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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:29 GMT
#1421
On March 04 2015 15:22 rsoultin wrote:
Mocsta, how many people didn't attempt to shoot who actually said that they were going to shoot? The only others who come to mind are geript and sicklucker who both retracted when koshi was modkilled.

Are you being contrary just to be contrary now?
nah I thought all the people that voted for a shot would be fighting to take it
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:30 GMT
#1423
On March 04 2015 15:22 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.

I don't think I want to lynch Breshke.

All great but no reference???

Yeah I can check the database but too hard on a phone
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:33 GMT
#1425
On March 04 2015 15:29 rsoultin wrote:
Give me a mafia, mocsta.

Bats isn't an easy read for me, either, but Breshke isn't mafia, so who is?

yes i get it. 6 ppl are mafia
But not sure yet.

I have a few ppl I like in the game. But there are lots with similar crappy content levels. But it's a crapshoot to call them all out.

Give me someone to filter.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:36 GMT
#1428
On March 04 2015 15:31 rsoultin wrote:
lol, yeah, honestly i'm not certain enough in most of my reads to ever take a shot like that, but players like rayn, robik, geript and sicklucker are all likely to take a shot as town (possibly scum, too) cause they're just that certain when they're certain.

I think it's a bit nuts to think all town players will rush to get their shots off first.

Not worth debating this point further.

If the shot was in my time zone. I would consider taking the shot too mainly cos I don't trust anyone else .

And before anyone says Australia. 7am deadline is too early to reread thread development overnight to reevaluate if required.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:42 GMT
#1435
On March 04 2015 15:35 rsoultin wrote:
Damdred.

He's giving me yuck vibes this game, but I can't pin it down.
I just skimmed this one.

I know what you mean. Feels like something out of a ver analysis.
Going to re-read this and sepulte when I get home.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 06:45 GMT
#1436
By the way. I dunno if guys will agree but this short convo felt like being in a team.

I.e. I got vibes like we trying to help each other out.

And no this isn't buddying. Just me being happy enough that I felt like saying something outloud.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 07:06 GMT
#1447
On March 04 2015 15:57 geript wrote:
The more I look at Batsnacks the more it feels like he's just on the sidelines not doing anything.
hence why I said Maybe not mafia

Either way I skimmed the 4 bresche games.

He definitely posts more as town, bit more open too.
I'm conflicted though because his standard game play is to call people town for loose reasons day1.

I.e. I can half agree he is meta resolved for this early on and will self clear through productivity over the coarse of the game

Fine. Will drop him
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 07:14 GMT
#1455
On March 04 2015 16:11 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 16:06 Mocsta wrote:
On March 04 2015 15:57 geript wrote:
The more I look at Batsnacks the more it feels like he's just on the sidelines not doing anything.
hence why I said Maybe not mafia

Either way I skimmed the 4 bresche games.

He definitely posts more as town, bit more open too.
I'm conflicted though because his standard game play is to call people town for loose reasons day1.

I.e. I can half agree he is meta resolved for this early on and will self clear through productivity over the coarse of the game

Fine. Will drop him

So batsnacks posting from the sidelines makes him maybe not mafia???? What?

Well could be an enemy of the samurai?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:01 GMT
#1524
On March 04 2015 18:43 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 18:39 rsoultin wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:33 Breshke wrote:
Rsoul is the only reason you like mocsta because he actually talked things out with you?

If LS is town then mocsta's read on bats makes little sense. He thinks bats is not mafia for sitting on the sidelines when the shot was between a town (your mom) and LS. Even if LS is mafia i don't see how he comes to the conclusion that bats is not mafia.


yeah that's literally the only reason ^^; I don't know mocsta from adam but he went looking through filters for me and what he came up with mirrored some of my reads


I dont see him making any conclusions from filters other than the bats thing. Either you are mistaken or im blind.

This is correct. I barely commented on them?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:04 GMT
#1525
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 11:07 GMT
#1526
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Having said that. Between my interchange with Bretsche (around p70??) and now, I think it has been town-dominated conversation.

The atmosphere in those ~7 pages has been in general quite positive. As i said, it feels like working in a team. This is important. Because its quite a contrast from the first 30 pages. Regardless of whether you think I am town or mafia (or samurai enemy) the thread has shifted towards a more discussion/factual place

Have some other thoughts, but gotta make dinner.


Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:21 GMT
#1532
On March 04 2015 20:39 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 20:04 Mocsta wrote:
On March 04 2015 18:59 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, yeah, I think I was confusing some of my interaction with keirathi with my interaction with mocsta...don't think his push on you was bad though, Bresh. Lol, you're not exactly the easiest to get a townread on as town specially Day 1.

