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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2015 00:56 GMT
#421
It's kinda funny but I think we should try to kill the 3P on D1.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 00:57 GMT
#422
On March 03 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.


I was actually going to disagree with this read Breshke because earlier he commented that he didn't have any reads in the first 20-odd minutes and now we're almost 2h into the game. He's doing something like that, you'd think maybe he'd have at least one read somewhere in there or some sort of observation on someone in the game.

Another reason to townread hts for me. Taking words right out of my brain

What has tubesack done other than pretend that he's a host? Making and updating a votecount is a really nice way to appear to be helpful while providing no input himself.


I would say what tube has done is more helpful that what any other player has done so far.


Helpful in that it organizes town's thoughts, I agree. I'm not scumreading tubesock, to make that clear. I'm just saying that the people giving him a pass for playing host are misguided.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 00:57 GMT
#423
On March 03 2015 09:53 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:49 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats it like to get tunnel everygame day1. Only I can feel your pain


Well here's the thing, I'm trying to sort out who's doing it for BS reasons, versus who would appear to be misguided. This isn't the first time I'm getting scumread by a load of people in the game when I'm town. The truth of the matter is, not everyone here knows how to read me, and I don't play entirely the same way each time I'm town, especially in a large game.


And how is that going for you?

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On March 03 2015 09:49 rsoultin wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 geript wrote:
I forget which game it was where Koshi ended up getting lynched (maybe shot) because he pretty much did nothing but try to not get lynched. And that's essentially all he's doing here. Spoiler he was mafia.

It's weird, while I'm pretty unsure of Rayn I actually think that the other people I'm ok with taking a shot are:rsoultin, Damdred, Slam. Like maybe your mom too. But those three are definitely town.


Horn of Africa. We were scum together, and you're right; Koshi's opening was very similar to this one.


I don't know if i agree with this from what i remember koshi at least tried to push some stuff he is basically promising to do absolutely nothing this game. Feel like he could genuinely be busy this game


The game's in my profile. If I remember correctly, his very first post he said he wouldn't be doing anything in Horn. He did come in and do things later, but that doesn't change the fact that the openings were very similar Note I'm not voting to shoot him att though, cause I'm not as sure about it as geript is.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 03 2015 00:59 GMT
#424
On March 03 2015 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.


I was actually going to disagree with this read Breshke because earlier he commented that he didn't have any reads in the first 20-odd minutes and now we're almost 2h into the game. He's doing something like that, you'd think maybe he'd have at least one read somewhere in there or some sort of observation on someone in the game.

Another reason to townread hts for me. Taking words right out of my brain

What has tubesack done other than pretend that he's a host? Making and updating a votecount is a really nice way to appear to be helpful while providing no input himself.


I would say what tube has done is more helpful that what any other player has done so far.


Helpful in that it organizes town's thoughts, I agree. I'm not scumreading tubesock, to make that clear. I'm just saying that the people giving him a pass for playing host are misguided.


How am i giving him a pass (i assume im one of these people) I said i read him as town, obviously reads can change if he continues to never give reads but it is highly likely he wont do so.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 00:59 GMT
#425
On March 03 2015 09:53 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:49 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote:
Hts whats it like to get tunnel everygame day1. Only I can feel your pain


Well here's the thing, I'm trying to sort out who's doing it for BS reasons, versus who would appear to be misguided. This isn't the first time I'm getting scumread by a load of people in the game when I'm town. The truth of the matter is, not everyone here knows how to read me, and I don't play entirely the same way each time I'm town, especially in a large game.


And how is that going for you?


Some people I'm able to read/conclude easier than others. Geript, I'm leaning town on, because he used a scum game where he coached me to interpret my opening, where I countered I had a similar approach in another more recent town game. I'm not sure atm if he's looking at my post-Void games, but he's using some reasonable logic, as our last game together was Void. Toad is also going to misread me largely because the game we were playing was IML and only 9 players, so I was more inclined to spam, easier to read, here I'm taking more time to read through everyone who's been posting. This is a similar play to what I did in Carol, another large game, where I took more time to process things.

