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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 04 2015 09:43 GMT
#1521
On March 04 2015 18:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:33 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?

If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.


yeah that's literally the only reason ^^; I don't know mocsta from adam but he went looking through filters for me and what he came up with mirrored some of my reads


I dont see him making any conclusions from filters other than the bats thing. Either you are mistaken or im blind.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 04 2015 09:45 GMT
#1522
On March 04 2015 18:29 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:24 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:
On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?

if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.

anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game



No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads.

Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie.

I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point.


Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn.

Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?



Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.


I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?


Oops I missed this. You mean Geript is mafia. Other reasonings?


Like if it wasn't for Geript scum reading me I'd have him as another strong town read. Just he is someone I expect to correctly read me.

@Rayn if I came out with a scum read on you at this point what would you think of my alignment? It's the same thing with Geript for me.

Watching league. Do you honestly think that how you've played the game so far has even been reasonably similar to your recent town games?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 09:59 GMT
#1523
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:01 GMT
#1524
On March 04 2015 18:43 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:39 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:33 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?

If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.


yeah that's literally the only reason ^^; I don't know mocsta from adam but he went looking through filters for me and what he came up with mirrored some of my reads


I dont see him making any conclusions from filters other than the bats thing. Either you are mistaken or im blind.

This is correct. I barely commented on them?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:04 GMT
#1525
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:07 GMT
#1526
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Having said that. Between my interchange with Bretsche (around p70??) and now, I think it has been town-dominated conversation.

The atmosphere in those ~7 pages has been in general quite positive. As i said, it feels like working in a team. This is important. Because its quite a contrast from the first 30 pages. Regardless of whether you think I am town or mafia (or samurai enemy) the thread has shifted towards a more discussion/factual place

Have some other thoughts, but gotta make dinner.


rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 04 2015 11:38 GMT
#1527
On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.



Why am I still up? @.@

Uh...I dunnae. How hard is it to look relaxed in like...5 posts? Granted I'm not good at it, but I don't think it's enough to clear him at all, you know?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 04 2015 11:39 GMT
#1528
On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.



I'm stuck on him pushing for a shot at the last minute. Basically, egging on one of the more zealous towns (Hi Rayne!/Robik!). Then he doesn't, like gah it just makes me mad.

When you read it, what were your impressions?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 04 2015 12:29 GMT
#1529
A quick reminder to submit your actions for the device to DarthPunk and myself. You may choose between PRESS, GUARD and DESTROY. At the end of each night, the action with the most votes resolves. Should there be a tie, standard plurality rules apply.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 12:43 GMT
#1530
yoloswag all the way imo
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 04 2015 13:08 GMT
#1531
On March 04 2015 17:18 sicklucker wrote:
who was it that was so sure robik was faking it?

That was me. I still think he faked it, just that he did it for some convoluted town plan. There's just simply one post that shows that it has no mafia motivation to it.
Other than that however, there's just no way someone's that stupid. On top of that he even lied about it being copy&pasted because had he copy&pasted it, that mistake would not have happened... so yes, I'm fairly sure that was a fake and he knows how to type in allcaps to look all dramatic. There's all kinds of bad things you can say about robik but if there's one positive thing you can say about him it's that he knows how to do that.

You later on said that we should lynch me because of my stance on it being fake. Can you explain why? Usually it tends to be mafias that just eat any kind of claim and go with it (unless they know it to be fake like a fake-RB when mafia has no RB), ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A TRUE ONE AS YOU SEEM TO BE ARGUING, because they know it's correct while townies tend to be the one sceptical more often then not.

What would the reason for mafia!anyone be if they know that town!Koshi is indeed not mafia and thus get in the thread to tell people you don't believe him despite knowing that he's town? Furthermore, what would be the reason for mafia!anyone be not just to do that but to go out of his way and call him a stupid townie? Not a mafia who's lying but some townie who did some weird shit for some weird reason and who knows why.
What would the reason for mafia!anyone be if they know that mafiabuddy!Koshi is indeed mafia and thus get in the thread to tell people you don't believe him? That's heat for you as well as your ally.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:21 GMT
#1532
On March 04 2015 20:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.



I'm stuck on him pushing for a shot at the last minute. Basically, egging on one of the more zealous towns (Hi Rayne!/Robik!). Then he doesn't, like gah it just makes me mad.

When you read it, what were your impressions?
The reaction to "100%" is really out of proportion I think.

