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On March 04 2015 17:49 sicklucker wrote:
Why are you making up lies to make me look bad? I specifically said in thread thats a tiebreaker and why I was about to shoot you over dandred but I just couldnt decide in time.
On March 04 2015 07:47 sicklucker wrote:
I really want to shoot bresh. Also everytime hes roled scum he died to veg on n1 so it will be hilarious.
No reason here.
On March 04 2015 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
I was highly debating between breske and dandred. But I was hesitant and too slow on the draw.
As for me making sense. It happens I had sound logic as to who was scum in that massive christmas game but people kind of got feed up that all my thoughts came through presents even tho the presents did explain why hf and ritoky were mafia.
Also the bolded stinks of bullshit. You were heavily debating it yet none of your thoughts about it made it to the thread other than the one quoted above? That doesn't sound like SL to me.
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sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet
if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule 
bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?
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just the most important ones is perfectly fine
sl, you too, man. usually you're a little more all over the place, and there's so many players to dog right now
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On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?
haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person.
I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?
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On March 04 2015 18:13 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now? haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person. I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?
EBYOP: funny saying he was wrong to have Geript top town and not third
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On March 04 2015 05:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 05:42 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 04 2015 05:37 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kita how do you not know how Koshi plays as town against how he plays scum? Don't recall a mafia koshi game that I participated in off the top of my head aside from game of thrones, which was too long ago to be memorable. Sure I guess, but how can you not see the differences between Carol and now? =/ To apply the meta correctly, his behavior this game would need to reflect his mafia behavior. Him playing differently than a previous town game doesn't suggest that he is mafia, which is why I asked. Since you seem to be familiar, is there a mafia game or two I should be looking at to draw comparisons? Also, based on your post you seem to suggest that you think koshi is mafia. You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy about his inactivity, but haven't mentioned him since. Is he your preferred shot target? Okay, that makes sense to me. Check out Horn of Africa. What was left of Golden Sun and Glory Seeker might also be good checks, though they're both really old. I'd say that Koshi might be my preferred shot but meh. I can't say I'm hyper interested in today's shot specifically because one of the more passionate players (geript, rayn, robik) are probably going to shoot someone asap and I don't have the same kind of conviction they do atm. (Though I read robik's post on shooting batsnacks and I might be inclined to agree with that. Batsnacks behaving like a ghost is more indicative of scum than town in my experiences.)
Okay so I liked the beginning of OWS' filter, and even the post that sepu pointed out just because of how it developed and he had a tone townread on HtS early. This post though is probably one of my favorites, purely on tone, cause I completely felt the way he did in the second-to-last paragraph and honesty like that usually makes me think town.
Plus he goes on to push for a bats shot a few times.
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On March 04 2015 07:17 Damdred wrote:
I kinda like Sl this game...which means he's a good chance of being mafia sadly
Oh well thats confusing
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On March 04 2015 18:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 05:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 04 2015 05:42 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 05:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 04 2015 05:37 kitaman27 wrote:On March 04 2015 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Kita how do you not know how Koshi plays as town against how he plays scum? Don't recall a mafia koshi game that I participated in off the top of my head aside from game of thrones, which was too long ago to be memorable. Sure I guess, but how can you not see the differences between Carol and now? =/ To apply the meta correctly, his behavior this game would need to reflect his mafia behavior. Him playing differently than a previous town game doesn't suggest that he is mafia, which is why I asked. Since you seem to be familiar, is there a mafia game or two I should be looking at to draw comparisons? Also, based on your post you seem to suggest that you think koshi is mafia. You mentioned earlier that you were unhappy about his inactivity, but haven't mentioned him since. Is he your preferred shot target? Okay, that makes sense to me. Check out Horn of Africa. What was left of Golden Sun and Glory Seeker might also be good checks, though they're both really old. I'd say that Koshi might be my preferred shot but meh. I can't say I'm hyper interested in today's shot specifically because one of the more passionate players (geript, rayn, robik) are probably going to shoot someone asap and I don't have the same kind of conviction they do atm. (Though I read robik's post on shooting batsnacks and I might be inclined to agree with that. Batsnacks behaving like a ghost is more indicative of scum than town in my experiences.) Okay so I liked the beginning of OWS' filter, and even the post that sepu pointed out just because of how it developed and he had a tone townread on HtS early. This post though is probably one of my favorites, purely on tone, cause I completely felt the way he did in the second-to-last paragraph and honesty like that usually makes me think town. Plus he goes on to push for a bats shot a few times.
Yes! Like I feel him and I are reading this game with the same pair of eyes. Although, he's not really posting much or pushing anything.
Sadly, in my massive experience of 3 games of mafia, typically if someone had wildly different reads then I did that meant they were town...
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On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town?
Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.
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On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.
I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?
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On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming. I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?
Oops I missed this. You mean Geript is mafia. Other reasonings?
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On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming. I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like?
I could get behind a bats or brkshe lynch. Kita isn't exactly giving me gooey feelings either.
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On March 04 2015 18:13 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now? haha yeah I thought I was being really funny when I said Geript is my third towniest person. I've reread Keirathi like 3 times. I really really like his thought processes and questions of people. But I'm also realizing I need to reread again because I can't remember his reads. maybe it's because they're not listed, I'm assuming he's scumming Sepulchre and Batsnacks? Who is he interested in?
lol that's why I like keir. duh. bats, sepulchre and damdred are the ones I'm ehhhh about too.
