Keirathi
ObiWanShinobi
kitatheman27
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On March 05 2015 00:39 Half the Sky wrote:
In that game (Carol), OWS did jack all. If I had to take him at face value now, he'd be a good lynch, hasn't done too much beyond tone reads early D1. Definitely forgettable, and doesn't really talk/followup on Bats even post-lynch.
What exactly are you expecting, though? Batsnacks has done absolutely nothing of value all game and is playing like a total ghost. I can't follow up on someone that isn't playing.
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I have to admit, I have not read a single post in it's entirety Kurumi has done this game
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On March 05 2015 02:06 Kurumi wrote:Oh no!!! Not Kosher the Printer Repair Guy!!! It must've been those HR people! Vile snakes! They are supposed to help people, not get them to kill themselves!!! It's probably because of the name. Human Resources. Do you feel like a resource? I don't. I work with HR. People work with HR. HR is everywhere. I have made a grave mistake not reforming this branch of my company. From now on we have a department called People's Republic! Hmm... no, it does not work... It'll clash with Public Relations... Think Chezinu think... Ah! The meeting! Yes, yes, yes... Welcome all! I am very displeased that our freshest addition had to be terminated today. He passed our tests and filed the forms with flying colours! Many employees he was working with reported suspicious behaviour, which I have also taken into account, as something possibly connected to the T.E.A.M. . His blatant lies about my nature, your Benevolent CEO, and misconduct were enough of a basis to believe his intentions are not the best. After contacting some of my friends, including Lucy and John, we agreed that it was just him being young and naive. I forgive you and am pleased to inform you that skills you possess will surely come in handy in two years from now on. Please apply again! Positive outcome is sure! As I've told you all, it is very important to have your gun polished! What I didn't say is that you can polish your guns elsewhere cheaper! But wait! There's more! Polishing your gun somewhere else had a chance of the employee just spitting on the gun, then using toilet paper to scrape off what he could, rendering your gun totally useless instead of potentially useless! That's what happened - that's what I told you! The question arises - why would somebody use shady services instead of the trustworthy Corporation? Why would they use such services then to kill one of good employees? Why did they tried to influence our workplace using foreign means? Fufufu... if I only could send people to HR... That reminds me, HR stays. As Human Removal. I have such power to do so and I am going to use it! Haha! Always sunny in CEO's room! Updated list: Chezinu
raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike
HalfTheSky
Alakaslam
your mom
Koshi
syllogism
Toadesstern
Foolishness
Sepulchre
Mocsta
IAmRobik
Kurumi
sicklucker
Keirathi
ObiWanShinobi
kitatheman27
Can you explain your reads please? Because it seems like you got no reasons shown on your reads and would like to know how you got to each read.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 05 2015 01:02 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2015 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kita, geript and Keirathi. Also toad. I am home in 1,5gh. Theen let's talk. fuck u guys contemplating a modkill. will make a decision in the morning. night.
I typically try to stay as positive as possible during a game, but anyone purposely taking a modkill because they don't get their way are making an embarrassment of themselves. It's really selfish to just quit on the rest of the players.
If there is something in particular you need addressed let me know, but drop the attitude please.
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On March 05 2015 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Can you explain your reads please? Because it seems like you got no reasons shown on your reads and would like to know how you got to each read.
Join the club. We've said this how many times?
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I didn't make that list sadly lolol.
geript what did you think of other things I pointed out like sep
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