Most likely, its a comical retort to:
On March 04 2015 07:50 IAmRobik wrote:
the shot is coming up and i'm not 100% sure but i'm 100% shooting
On March 04 2015 07:56 batsnacks wrote:
I am 100% shooting. If you are town you should 100% be trying to beat me.

Impressions wise: I think this has been beaten to death.
I don't see anything that makes me want to lynch batsnacks as a top 2 pick.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2015 13:28 GMT
#1533
Hi guys, hows life.

i havent read the thread, I have no intention of reading the thread, but whoever shot should really but put under heavy sscrutny.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#1534
On March 04 2015 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hi guys, hows life.

i havent read the thread, I have no intention of reading the thread, but whoever shot should really but put under heavy sscrutny.

ummm.. it came from your account?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2015 13:40 GMT
#1535
So I took a quick look at rayn's filter, cant be bothered.

Keirathi's filter is more interesting though.
He kinda pokes around accusing koshi and other people of certain things, but never goes all the way or even extends the convesation past one or 2 posts.

I dont have a shot, what are you talking about?

Yeah so breshke is highly likely to be scum.
From what I read, anyone can shoot and when someone dies, the day esnds.

So its a great opportunity to extend the day, kinda like instant majority.
But nope, breshke shot so fast and ended it.
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#1536
On March 04 2015 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I took a quick look at rayn's filter, cant be bothered.

Keirathi's filter is more interesting though.
He kinda pokes around accusing koshi and other people of certain things, but never goes all the way or even extends the convesation past one or 2 posts.

I dont have a shot, what are you talking about?

Yeah so breshke is highly likely to be scum.
From what I read, anyone can shoot and when someone dies, the day esnds.

So its a great opportunity to extend the day, kinda like instant majority.
But nope, breshke shot so fast and ended it.

Breshke didn't shoot.
*YOU* did.
Check Artanis filter.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 04 2015 13:44 GMT
#1537
On March 04 2015 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I took a quick look at rayn's filter, cant be bothered.

Keirathi's filter is more interesting though.
He kinda pokes around accusing koshi and other people of certain things, but never goes all the way or even extends the convesation past one or 2 posts.

I dont have a shot, what are you talking about?

Yeah so breshke is highly likely to be scum.
From what I read, anyone can shoot and when someone dies, the day esnds.

So its a great opportunity to extend the day, kinda like instant majority.
But nope, breshke shot so fast and ended it.

I just woke up and saw people going after Breshke but he doesn't seem to be playing his Mafia meta in my mind at least but I also want to comment at this post by Oats. Oats it was Rayn who shot Your Mom not Breshke so you can blame Rayn on that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 04 2015 14:22 GMT
#1538
Obiwanshinobi- Obis filter is interesting, i'm going to give him a town lean currently. His calling out HTS to be useful and then going against Geript a bit and doing his own thing in the thread instead of pushing the thread sentiment only makes me think that hes pretty towny. I actually think he has a really good shot at being town actually.


Batsnacks- I think bats is pretty scum to me, hes really side line no batraps have been set. Hes not really pushing any of his own thoughts and seemingly pressured people into taking a early shot or beating him to it when he didn't even try. Lurker scum bats

Sepulchre- Getting major scum vibes from this guy. Activity aside, he has several people that he is suspicious of and posts a bit on but has no real follow up on them in any of his other posts they have just disappeared into the aether, in fact he never mentions them again. If he was suspicious of them during that first post why is it only Rayn that's a detriment to town victory? He also types a decent amount without it saying a lot really. Also something that made me lol is the detriment to town victory it kind of implies that Rayn is town to me.

Onegu- I've only played a few games with Onegu, but hes usually doing things and he just seems more on the sidelines this game without having much of a push or thread prescense. Also he has no scum reads from what I've seen he just has several town reads and treats geript as town even though geript is scum reading him. I think hes probably scum this game.

Oatsmaster- no freaking clue, maybe town hes so ill informed that its just hilarious?

AT.Epiphany
Profile Joined February 2015
India117 Posts
March 04 2015 14:25 GMT
#1539
Hey guys, just popping in briefly, I'm ill and work hasn't been so great, hence the absence. I've read through the thread superficially once, but noticed nothing significant for now. I'm going to sleep and try and post something substantial later when I wake up.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2015 14:26 GMT
#1540
ok well, rayn is super suspiocus as is robik.
Unlikely for both of them to be scum.

What the fuck are you talking about Mocsta?
No gg, No skill.
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