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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 04 2015 07:30 GMT
#1461
On March 04 2015 16:07 Keirathi wrote:
EBWOP: Also, I'll take a look a Damdred real quick. I don't really remember anything he's done....which I guess is saying something already. But I had him on the townie side earlier.


So something about Damdred is rubbing me a bit wrong, but I can't quite put my finger on it. He was the only "new" person in Slytherin that I had a really strong town read on in Day 1, but something is different this game.

And this post:

On March 04 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:
Your mom didn't look bad from what I read what was the malfunction


But he was here for ~3 hours before the deadline, and didn't try to stop rayn from shooting YM. Rayn had been pushing that shot for hours and hours by that point.

My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 04 2015 07:40 GMT
#1469
On March 04 2015 16:34 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
I honestly can't catch up with how the thread is speeding and interact at the same time I'm not going to try to take the shot I believe because of that. (I'm moderatly caught up)

Geript, RS are really town, kit is as well. Your mom looks ok I think right now, Hts looks better.

I'd shoot oneg or sand I think


-shrugs-

Oh, I missed the YM reference in that post.

But still, that post is 10.5 hours before the deadline. When he comes back to thread 3 hours before the deadline, he does nothing to try to keep YM from getting shot.

Generally if a townie things someone else is town, they at least provide some reasons or try to have a discussion with the people wanting to lynch said person. Or at least try to push someone they do think is mafia instead.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 04 2015 08:10 GMT
#1477
On March 04 2015 16:57 rsoultin wrote:
okay, double-checked on time and context

2.5 hours, not seeing rayn in the thread at the time that damdred was there. damdred may be scum, but I don't think it's for that reason, keir

Oh, for some reason when you quoted that post, it changed the time stamp back to TL time instead of local time. So that post where he said "YM looks okay" or whatever was after the time I was looking at where he came back ot thread.

Stupid TL time stamps fucking with me.

Anyways, I do still think it's weird that his only thoughts on YM were "YM looks okay" then "YM didn't look bad, what was the malfunction" even without time context. Like he gave no reasons for why LM looked "okay" or anything, then was upset when rayn shot him. Except he didn't even really seem to care very much to question rayn about the shot or whatever. Just feels kind of forced.

Maybe I'm just reading too hard into it now since I started talking about it. I'll sleep on it and see what I'm feeling tomorrow.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 05 2015 00:56 GMT
#1908
Just a heads up, I just got home and I have 2 midterms tomorrow. At the very least, I won't be around until much later tonight, but maybe now until I get home tomorrow. I'll try to get in here and catch up before bed, though.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 07 2015 20:03 GMT
#2721
Oh shitshitshit I completely forgot I was in a game.

I have like 60 pages or something to read, but if someone wants to TL;DR that would be great.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 08 2015 06:56 GMT
#2832
On March 08 2015 15:52 Breshke wrote:
If we can make it past this day we are in a fairly good spot. Will get 3 confirmed towns out of it 4 even if onegu cant send himself because unless my maths is wrong mafia 100% fail the mission and just win

How do we get 3 confirmed town out of it?

Does the mission require unanimous success, or just a majority?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 08 2015 21:52 GMT
#2906
Yea, I don't think there's any reason to vote Robik over Onegu. Onegu 99.999999% town (not confirmed, because there is theoretically the possibility of some Big Play[TM], just pretty unlikely). I'd rather have a town Onegu mayor than a 3p with their own win-con to look out for.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 06:42 GMT
#2923
Come on Robik. Are you seriously suggesting that sandroba gave a fake green check on his teammate (which I've NEVER actually seen happen on TL) who then turned around and red checked another teammate in some grand scheme?

That's so far down the wormhole that it's laughable.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 06:47 GMT
#2924
And as far as him being the other ninja....I find that reasonably unlikely too. The way sandro claimed the check (and the subsequent announcement from town spirit) makes it pretty likely that the check was real. There's very little knowledge of what roles are in the game. What if there was a watcher or tracker? Sandro claiming like that could have been cc'd for free basically and traded 0-for-1. And sandro isn't stupid.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 17:46 GMT
#2948
Yo batty, why aren't you voting for Onegu?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 20:33 GMT
#2965
On March 10 2015 05:24 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count
Onegu (8): Onegu, Sepulchre, Tubesock, Breshke, LightningStrike, kitaman27, Keirathi, FecalFeast
batsnacks (1): batsnacks
Alakaslam (1): Alakaslam

Not Voted (2): AT.Epiphany, Kurumi


As I said before, there are 8 town remaining and 5 mafia. If Epi and Kurumi are town it is 6 town vs 5 mafia.

If you're town, you need to vote together or we lose.

If you're mafia, keep doing your thing.

