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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 21:37 GMT
#2541
Fuck my life. The mechanics, I just don't even.

I'm switching. If sicklucker is town, I seriously am going to hate you all.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:14 GMT
#2571
On March 07 2015 07:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote count
sicklucker (9): Onegu, Sepulchre, geript, Breshke, Alakaslam, sandroba, Alakaslam, kitaman27, Half the Sky, ObiWanShinobi
Sandroba (8): sicklucker, Fecalfeast, Tubesock, AT.Epiphany, Half the Sky, Mocsta, Oatsmaster, LightningStrike, IAmRobik
Onegu (1): Kurumi
Tubesock (1): batsnacks

Not voted (2): Sandroba, Keirathi


Sandroba has two votes. Why isn't he using the second vote to save himself?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:16 GMT
#2574
On March 07 2015 06:37 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 06:27 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - for Breshke, Sandroba IMO looks worse today. Look at the answers he gave to kitaman particularly the scummers on his wagon, for example.

I mean if I were town and my bum is on the line and I'm about to get MLed I'd be at the VERY worst trying to give as much information like a last testament or something more substantial.

And the vote is bloody close too.

I don't understand his behaviour. I honestly don't.


What exactly didn't you like about his answer to kita?

I agree that like as mafia he wouldn't care as much about being lynched because mafia is in a good position and as town he should be doing more but the busy excuse could easily explain this if it is true.

Also i know they can come from mafia but I am a sucker for people that make plans like this


It was his scumreads. Digging it up, it was quite recent. I thought I commented on it too...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:27 GMT
#2582
On March 07 2015 06:37 Breshke wrote:

What exactly didn't you like about his answer to kita?

I agree that like as mafia he wouldn't care as much about being lynched because mafia is in a good position and as town he should be doing more but the busy excuse could easily explain this if it is true.

Also i know they can come from mafia but I am a sucker for people that make plans like this


This Breshke.

On March 07 2015 05:06 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 05:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Furthermore, aside from sick/tube, which players in particular are shady for voting you and why?

Hmm everyone else? LS I've been suspicious since day1, HTS epifany and fecal I didn't do much research on but all seem unremarkable and just popped and and said yeah sandroba for sure scum, so there could be 1 or more in there.


Anyone can say anyone's filter is unremarkable plus he was called out for this as well earlier in the game. And his response for scumreads is pretty much similar to sickluckers' afk/lurkers thing. I realise he's pressured for time today/now, but he didn't do jack all D1.

Even discounting his actions today, I'm not sure why he couldn't have made himself more readable, like a more substantiated read on someone - LS was his one scumread, he didn't like the list post even though others explained his list post was typical and his stream of consciousness thing was typical for LS.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:29 GMT
#2587
On March 07 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 06:37 Half the Sky wrote:
Fuck my life. The mechanics, I just don't even.

I'm switching. If sicklucker is town, I seriously am going to hate you all.

But why not vote Sandro? Clearly I shown some success with Meta in the past on people being Mafia and yet you ignore me this time :O


I'm not considering meta with Sandro. I've never played with him. And you've been wrong with meta in Titanic. You could be wrong here.

There's so such shit to consider, the fucking mechanics, and honestly both SL and sandroba are looking terrible.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:32 GMT
#2594
On March 07 2015 07:31 batsnacks wrote:
SPOOKY SPIRITS

SPOOOOOOOOKY


Why couldn't he have been in the cell?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:37 GMT
#2598
On March 07 2015 06:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I know he didn't follow through, but sandroba claiming to shoot at the start of day one is a high risk policy as scum. sandroba is the type of player willing to make high risk players though which is why I'm back and forth so much.

SL got really worked up after the cop check. I'm wondering if he felt that he would lose straight up against tube which is why he went strong against sandro. The whole "I didn't know about roles in this game so I'm town" thing still bothers me. As town your posts are genuine, but as mafia you can lose track of what you've said earlier.


I also took note of how sicklucker was going insane when I was filter diving him and explaining the methods I was trying to use...when my vote was still on Sandro.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:42 GMT
#2605
On March 07 2015 07:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Did NOT have the time to check wether Artanis votecount is actually correct. I'm assuming it is atm


With all due respect, there's 18m to check...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:51 GMT
#2622
On March 07 2015 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
Tube was townie but so was I how come I got all the votes and he got none?