Damdred on the other hand, his explanation is a little more muddled and his explanation, whilst it could have been townie, is LESS likely to have come from town.

Is it going well? Obviously tough when everyone's scumreading me, but I can get some decent idea of where people are coming from so I can offer some information. I had this same problem in Titanic in my last game, so I'm not sweating. I've been there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 00:59 GMT
#426
On March 03 2015 09:56 geript wrote:
It's kinda funny but I think we should try to kill the 3P on D1.

That is kinda funny. Are you saying this because they add more volatility to the game and could cause a swing? If we shoot the ninja, they absorb the shot and the other ninja kills them removing them from the game.. Meeehhh I'd rather hit scum
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 01:00 GMT
#427
On February 04 2015 08:23 Koshi wrote:
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On February 04 2015 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
I hope we're going to be best friends this game Koshi, purely for your pregame splurge.

I am going to do completely nothing this game till D4.


Third post, actually. So superficially yeah this could be his scumgame for sure. And demanding that whoever shoots him should be lynched is scummy all on it's own.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2015 01:00 GMT
#428
I'm not voting to shoot someone. Unless this ear infection turns into Ebola overnight, I will be shooting someone. It's a matter of figuring out who's the best shot.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 01:00 GMT
#429
On March 03 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.


I was actually going to disagree with this read Breshke because earlier he commented that he didn't have any reads in the first 20-odd minutes and now we're almost 2h into the game. He's doing something like that, you'd think maybe he'd have at least one read somewhere in there or some sort of observation on someone in the game.

Another reason to townread hts for me. Taking words right out of my brain

What has tubesack done other than pretend that he's a host? Making and updating a votecount is a really nice way to appear to be helpful while providing no input himself.


I would say what tube has done is more helpful that what any other player has done so far.


Helpful in that it organizes town's thoughts, I agree. I'm not scumreading tubesock, to make that clear. I'm just saying that the people giving him a pass for playing host are misguided.


How am i giving him a pass (i assume im one of these people) I said i read him as town, obviously reads can change if he continues to never give reads but it is highly likely he wont do so.

Without digging myself into this conversation any further: I'm just adding to hts' sentiment that tubesock shouldn't be townread solely for putting in work.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 03 2015 01:03 GMT
#430
On March 03 2015 09:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:56 geript wrote:
It's kinda funny but I think we should try to kill the 3P on D1.

That is kinda funny. Are you saying this because they add more volatility to the game and could cause a swing? If we shoot the ninja, they absorb the shot and the other ninja kills them removing them from the game.. Meeehhh I'd rather hit scum

No. It's not the volatility. I'm assuming 3P won't die because of vest. That means we get to remove at least 3 KP from the game off the bat in addition to removing 2 people who don't really give a fuck about who they lynch.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 01:03 GMT
#431
On March 03 2015 09:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
I agree that, WIFOM or not, controlling the shot (or attempting to) is town-favored enough that scum is unlikely to push the idea forward. Chaos is a scum team's best friend

Yeah but you have to think of the layers of wifom we're dealing with here.
Chaos is a scum team's best friend unless scum is in a position of influence in the thread. If scum creates the order, they can focus town on itself and keep the spotlight off themselves. A scum team organizing the thread can be just as dangerous as a scum team dismantling the thread.


Perhaps? Lol, you're acting like people are calling him confirmed town and will never revisit his alignment. Unless you think the guy's scum for some reason, why belabor the point?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 01:04 GMT
#432
On March 03 2015 10:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:52 rsoultin wrote:
I agree that, WIFOM or not, controlling the shot (or attempting to) is town-favored enough that scum is unlikely to push the idea forward. Chaos is a scum team's best friend

Yeah but you have to think of the layers of wifom we're dealing with here.
Chaos is a scum team's best friend unless scum is in a position of influence in the thread. If scum creates the order, they can focus town on itself and keep the spotlight off themselves. A scum team organizing the thread can be just as dangerous as a scum team dismantling the thread.