It really doesn't matter that much I think. If he is town and mafia pile on him at the deadline, they still don't control the mission, he does. Granted I have no idea who he would take, so he could throw, but if he just copies onegus list it would probably be fine.

And if he's mafia, it still doesn't matter. No one else is going to vote for him, so even if all mafia switch, there's not enough to control the mission.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 21:07 GMT
#2968
On March 10 2015 06:02 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 05:33 Keirathi wrote:
On March 10 2015 05:24 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 08 2015 23:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count
Onegu (8): Onegu, Sepulchre, Tubesock, Breshke, LightningStrike, kitaman27, Keirathi, FecalFeast
batsnacks (1): batsnacks
Alakaslam (1): Alakaslam

Not Voted (2): AT.Epiphany, Kurumi


As I said before, there are 8 town remaining and 5 mafia. If Epi and Kurumi are town it is 6 town vs 5 mafia.

If you're town, you need to vote together or we lose.

If you're mafia, keep doing your thing.

It really doesn't matter that much I think. If he is town and mafia pile on him at the deadline, they still don't control the mission, he does. Granted I have no idea who he would take, so he could throw, but if he just copies onegus list it would probably be fine.

And if he's mafia, it still doesn't matter. No one else is going to vote for him, so even if all mafia switch, there's not enough to control the mission.


Also since you haven't said really anything all game, especially during the last two day cycles....do you have any scum reads or are we stuck guessing your alignment?

Yea, they just haven't been useful to talk about since I got back.

I'll have a big post about them during the night phase.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 23:30 GMT
#3001
So Onegu, Kita, and tube are all (basically) confirmed town. Should be easy now.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 23:50 GMT
#3007
Meh, that's a pretty unsatisfying end. I would have probably said something after you posted again too in that situation assuming that when you posted again meant it was safe to talk.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 09 2015 23:52 GMT
#3010
On March 10 2015 08:51 Breshke wrote:
I dont think i can count. isnt it 10 people left after onegu midkill and after mafia nightkill its 5-4?

We had a 2 vig kills and a NK.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 00:11 GMT
#3035
Not sure what you're apologizing for HTS. You played to your win-con. Even if you had perfect reads, if you lynch all the mafia but survive, you still lose.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#3040
On March 10 2015 09:12 DarthPunk wrote:
Well I advised Artanis to do a 19-5-2 split if I recall correctly but he over-ruled me and went with 18-6-2 which I personally feel is a bit Imbalanced. You always want the Town - Mafia to be closer to 4:1 than 3:1 I also think I would have removed third parties entirely due to the nature of the game being centered around two factions and their spirits.

Something like 21 - 5 with Factional KP at 2 until the first mafia dies.

I think the Game could also be balanced in the costing of the Powers (increasing KP cost) setting the factional KP at 1 or just removing the Factional KP entirely.

I really liked the concept and I think the game could be tweaked to be more balanced. I would like to hear peoples thoughts.


I don't necessarily have a problem with 3p in this game in general, but 2 shots each just makes the game super swingy in a setup that is already swingy with all the vigs flying around.

I think ninjas could be interesting in some other kind of way. Maybe something like they get a shot that only works on the other ninja, but they have some other abilities to try to weed out the other ninja in some way. As it was, they were just blindly shooting and just hoping they were right (well, except Robik didn't even try to hit the other ninja with his last shot...which seems really strange mechanics-wise in hindsight).
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 00:23 GMT
#3045
On March 10 2015 09:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Lynch mechanics I do agree were mafia favoured, but I'm no balance expert, so I'm not going to go out all criticising.

I'd like to know how the points system worked, it seemed quite snowball, once mafia were on a roll...that was it.

How were hte lynch mechanics mafia favored!?! Everything else that happened in the game might have been, but Resistance and Cell were by far the "worst" lynch mechanics available in the pool for mafia. 2 "list check" mechanics in a row could have have been devastating if it weren't for all the extra KP going around.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 00:24 GMT
#3046
On March 10 2015 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
Town was crap not seeing the claim Sandroba and how it would work for mafia - it was obvious to me.




Who are you and why are you shitting up the post game with these kinds of comments?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
March 10 2015 00:29 GMT
#3053
On March 10 2015 09:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
Like theres no town roles we all got a green font "town" pm obviously mafia didnt know that.


I have to admit I was really influenced by this post on day two. I couldn't imaging a world where that wouldn't be considered cheating and insta-modkilled, but I suppose it would be unfair to mafia to modkill a cell member and it's my fault for trying to read into mod actions a bit too much.

Any chance we could get an action list? Not really clear how the powers were distributed based on the qt.

I'm not really sure what is mod-killable about that? AFAIK, it's always been permissive to claim your role PM as long as you don't copy-paste it in thread. And mafia was given the same role pm, and same sample fake pm.

Unless I'm missing something :o
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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