Because you weren't townie enough compared to Tube? Also for those of us that were struggling, he was 10x more readable than you were.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:53 GMT
#2625
LS, what is your meta read on SL? I am curious to hear...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 22:54 GMT
#2626
Well I'm assuming you did an equiv comparison before making your decision.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:03 GMT
#2641
FUCK.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:04 GMT
#2644
Fuck my life.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:05 GMT
#2645
This is so fucking frustrating. Holy shit, fuck this game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:06 GMT
#2647
On March 07 2015 08:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Sign I thought Sandroba was more Mafia than sicklucker. Going to AFK vote Sandroba next Day Phase. Sheep me Tube and HTS.


Assuming it's the proper lynch mechanic to do so.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:09 GMT
#2651
On March 07 2015 08:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 08:03 Half the Sky wrote:
FUCK.

what the fuck is this bullshit overreaction. if you thought sl was ever flipping mafia there, you're out of your fucking mind.


Why don't you tell that to the others that voted him? Also not the first time I've thrown a fit when this has happened.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:15 GMT
#2656
On March 07 2015 08:11 IAmRobik wrote:
you'er not even throwing a fit. you just said fuck. which is very random because you didn't seem to have a STRONG disposition on him being mafia.


Apparently you've been out of the thread, relatively unaware or simply ignoring how many of us were deliberating on these two for how long? I'm upset (and so is Breshke) after putting in this much work that we mislynched. If you can't understand that, then you're either grossly ignorant or scum trying to find some BS reason to scumread someone.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 06 2015 23:21 GMT
#2658
#2. I've admitted #2 many times in many games as town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 12:18 GMT
#2864
I'm back and (mostly) recovered from the birthday-related festivities. Then again, there'll be more today...

...but not before helping sort this out. Catching up.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 08 2015 13:18 GMT
#2867
Using Kita's list:

LightningStrike - Kita, I've been TRing him the whole time, but it has been a strong meta read. Why do you think he's scum?

batsnacks - agree

Alakaslam - most likely scum at this point

Fecalfeast - I'm going to say town here based on D1, but will need to filter dive again.

Kurumi- ignored calls from LS and myself to explain reads. The townread on LS was particularly suspicious because LS is not TRed easily by people who don't know him.

Sandroba - Upon looking at the vote analysis at this point I'm 50/50 between him and Tube. Tube could have been waiting for us to fuck up the vote on SL given the amount of time we all spent deliberating on the cell vote. Tube's vote was last and came in at 40m prior to EoD, not seconds before, so for him to use the exact vote count to implicate me (or even Kita) is pretty unreasonable considering we could have switched back. It's pretty absurd to think any of us would have been studying the votecount as we were all trying to figure out sicklucker.

If even two of us (Kita/myself/OWS) had switched back after 2220, the vote would have been 8-8 sicklucker, and since sicklucker previously had the lead with Tube's vote he'd been done in anyways.

I'm still TRing Kitaman. If Kita is scum, I will nominate him for individual mafia player of the year, or whatever that award is.

It's also possible that all of us are town and we all just fucked up trying to figure out sicklucker, but someone had to have been taking advantage of the town fuckup, both OWS and I are town...and between Kita and Tube it would have to be Tube.

I completely fell for geript's defence of sandroba and had previously eliminated Tube/Onegu, but seeing how good he is a player, it's also possible he's setting up a sandroba mislynch if sandroba is town. Which also is congruent with the process that if him and Sand are town, then Tube is conf scum.

geript - claimed scum effectively after red check

Sepulchre - looked at filter, was scumreading geript. Double bussing unlikely but could have gotten coached in the scum QT as a new player. Was pretty darn stubborn about not believing geript shouldn't have gotten a vig shot earlier but that filter was sparse and there was no progression on geript whatsoever in the filter. Behaviour now in the latest exchange is suspect, so I'd say likely to be scum.

So that gives me a scum list of:
One of Tube or Sandroba
Bats, Slam, geript, Sepulchre
and a 6th I can't figure out right now, but most likely Kurumi if I had to put my money on something.
Fecalfeast could be it too, but it's a longshot.

Breshke, LS, Kita and Onegu to me are almost certainly town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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