Perhaps? Lol, you're acting like people are calling him confirmed town and will never revisit his alignment. Unless you think the guy's scum for some reason, why belabor the point?

I'm over it, now. You are correct I gragged it out too far.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 03 2015 01:07 GMT
#433
On March 03 2015 10:00 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:59 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:54 Breshke wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:47 Half the Sky wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote:
I also think tube is town not just for being the first to suggest the vote system but for actually compiling the votes and promising to do so again in the future. Feels like too much work for mafia.


I was actually going to disagree with this read Breshke because earlier he commented that he didn't have any reads in the first 20-odd minutes and now we're almost 2h into the game. He's doing something like that, you'd think maybe he'd have at least one read somewhere in there or some sort of observation on someone in the game.

Another reason to townread hts for me. Taking words right out of my brain

What has tubesack done other than pretend that he's a host? Making and updating a votecount is a really nice way to appear to be helpful while providing no input himself.


I would say what tube has done is more helpful that what any other player has done so far.


Helpful in that it organizes town's thoughts, I agree. I'm not scumreading tubesock, to make that clear. I'm just saying that the people giving him a pass for playing host are misguided.


How am i giving him a pass (i assume im one of these people) I said i read him as town, obviously reads can change if he continues to never give reads but it is highly likely he wont do so.

Without digging myself into this conversation any further: I'm just adding to hts' sentiment that tubesock shouldn't be townread solely for putting in work.


Yeah your right this probably isn't worth going into that much anymore.

Townread FF aswell, almost got my POE circle!





Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
March 03 2015 01:07 GMT
#434
On March 03 2015 10:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 09:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 03 2015 09:56 geript wrote:
It's kinda funny but I think we should try to kill the 3P on D1.

That is kinda funny. Are you saying this because they add more volatility to the game and could cause a swing? If we shoot the ninja, they absorb the shot and the other ninja kills them removing them from the game.. Meeehhh I'd rather hit scum

No. It's not the volatility. I'm assuming 3P won't die because of vest. That means we get to remove at least 3 KP from the game off the bat in addition to removing 2 people who don't really give a fuck about who they lynch.

I've been ninja before. They tend to be pro town as surving lynches, when the only way to die is getting lynched gives you a boost to win the game because you can just outlast your opponent and win that way even if you don't figure it out.

I also took 3 mafia bullets on n1 and n2 as a third party ninja by nature of being that townie.

Trying to lynch third party is MASSIVELY anti-town. They're not using their shots to randomely shoot into town and unless we waste a townshot on one of them like today there's no downside to having them alive and let mafia shoot into them.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 03 2015 01:07 GMT
#435
On March 03 2015 10:00 geript wrote:
I'm not voting to shoot someone. Unless this ear infection turns into Ebola overnight, I will be shooting someone. It's a matter of figuring out who's the best shot.

Why you versus any vet?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 01:09 GMT
#436
Hmmmmm

geript I like the way you're thinking, but the problem is execution. I have no clue how to find a ninja in a group of 26 players lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 03 2015 01:10 GMT
#437
I don't think we can find the ninjas reliably and I agree with toad's evaluation
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 03 2015 01:10 GMT
#438
those shuriken are 1-shot?

if they're 1-shot then nah I don't really care about ninja
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 03 2015 01:11 GMT
#439
I'd have to agree with Toad as well.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9696 Posts
March 03 2015 01:11 GMT
#440
On March 03 2015 09:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Onegu defense thyself?

Pah.

Man I can't get people to discern me for the life of me.

How is what I am doing not supremely scummy?



If it is truly random in the way of BH who am I to argue against? But IR TOWN.
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