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Like don't be ass Rayn. You and me both know your long case are general shit and when you can succinct tldr it it's usually more righter.
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Okay I'll TLDR it for you then
- Rayn read shit cause meta points bad; didn't put it in context of filter
- HTS read shit cause scumming NAI post; didn't reevaluate/put it in context of rest of filter
- Should be townreading koshi if scumreading you and HTS
is that more or else it?
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Like the not town push on Koshi is something I've burned on before.
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Cause I didn't like his reads, either, but I'm not sure how this makes him scum? Couldn't he just be bad? There are a lot of bad players (myself included depending on the game).
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On March 04 2015 02:52 rsoultin wrote:
Okay I'll TLDR it for you then
- Rayn read shit cause meta points bad; didn't put it in context of filter
- HTS read shit cause scumming NAI post; didn't reevaluate/put it in context of rest of filter
- Should be townreading koshi if scumreading you and HTS
is that more or else it?
Let's make it a bit more accurate:
- rayn read shit because took things out of context - i had made posts about who i wanted to lynch, meta read also bad but this is a more minor point
- HtS read shit cause of what rsoultin said.
- Should be townreading Koshi, not giving a townread on Koshi makes no sense in context in this game on this D1 where someone just shoots (as you are supposed to defend your townreads like every-fucking-one says). Otherwise it gives mafia too many options.
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How is 1 different from epiphany though.
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On March 04 2015 02:55 rsoultin wrote:
Cause I didn't like his reads, either, but I'm not sure how this makes him scum? Couldn't he just be bad? There are a lot of bad players (myself included depending on the game).
no. noone can be this bad.
even the worst player on this site cannot make the conclusions your mom has as town.
fact.
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On March 04 2015 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 02:48 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2015 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2015 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:On March 04 2015 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Same question to you Toad.
If you thought i am mafia, and HtS is mafia, is there a world where mafia!rayn is not pushing a lynch on a townie? I don't think he has to be that certain on either of the reads for you to put it as drastically as you did. I have reads that don't match up all the time and I'll still discuss them, mostly stating something along the lines of "so that's what I think, but here's the thing: Those two being mafia together makes no sense whatsoever so I'm wrong on one of those two but no idea which one yet" afterwards (and people lynch me because that's apparently waffling) You just did the same thing when i talked about Breshke/Koshi. You literally did the thing i am implying your mom as town SHOULD have done.The thing here is he is not saying "if i am wrong on one of those". He is stating he is sure HtS is mafia, he is sure i am mafia, because that's the only fucking two things he is talking about in the whole game. If he wasn't sure he would be considering alternatives, but he isn't. Therefore he is sure, and if he is sure, he should consider Koshi town for the reasons i have outlined. It really is that simple. that's because I'm smarter than him  Don't get me wrong, I could get behind a your mom shot I just don't like people exagerating their reads and saying they're 100% certain on something. That's a lie, in 99% of the cases. Most times it's something townish because people want to look confident to get people on their side rather than being wishy-washy but I don't like it nontheless. Look at it from my point of view, my last game I played was a game that HTS and I were both about confirmed town 24 hours in (72 hours), Palmar stopped playing and spammed away "lynch Toad, I am 100% certain he is mafia" and nothing else. In the end people gave in, mostly out of annoyance as well as an unfortunate timeschedule on my part because Dungeons&Dragons on the day the lynch happened so people were annoyed about me not posting. And I flipped town obviously. And that's what I'm saying here. I don't think the chances are anywhere close to being 100% for it to be that way even if it sounds cool to say so. And as I'm saying that towards you the same could be said for him, he could be overselling his confidence while leaking out his true uncertainty about it when he's not paying attention. Still makes him look bad, just not 100% bad. Yeah and look at the second last game i played. I was fucking lynched for making cases on all mafia and the serial killer on D2 and noone bothered to read my post. They just said "you need to prove your innocence if you are town". Can you at least go read my conversation with your mom starting somewhere around p3 in my filter and ACTUALLY READ IT? It is really fucking damning. While i know i do present myself as overconfident often jsut because i think i am the best player in the game always and i have the most chances of lynching mafia, this is a case where i am 100% confident for a REASON and i am not "over-pushing" anything. There is no fucking way your mom is town with the stuff he has put up in this game. I'm not even sure I know what his case is he did on you. I think you're referring to that post when he quoted me and took a jab at you for not explaining all your reads except for one? Just asking to be sure before going into more detail. Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZI don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.
yeah figured. So point by point:
I fully agree with the fact that that's stupid and makes him look bad. You calling someone mafia without backing it up and limiting your time on the things you consider to be most important and thus only explain that is not a mafia trait at all. In fact it shows that you're focussing on what you think is important, while (probably) leaving some things out in the open unexplained for other people to at least see what you're at.