So i'm just gonna make a reads list cause it's getting late and at any point of time I might just go to bed cause I'm tired.
Geript, Rayn, Tube, Toad, Slam...tch tch tch most sure of as town
also like Breshke, LS, Robik, Keir, Mocsta this game for reasons that are less solid
lots of ehs and mehs with several other players, but if I had a gun with unlimited bullets, ones I'd feel very comfortable shooting right now cause I think they're probably mafia are:
bats, sepu, damdred
additionally have some issues with
A.T. (his contributions just aren't contributions, and this late in the game I'd expect some), sandroba (forgettable), sicklucker (kinda like some of the points bresh brought up against him, plus my own feels)
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On March 04 2015 18:04 rsoultin wrote:sandroba was another I don't really have a read on yet if you've got thoughts on keir, I'd like to hear them, tube. also lol...in a game of so many players, the difference between top and third town is kinda miniscule bresh, I know you don't often get many scumreads day 1, but I personally don't mind townreads and reasons as much as other players seem to. can I get a spot check on where you're at right now?
internet cut out and i lost my post but
Geript - reasons stated
Tube - Reasons stated plus he is actually giving reads and trying to solve the game which is what some peoples problem with him was
Slam - Was making sense ealry and pushing the thread forward
FF - I liked how after our talk about my tube townread he realized the conversation wasn't really going anywhere and decided to just drop it to talk about other things, that felt really towny.
Rayn - Can't explain this one that well but I liked a lot of the stuff he has been saying
Rsoul - You do this thing where you post what im thinking as im thinking it. You did it in horn aswell but I also think you are kind of like more standoffish as mafia like you get irritated at people a lot more.
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On March 04 2015 18:24 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 18:22 Tubesock wrote:On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming. I kinda relate to the not enough gut churning, but you don't have 1 person you don't like? Oops I missed this. You mean Geript is mafia. Other reasonings?
Like if it wasn't for Geript scum reading me I'd have him as another strong town read. Just he is someone I expect to correctly read me.
@Rayn if I came out with a scum read on you at this point what would you think of my alignment? It's the same thing with Geript for me.
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On March 04 2015 18:20 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 17:38 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2015 17:13 Onegu wrote:On March 04 2015 16:44 rsoultin wrote:
also really not frigging sure what that hts/ows thing was all about. it was like...posts scummy...too scummy to be scum so clearly it was a trap and the most suspicious reaction was ows?
if rayn is scum this game he's fooled me so kudos. robik I think is more likely of the two of them to be scum, and I'm kind of leaning town on him anyway.
anyone got a read on SL? he's kinda feeling towny to me this game, and I'm not sure what to make of it cause usually I want to tunnel his ass so hard lol. does it really feel like him to not have a shot he wants to take, even with koshi mod-killed? I mean, usually he acts like he's the best player in the game No way does scum Robik fake being that upset over a misspelled name. I need to re read/read most of this thread again as I have only kinda skimmed it looking for tone reads. Like when people I know can read me correctly and have always correctly done so in games I have played with them, gets my alignment wrong makes me feel really weird about them even though they otherwise look townie. I have more tone town reads at this point which is weird for me at this point. Nah, kinda agree that robik looks genuinely angry. He's also completely the type of player to not give a shit what anyone else thinks lol...kinda like rayn. Um...can you explain the two bolded points? Is someone reading you wrong who shouldn't be? And the last...I'm just curious if you usually get more scum tone reads, or you're just not taking into account this is like a 26 person game so a lot of the talkers are probably town? Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.
Hmmm...I have a hard time seeing geript as scum. Last time our early game reads were this close we were both town. That said...I could just have terribad reads lol, wouldn't be the first time. I dunnae. Don't let me forget this about geript if he still bugs you later, okay?
Like, I can't really read you well, but I know that inactivity/low activity isn't alignment indicative for you, so you're not topping my scum list now that you're playing a bit more.
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On March 04 2015 18:24 Onegu wrote:Geript has correctly read me in every single game we have played together, yet he is scum reading me when I am town this game. + Show Spoiler +Also normally I'll get scum tones from like half of a player list then focus on the heavier reads. This is why I will sheep a lot as town, I'll get scum tones from players then be ok to vote them if a vet pushes their lynch heavy. This game I'm just not seeing to much that is making my gut need some pepto. Again I haven't read closely at all just skimming.
Messed up the format in my last post. I read the bolded as you scumming Geript. Is there more to this? I fully expect mafia!geript to fool me. Like, I can't see a world where I would think he's mafia from his posting. I'll only believe it when he's still alive D3 or something. How do you read Geript?
I could get behind a bats or brkshe lynch. Kita isn't exactly giving me gooey feelings either.
Bats is the only person I am really willing to lynch. Sicklucker too I suppose. But why Breshke? I'm having trouble because I think we are mind melded. I do agree that Breshke hasn't really done anything. You have something new to add?
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Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?
If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.
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lol I think FF may be town but he's in the doghouse with me
bad FF for calling me scum, bad FF
he really has been very fluid with his reads this game, though, and it may just be bias talking here, but scum don't usually scumread strong towns. i'm not the most adamant/vocal this game but i'm definitely not your classic low-hanging fruit lol
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On March 04 2015 18:33 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?
If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.
yeah that's literally the only reason ^^; I don't know mocsta from adam but he went looking through filters for me and what he came up with mirrored some of my reads
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