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kitaman27
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On March 04 2015 23:54 Damdred wrote:
I just read pages 70-77 really disjointed attempt by me. Some of the things I've picked up on others have noticed which is a good sign we are onto something on the people geript asked me to read.
This is a really vague statement.
What are some of the things that you've picked up on, which individuals on geripts list are you referring to, and why?
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Someone please shoot me tonight. totally sick of being ignored.
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kitaman27
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On March 03 2015 10:19 Sepulchre wrote:So, these two posts by Half the Sky are, perhaps intentionally, rather bad play, for obvious reasons. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it is just a bait.
Why do you assume that these statements are a bait? I find it scummy that you call the play bad and then spin it to make it seem like HTS is trying to trap players as if you know she is town or something. Now that it has become apparent that this was not a bait, does your opinion of HTS remain unchanged?
On March 04 2015 06:16 Sepulchre wrote:
I think Raynpelikoneet is the best shot in the long run.
For the record, I'm not in favor of shooting Your Mom, while shooting Koshi is acceptable in my book, but I'm not crazy about it either.
Also, why is that that you are putting effort into your two large posts at the start of the cycle and after the flip, but at the time where your opinion matters most you have a couple of one liners about your shot preference with little attempt to persuade people. You seem very disjointed from the events of the thread. Will this change in the future?
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Anyways, going to bed
On a re-read left with the following:
Content with:
LightningStrike, Tubesock, Half the Sky, Breschke, rsoultin, Toadesstern, kitaman27, geript
Filters too shite to want to read:
Alakslam, Onegu, sicklucker, IAmRobik
Undecided:
Fecalfeast, Damdred, Oatsmaster, sandroba, AT.Epiphany, Kurumi
Naughty Club:
OWS, Sepulchre, Keirathi
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On March 05 2015 00:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 23:54 Damdred wrote:
I just read pages 70-77 really disjointed attempt by me. Some of the things I've picked up on others have noticed which is a good sign we are onto something on the people geript asked me to read. This is a really vague statement. What are some of the things that you've picked up on, which individuals on geripts list are you referring to, and why?
I noticed some people picked up on Sep. I made my post before reading so that was nice, he's probably best shot at scum atm
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hmm batsnacks, i forgot about i think.
can go in undecided.
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On March 05 2015 00:04 Mocsta wrote:
I don't agree with that conclusion.
Aside from the shitty list post, I don't have any issues with LS
What do you make of Sepulchre and OWS early game interactions?
Both are on my naughty list; and both have digs @ each other that disappear in the wind.
Given the bolded, not sure if you misunderstood me. I think LS is town, but I'm scumreading Robik for his approach to LS...unless you disagree with my read on Robik.
Sepulchre first post looked detailed enough and I could follow the logic from her reasoning, even if it was wrong. For example, I don't agree with Sep's conclusion on OWS, since OWS didn't seem to be putting down the play of people pressuring my read. He wasn't disassociating himself. She did put it in context though - a first impressions thing.
I wasn't sure if it was a smurf at the time I evaluated her second post close to EoD last night. I was inclined to scumread her based on the way she followed up on her second post from her first, and that the reads were getting shallower and wasn't a strong read even from a skim of the thread. My problem was her followup, not her initial post and the fact she did jack all for 20-odd hours.
I believe in her followup last night she said she was not a smurf, a legit new player. I looked at her post-D1 (IIRC) followup. Her first post appeared well thought out and honest, but I had a problem with her second post more than I did with her first.
I'm going to take a closer look at her final post and see if anything more conclusive is out of that.
OWS's reaction did not strike me as unusual, it appeared to be a logical reaction after 2-3 people asked me to give a read. Also his sequence of gut reads does not appear unusual to me.
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I'm going to need more time to fully evaluate OWS. I've had two games with him, one of which I replaced out, and I misread him badly in the second game where I outlasted him (which was a large normal, although both of us were blues, so I'm not sure if he was playing different because he was blue).
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kita looks a little better lately. Not to the point that he's omg-he-has-to-be-town so no VE's balls betting on that but he should not be on that list of rayn anymore.
Sandro has done more but I'm not sure I like what he's done... still pretty scummy for me but I'm willing to wait a little more until I'm more certain on it or until he gets shot. If he is indeed town, mafia will take care of him soon enough because he's scary as town while not being particularly scary as mafia. No need to be concerned about him either way right now imo (sry Sandroba  ). So still belongs on that list but not really a priority.
batsnacks belongs on that list.
