EPTIf you feel the check is false, you should probably be voting sandroba. Otherwise, sick/tube.
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kitaman27
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If you feel the check is false, you should probably be voting sandroba. Otherwise, sick/tube. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 06 2015 11:32 Onegu wrote: Also Keir is most likely town for his vote on me. Makes zero sense for mafia to vote me at this point, they know the green check on me is real as.they know I'm town. Or the 1% chance I'm scum (I'm not), why would a.scum Keir bring attention to me, and a bus would make little.to no sense as if I flipped red at some point him being on me when there was a green check stinks of TMI. I assume you mean kurumi, not keir? | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 06 2015 11:34 batsnacks wrote: I don't know that Sandroba is town and I didn't feel like reading SL's filter. So... it's tubes for me. Ninja should mercy kill this guy because he deserves a break after all the hard work he has done this game. | ||
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kitaman27
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The lynch mechanics are a bit harsh towards town so the benefit of roles being redistributed nightly shouldn't impact this number much. So far we have 1 claimed vig and 1 claimed cop check. That is way below the 5-7 roles one would expect. Even in a worst case scenario where toad and rayn were given roles and there are a couple passive vets or something where the player is not aware, we fall short. I suppose people could be holding their actions, but I don't think that benefits us right now if it is clearing sandroba as a result. sandroba's filter aside, it makes sense that the cop check is legit from a numbers standpoint. As much as I hate to trust a player who is hardly playing the game, I'm likely choosing between sicklucker and tube. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 05 2015 10:28 sicklucker wrote: The cop could be real but its far less likely. The most obvious thing is that im town. So if hes real tube is mafia ill reread his filter at some point Do you find it more likely that we had one blue vig last night in a setup where we should be having at least six? | ||
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kitaman27
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TL Mafia LXIII: 6 mafia 2 3p 10 blues TL Mafia LXIII: 6 mafia 4 blues Storm 2: 5 mafia 2 3p 8 blues TL Mafia LXVIII: 5 mafia 6 blues TL Mafia LXIX: 6 mafia 6 blues Jack of All trades 6 mafia 2 3p 1 blue? | ||
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kitaman27
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On January 28 2015 21:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Those points can be spent buying roles for their faction. Unless of course I'm misinterpreting this statement and it is possible for a town spirit to buy a role for a player outside their faction. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 06 2015 19:43 Mocsta wrote: Has anyone read rsoultin filter to see if she talked abotu a possible ninja? Who cares. Also, based on the fact that a town spirit can buy a mafia player a role, I'm going to assume that sandroba did indeed receive a cop check last night, but that doesn't give us anything about his alignment. Back to the drawing board. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 06 2015 23:53 Onegu wrote: Ugg I just don't see why a scum sandroba checks/fake checks me as green? Like why not red check someone out of the cell? That way it's at least a 2for 1... And then depending on what lynch catgories come up it could be days before his check flips. Letting him live on a cop claim. Just doesn't make sense for a scum in my cell to give me a green check, when one of the most vocal players (Geript) would be pushing for my lynch. For the sake of argument, if sandroba is mafia does it really matter to him who gets lynched out of the three so long as he saves himself and the other three are all town? | ||
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kitaman27
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Sandroba jumps on Mocsta's case against breshke, but the only thing he adds to the case turns out to be a misread. On March 04 2015 06:24 sandroba wrote: However that would be lazy and I'm not feeling particularly lazy right now. After I point out that sandroba is lazy when scum, he goes out of his way to post this, but doesn't do much to show otherwise. Following the your mom flip, he calls the shot awful yet never shared his opinion prior to the shot. He claimed he would be shooting at the 24 hour mark, admits the rayn shot was terrible, but doesn't attempt to make his preferred shot first. Setup balance suggests the cop check is legit, but doesn't say much about his alignment. Sandroba has 6 posts on day two, 5 are about his cop check. Little to no scum hunting efforts, which he blames on availability. Sicklucker Has trouble keeping his story straight when claiming to not know about roles from spirits, yet asking for a gun during day one. His priorities shift pretty dramatically when learning that he is a member of the cell and has to fight for survival. He goes after sandroba pretty hard, with