I fully agree with the fact that making it sound like you're unwilling to commit is a stretch.
I did not mind his read on HTS. Yes she was asked to deliver a read but I agree with it looking weird. The correct thing would have been to have some balls and answer that she's not sure from HTS pov imo.
I'm not certain on what to make of that whole "he should be thinking about how his reads relate to each other" yet
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On March 04 2015 02:58 geript wrote:
How is 1 different from epiphany though.
I don't like this kind of posts because it looks like defending something without actually trying to look like you are defending something.
But while you're at it, what did Epiphany take out of context?
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My whole meta.
The fact that I'm trying to find good target.
What I tried to do with approved shooters
I find mom a bit interesting so far bc he seemingly forget my push on HtS.
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lol I probably know what geript is talking about
that argument was hilarious
I also find it funny that epiphany thought that was geript being more of an ass than usual xP
<3 u geript
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On March 03 2015 18:50 your mom wrote:what i wrote about hts still stands and i dont see any reason to switch target. the post about ff looks like it was made to fake contribute, and the answer to the pressure looks like it was made to get rid of pressure. the reasoning for the town tone read on ff is hasty and takes the significance out of her previous post. Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi is mafia because he is uninterested in the game and definitely not even trying to scumhunt.
sandroba is mafia because he is actually really good at this game as town and really bad as mafia and he is bad here. I have in fact explained this read already, if you just happened to be town you would know this because you would actually read your scumreads (my) posts.
Which of those two reads you disagree with? i dont have to disagree with your reads in order to scumread you. hts is my scumread of choice and you are still a secondary matter, but i cant leave the things unsaid that dont add up in your play. i know you well rayn and i know that if you call somebody scum and people dont agree with you it fuels your ambition to the point that you might just leave the game (for a while at least) when they dont listen. that being said, i dont see why i have to discuss your scumreads with you when you called hts mafia and ignored my reasoning for her being it and called me scum for it, and refuse to answer a cordial question right now.
This post I kinda remember reading in catchup from last night. It's funny because the HtS thing I don't really agree with because I like your point on hrs re slam post.
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On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZI don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular.
rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls
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Fwiw. I think I'm add Rayn to my shooters list.
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geript is more of an ass as town than as scum.
but it escalates to the point where he gets himself modkilled as town and not as scum.
And if you have not played much (or at all) with geript you can easily think what this dude did by reading some of his games.
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On March 04 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZI don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular. rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls
I don't understand what you are asking?
That is the basis of my scumread on your mom.
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On March 04 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZI don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular. rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls
that's a really good post from rsoultin btw. First time I read it I too thought that it's more him taking a jab at rayn in spite because I mentioned rayn rather than him. So as a result I didn't read too much into it, which seems to be what rsoultin is implying here.
Rayn even calls it a case on him, considering it to be way more serious. The points raised by your mom in the latter part of that post are crap indeed.
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Well Koshi peaced out and Rayn wants to shoot Your Mom I finding it weird but I like his thing on Your Mom. Rayn when Koshi peace off like he did does it indicate if he's Town or Mafia and why?
Rsoultin thoughts on Damdred, Toad, Rayn, and Your Mom?
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On March 04 2015 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2015 03:06 rsoultin wrote:On March 03 2015 18:18 your mom wrote:On March 03 2015 09:43 Toadesstern wrote:##Shoot: Half the Sky agreed with (I think rayns?) idea that her early post was odd. She continues to make a lot of really, really crappy posts like: On March 03 2015 09:36 Half the Sky wrote:
Which means SL is probably town as well. All in all, nothing like the shining beacon of towniness she was in last game. Leaning pretty heavy mafia right now, not only on lack of towniness but on actually being scummy the way she posts. That being said, can we please change it to just ##vote: XYZI don't want someone to shoot someone because our "vote" and the official shooting phrase are the same thing except for a ':' ... im quite jealous that you attribute hts being called out to rayn, cause he was the fourth in a series of three in which i think i was the first to point out the scummy posting. rayn basically just called her mafia without a given reason and then proceeded to do so with a lot of other people including me, diluting his committment to a mafia hts and giving himself a lot of other options without pushing anyone in particular. rayn, talk to me about this post and how it fits in your narrative, pls I don't understand what you are asking? That is the basis of my scumread on your mom.
I guess for me, and maybe this is just cause I'm looking at things too simply, if you're scum pushing a town (shot/lynch/whatever) that has some traction, why go out of your way to claim responsibility for it?
His stubbornness and reads are bad, but if I'm scum I'll just let others take the heat on the push I started. Maybe that's what makes me bad at scum though lol -flicks geript-
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When is the shot? 5 hours?
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