Breshek... I'm not sure. I really think he's mafia but that'd make no sense with Sandroba being mafia so... meh
I agree with rayn that I don't think LightningStrike is particularly scummy, in fact he looks fairly townish. I have a tendency to think people who defend me are mafia and he did defend me or at least call me town early on alongside HTS but that's all I've got against him. And those two were in Hammertime as host/player so it's actually reasonable to make those statements from their pov imo.
Rayn and Robik are obviously town but won't do shit tomorrow because they're both emo. Let's just hope mafia shoots one of them 
Out of the "vets" that I'm not entirely sure about: Kita / Sandro / Keirathi it's Kita > Keirathi > Sandro, from townish to mafiaesque.
Not sure if I can get a last second post in so take that from me for what it's worth. I obviously have more townreads but they're not worth talking about, unlike Rayn / Robik / Kita for reason being "get off them" for the first two, and my change of stance on the latter one.
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In that game (Carol), OWS did jack all. If I had to take him at face value now, he'd be a good lynch, hasn't done too much beyond tone reads early D1. Definitely forgettable, and doesn't really talk/followup on Bats even post-lynch.
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kitaman27
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On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him.
On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet.
These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense.
From what I can tell:
1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong
2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia
3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong
As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading.
If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy?
How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia.
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kitaman27
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Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
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Kita so I believe it's morning now.
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On March 05 2015 00:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
have not really looked at him yet, just arrived back at my place
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Dodging out for a conference call, but will be back.
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On March 05 2015 00:40 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote:
Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 04:00 Tubesock wrote:
I didn't see a reason for him scumming you at first. But later he does, and lays them out. I read Rayn's case and thought that makes sense. I then reread your filter and the first few pages looking at you and skimming the rest, but then I don't see the scum. But I really think Rayn is town. So, I'm conflicted and unsure. It is why I'm not voting you just yet. These two posts seem scummy in hindsight. It's tough to follow his thought process in a sequence that makes sense. From what I can tell: 1) He reads Your Mom's filter, doesn't see anything wrong 2) He reads rayn's case, thinks it makes sense and is sold that he is mafia 3) He rereads Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and still doesn't see anything wrong As far as I can tell, all three events happened by the time the first post was made since he specifically refers to rereading. If he doesn't think rayn's case works after rereading, why is he still saying that it makes sense? Can you reread Your Mom's filter with rayn's case in mind and think that BOTH rayn's case make sense and Your Mom's filter is not scummy? How does he go from "sold he's mafia" to "don't see the scum" in that twelve minute period when questioned further? I also dislike that he mentions multiple times that a large part of the read is based on his view that rayn is town, rather than finding things that make your mom is mafia. LOL
its this very post that made me town read him
i see lots of town change their view based on ppl they think are towny.
not sure if mafia would be so open about this to be honest.
+as town im often chastised for switching "strong" viws so i know this isnt a hard mafia indicator,
tl;dr hes put his cards exactly as what they are with no additional agenda/distraction afterwards. to me thats townie
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2015 00:44 geript wrote:
Kita so I believe it's morning now.
Prioritizing things I find relevant over things you find relevant. About to go into a meeting, but I'll try to fit it in afterwards.
And to be fair, if I'm looking at your list, you better let me know how you feel about Keirathi, Epiphany, Damdred, Fecal, Tube 
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Maybe add Mocsta to that list too.
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On March 05 2015 00:51 geript wrote:
Maybe add Mocsta to that list too.
yeah i made a typo when i put you in my content group
definitely now int eh naughty club.
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On March 05 2015 00:42 kitaman27 wrote:
Toad where are you at in regards to Tube?
On March 03 2015 10:43 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 08:57 geript wrote:On March 03 2015 08:51 Alakaslam wrote:What if I rando shoot for the  of BH? I'm actually very okay with this. Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 10:00 geript wrote:
I'm not voting to shoot someone. Unless this ear infection turns into Ebola overnight, I will be shooting someone. It's a matter of figuring out who's the best shot. Does the progression from being ok with a random shooting to "I'm not voting to shoot someone....I will be shooting someone." bug anyone but me?
while obviously wrong, the guy is reading the thread enough to remember something like this. slightly townish for me, mafias don't actually read the thread
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