little consideration that tube may be mafia, a player he hadn't even mentioned earlier. He puts a lot of effort in reinforcing the fact that he is obvious town. He references the town role PM which mafia have knowledge of, he references his ignorance about the spirit roles, he brings up that his relationship with tube should be a town tell for us, he mentions several times that he doesn't get lynched as town. His mafia list are the process of elimination cell members and the afks/trolls. He produced a similar list in one of the mafia games I read. I'm eliminating tube right now since he looks a bit better to me than on day one. Maybe I'll be kicking myself postgame. Based on the bullet points above, I'm leaning towards voting sandroba. A lot of the sicklucker points could go either way as town or mafia. I wouldn't be totally shocked if we ran into another one of sandroba's no show town games though. If someone (other than sicklucker) wants to shed light to the above thoughts or point out something I'm not seeing, please share. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 01:30 geript wrote: My experience is that as mafia he does absolutely nothing and waits to be AFK lynched. That's not what I see here. Could you elaborate? I think even sandroba would admit that he has done close to nothing, yet you come to the town conclusion. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 02:12 geript wrote: Like I've never played with Sandro's town game, but I've never seen him recognize contrasting information about people. Whether it's your point on misreading Breshke or look at meta or anything. sandroba's point about Breshke was that Breshke concluded sandroba was mafia. I pointed out that Breshke came to the opposite conclusion. So if I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying that a mafia sandroba would refuse to acknowledge the text that refutes his point? | ||
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kitaman27
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 sandroba I asked you a couple times about your comment about your mom. If you felt it was an awful shot, why didn't you saying anything ahead of time? Also why did you change your mind about deadline shooting if your mom was the target? | ||
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The math would be without replacement so in the 64% range, but that is besides the point ?/QUOTE]And while this is completely irrelevant, the calculation assumes that 1 mafia was randomly selected and the remaining 3 slots were randomly selected from the pool. In reality, you probably want to assume that 4 players were randomized and rerolled until at least one was mafia, which would be a bit different XD | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 05:03 sandroba wrote: I didn't go much into it because I didn't think anyone would actually shoot him but, I did mention it. Not sure what's your point though. Not sure if this is response to me or not, but this is what I'm asking about: On March 04 2015 08:52 sandroba wrote: Rayn I'm torn about right now, his shot was awful Why did you not comment earlier about rayn's arguments if you felt this way? | ||
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kitaman27
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Voting SL. | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 06:28 Half the Sky wrote: I'm not trying to be cynical here, but did you flip a coin or are you going off the copcheck? You know what's funny? I did flip a coin earlier in the day and it told me to vote sandroba. I'm going against fate here XD I'm actually ignoring the cop check here. I think the cop check is legit, but a town spirit can give a role to any faction and I think sandroba probably claims the check as any faction. I know he didn't follow through, but sandroba claiming to shoot at the start of day one is a high risk policy as scum. sandroba is the type of player willing to make high risk players though which is why I'm back and forth so much. SL got really worked up after the cop check. I'm wondering if he felt that he would lose straight up against tube which is why he went strong against sandro. The whole "I didn't know about roles in this game so I'm town" thing still bothers me. As town your posts are genuine, but as mafia you can lose track of what you've said earlier. meh at least the deadline is interesting this cycle | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 06:14 Tubesock wrote: Also, if you understood what he's really saying, then you'd understand what he's really doing and what that really means. Do you feel that it is beneficial not to interpret what "he's really saying" for the rest of us? | ||
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kitaman27
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On March 07 2015 07:12 sicklucker wrote: Last 5 votes on me in order Slam Kita Hts Obi Those are the most likely mafia if my theorys right. Kita might be a wrong town but hes in bad company Rebel souls, deserters we are called Chose a gun and threw away the Son Now these towns, they all know our name 6-gun sound is our claim to fame I can hear them say Bad company And I won't deny Bad, bad company 'Til the day I die, oh, yeah 'Til the day I die | ||
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