He should explain that bats post, though. The whole could be a ninja but not scum thing is an odd stance for me.

Its pretty simple.

I got the vibe that he is holding back.
At the same time, when he posts, its quite relaxed.

THATS THE CONNUNDRUM.

Most people that try to post relaxed (as mafia) come across as try-hard. Not Batsnacks.

I get: intentionally not contributing/withholding, but relaxed.

==> Potential samurai enemy or useless town.

I'm giving him benefit of the doubt, and scratching useless town.



I'm stuck on him pushing for a shot at the last minute. Basically, egging on one of the more zealous towns (Hi Rayne!/Robik!). Then he doesn't, like gah it just makes me mad.

When you read it, what were your impressions?
The reaction to "100%" is really out of proportion I think.

Most likely, its a comical retort to:
On March 04 2015 07:50 IAmRobik wrote:
the shot is coming up and i'm not 100% sure but i'm 100% shooting
On March 04 2015 07:56 batsnacks wrote:
I am 100% shooting. If you are town you should 100% be trying to beat me.

Impressions wise: I think this has been beaten to death.
I don't see anything that makes me want to lynch batsnacks as a top 2 pick.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:32 GMT
#1534
On March 04 2015 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hi guys, hows life.

i havent read the thread, I have no intention of reading the thread, but whoever shot should really but put under heavy sscrutny.

ummm.. it came from your account?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#1536
On March 04 2015 22:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I took a quick look at rayn's filter, cant be bothered.

Keirathi's filter is more interesting though.
He kinda pokes around accusing koshi and other people of certain things, but never goes all the way or even extends the convesation past one or 2 posts.

I dont have a shot, what are you talking about?

Yeah so breshke is highly likely to be scum.
From what I read, anyone can shoot and when someone dies, the day esnds.

So its a great opportunity to extend the day, kinda like instant majority.
But nope, breshke shot so fast and ended it.

Breshke didn't shoot.
*YOU* did.
Check Artanis filter.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 14:37 GMT
#1549
Can someone explain the Robik town read to me?

Currently hes in my ignore pile (with people like Slam)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 14:59 GMT
#1558
On March 04 2015 08:56 sandroba wrote:
The only one I heavily lean town on is sepulchre because of his big intro post which I really liked.

@Sandroba

Can you walk me through the appeal of this first post?

I liked his post @ that point in time, mainly because i thought everyone was faffing about, and this appeared to apply some direction.
However, given more posts in his filter and reevaluating after 70 odd pages. i dont understand what there is to like about it?

The only angle I can see is the call out of Rayn (which ties in with your stance on Bresche)???
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 15:04 GMT
#1560
On March 04 2015 23:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Rayn,

Here's Robik's explanation for the LS scumread when I pressed on it late D1:
If I recall right, this read appeared to be out of nowhere, where he was laying back and not playing most of D1 or throwing random names of people to shoot.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2015 06:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Back and catching up.

Robik and Damdred, can either of you explain the reasons for your LS read? Those of us here familiar with his gameplay are a bit confused. Robik why shoot him above all? Or has that since changed?

he's pretending to play. he's not playing


Robik's approach to LightningStrike in Titanic, was town approach, he was clearly tunnelled on LS and pushing LS a decent chunk of the game on posts that LS made. He did this on a perceived scumslip and LS bunched in with others he legitimately thought was scum.

In this read this game, he's simply saying that LS 'isn't playing' and that was close to EoD. The only mention of LS prior is calling him a "fucking twit". His approach doesn't seem well supported or has the direction compared to his approach last game. It looks scummier for sure compared to the approach in Titanic.
I don't agree with that conclusion.
Aside from the shitty list post, I don't have any issues with LS

What do you make of Sepulchre and OWS early game interactions?
Both are on my naughty list; and both have digs @ each other that disappear in the wind.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 15:19 GMT
#1562
Someone please shoot me tonight. totally sick of being ignored.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 15:25 GMT
#1564
Anyways, going to bed

On a re-read left with the following:

Content with:
LightningStrike, Tubesock, Half the Sky, Breschke, rsoultin, Toadesstern, kitaman27, geript


Filters too shite to want to read:
Alakslam, Onegu, sicklucker, IAmRobik

Undecided:
Fecalfeast, Damdred, Oatsmaster, sandroba, AT.Epiphany, Kurumi

Naughty Club:
OWS, Sepulchre, Keirathi
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 04 2015 15:27 GMT
#1566
hmm batsnacks, i forgot about i think.
can go in undecided.
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